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Old October 24, 2011, 10:15 AM
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Official threads are annoying, but in way, they are better than having individual threads about players popping up asking/saying the same things every other day.

Can you imagine, how many potential Sunny threads there will be/would be, if he manages to get a 5-7 wicket haul.

Is Sunny our new spin hope?
Sunny, etodin kothai chilo?
Sunny better than Shakib?
Should Sunny replace Razzak in all forms of the game?
Does Sunny look a bit like Aftab Ahmed?

Only one or two of those would probably rate a decent discussion, the rest would just take up space.

Its annoying but a day will come when Official thread will be open for every thing like newspapers, TV chanels etc.
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Old October 24, 2011, 10:38 AM
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Old October 24, 2011, 10:42 AM
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Old October 24, 2011, 10:53 AM
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May not be the case with Bangladesh and debutants, usually those who starts well ends up disappearing. They turn out to be big flop. Those who suck on their first games usually turns into greats. In Bangladesh, they get bashed, and we never see them again...

Anywho, I'll comment on this guy after the Pak series. This doesn't count. But iff this guy can keep that labendish Razzak away from the team, then I'll be more than happy! Finally someone other than Shaq picked up some wickets and didn't leak away runs.
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May not be the case with Bangladesh and debutants, usually those who starts well ends up disappearing. They turn out to be big flop. Those who suck on their first games usually turns into greats. In Bangladesh, they get bashed, and we never see them again...

Anywho, I'll comment on this guy after the Pak series. This doesn't count. But iff this guy can keep that labendish Razzak away from the team, then I'll be more than happy! Finally someone other than Shaq picked up some wickets and didn't leak away runs.
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Old October 24, 2011, 11:05 AM
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আমি আমার মতো বোলিং করতে পারিনি: ইলিয়াস সানি স্পোর্টস করেসপন্ডেন্ট বাংলানিউজটোয়েন্ট ফোর.কম ছবি: বাংলানিউজটোয়েন্ট ফোর.কম চট্টগ্রাম: ফিল্ডিংয়ের আগের দৃশ্যে ক্রিকেটাররা সার বেঁধে দাঁড়িয়ে। প্রধান কোচ স্টুয়ার্ট ল সাজঘর থেকে নেমে এসে নাসির হোসেনের হাতে টেস্ট ক্যাপ তুলে দেন। আপ্লুত নাসির হোসেন। ইলিয়াস সানিকে ক্যাপটা পড়িয়েই দিলেন সাকিব আল হাসান। টেস্ট ক্রিকেটে এটাই হয়। অভিষিক্ত ক্রিকেটারদের হাতে দলের পক্ষ থেকে ক্যাপ তুলে দেওয়ার নিয়ম। প্রতীকি অর্থে মহামূল্যবান এই ক্যাপ। খেলতে খেলতে অনেক ক্যাপইতারা পাবেন কিন্তু এটি ব্যতিক্রম। অভিষেক টেস্টে ক্রিকেটারদের চেষ্টা থাকে ভালো কিছু করে দেখানোর। ইলিয়াস সানি বোলিংয়ে আলো ছড়াচ্ছেন আর নাসির হোসেনব্যাট হাতে মোটামুটি সাইজের একটি ইনিংস খেলেছেন। যদিও সানি বড় সাফল্যের অপেক্ষায়। ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজের যে পাঁচটি উইকেট পড়েছে তার চারটিই সানির দখলে। এটাকে পাঁচ বা ততোধিক উইকেটে নিয়ে যেতেও পারেনবাঁহাতি এই অলরাউন্ডার। সোমবার ১৬ ওভারে ৫৬ রান দিয়ে চার ব্যাটসম্যানকে ফিরিয়েছেন তিনি। উইকেটের তুলনায় রান বেশিদেওয়ায় প্রত্যাশিত বোলিং হয়নি বলে দাবি করছেন সানি। কারণটা তার মুখেই শোনাযাক,“চার উইকেট নিয়ে খুশি কি না ঠিক বলতে পারছি না। আমি আমার মতো বল করতে পারিনি।” তার মতো বলতে উইকেট কিনতে হয়েছে চড়ামূল্যে। তবে ক্যাচ না ফেললে হিসেবটা অন্যরকম হতে পারতো। চতুর্থ দিনের খেলা শেষ হওয়ার আগেই পাঁচ উইকেটের বেশি হয়ে যেতো। যদিও উইকেট হাত ফসকে যাওয়াকে খেলার অবিচ্ছেদ্য অংশ হিসেবে মনে করেন জাতীয় দলের এই ক্রিকেটার,“ক্যাচগ লার কথা বলতে গেলে খেলার অংশই বলতে হবে। মিস হইতেই পারে।” ৫৫টি প্রথম শ্রেণীর ম্যাচের অভিজ্ঞতা নিয়ে টেস্ট খেলার সুযোগ পেয়েছেন সানি। ২৭ বছরে এসে আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেট খেলার সুযোগ পেয়ে বেজায় খুশি,“প্রত্যেক ক্রিকেটারেরই স্বপ্ন থাকে টেস্ট খেলার। যে সময় সাকিব ক্যাপটা পড়িয়েদিচ্ছিলো সেই মুহূর্তটা ভাষায় প্রকাশ করতে পারবোনা। অনেক ভালো লেগেছে।” অভিষেক ম্যাচ খেলতে গিয়েঅনেকে ভরকে গিয়ে নিজেকে মেলেই ধরতে পারেন না। অনেকে আবার বাজিমাত করেন। সাকিব, নাঈমদের অভিজ্ঞতার সামনে বাজিমাতই করতে যাচ্ছেন সানি। আরেক অভিষিক্ত ক্রিকেটার নাসির হোসেন টেস্ট ক্যাচ হাতে পেয়ে আনন্দে ভাসছিলেন। “যখন ক্যাপটা আমাকে দেওয়া হলোতখন কোচকে জড়িয়ে ধরার ইচ্ছে হয়েছিলো। তা তো করা যায় না। এত আনন্দ আগেপাইনি।” আনন্দের মাঝেও চোড়াবালুর মতো লুকিয়ে আছে কষ্ট। নাসির বললেন,“আমি ভালো খেলতে পারিনি। বড় ইনিংস খেলার ইচ্ছে ছিলো। অপরাজিত থাকতে চেয়েছিলাম পারিনি। খারাপ লাগা তো খুব স্বাভাবিক।” বাংলাদেশ সময়: ২০১৭ ঘণ্টা, অক্টোবর ২৪, ২০১১

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Old October 24, 2011, 11:11 AM
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I kind of disagree with my fellow members here.

In my opinion, every player (yound or old, tall or short, handsome or not, talented or not) who is representing our national cricket team (of 11) in any format (TEST, ODI, T20) deserve his own official thread. This is the place where we will discuss (if we wish)his accomplishment, failure, potential, lack of potential, fainess of his selection, his strength, his weakness, tidsbits about him, etc as bangladesh cricket fans.

To me this brings more value to the fan website, then for example, opening three new threads every time some superstar farts, or sneeze.

I understand that some fans are getting annoyed by too many irrelevant threads here. In that case I request them to rethink about their evaluation of what is 'relevent' thread and what is 'irrelevant'. Why we need three new threads for similar information/discussion? I think that's where we need to give more attention.

Opening one official thread to a player, who is now representing us is not irrelvant regardless how much/less he has accomplished so far. To me its a way of recognizing him and welcoming him in the fanbase, the same way a captain welcome a rookie with a cap and handshake before the game.



btw Congratulation Sunny !!!! Hopefully you will continue to shine like a sun.
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Old October 24, 2011, 11:18 AM
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^ Glad he doesn't sound content, he expects more of himself. Good trait to have
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Old October 24, 2011, 11:31 AM
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a thread like this is an insult to Sir Mohammed Ashraful....

jokes apart - wish him all the best. Winning of this Test is completely out of our hands now but lets hope he gets at least another wicket tomorrow.
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Old October 24, 2011, 11:51 AM
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^ Glad he doesn't sound content, he expects more of himself. Good trait to have
Hardly hear that from our players. They are always very satisfied (except Shak)
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What do you guys think - do you think Sunny should be groomed to just play test matches or do you think he should play in all formats? I'm worried that if he does the latter he may not be able to adapt quickly enough and may lose the qualities that make his bowling special now (giving the ball air, rip, etc.)
Playing 4/5 tests in a year won't groom up him as a quality international player. A good spinner should know how to bowl well in all the formats, specially if he is a good turner of the ball.
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I never liked the idea of debuting a player on Test first and then ODI. It's other way around for rest of the world.
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People calling him a star and envisaging him to do records already......only early days people.

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Have you seen Isam's article on Sunny? It's on Cricinfo but I suppose it will only be courteous to allow Isam himself to post it here Good article!

Hopefully, there's something symbolic behind Shakib placing the Test cap on Sunny's head.
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When we are gonna have official threads about BC members.
I think we already have an official thread for BK vai
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Debutant Sunny lights up Bangladesh's day
The Report by Siddhartha Talya

October 24, 2011

As the sun shone after two washed-out days, the debutant left-arm spinner Elias Sunny injected some excitement into an encounter heading for only one result. He came into action after Bangladesh declared, and picked up four wickets on a pitch that's has become highly spin-friendly but the time already lost to rain meant there won't be much to play for barring momentum for the next Test and individual accolades.

The pitch didn't appear to have been affected much by the rain. There was limited movement but some extra bounce for the seamers; the spinners, however, got more assistance from the track than on the first day and the sharp turn was exploited by Sunny and Devendra Bishoo. The Bangladesh batsmen didn't help their cause with some rash strokes while their counterparts were quite scratchy, struggling against the turn and bite. The hosts kept chipping away, even dislodging Shivnarine Chanderpaul just short of a pressure-relieving, fluent half-century, in a contest they'd had the better of.

Sunny would have felt like a victim of some malicious conspiracy when he had two catches dropped off his bowling inside his first three overs. He is slower than his team-mate Shakib Al Hasan and gives the ball a lot more air, and was threatening when he came round the wicket, angling the ball in and getting it to spit away from a good length. He finally had his man, an unconvincing Kirk Edwards, who missed a sweep and was trapped in front, sparking wild celebrations from the debutant.

Sunny, Shakib and Nasir Hossan, the other debutant spinner, were impressive bowling with close-in catchers. They often surprised the batsmen with the extra bounce, either catching the glove or a leading edge, and were unfortunate that neither short leg, silly point nor backward short leg were able to get their hands around those half-chances. But they continued creating opportunities and Sunny stood out. He saw off Darren Bravo, who stabbed at a delivery that landed in the rough to be caught at short leg.

Chanderpaul, seeking to revive West Indies from 52 for 3, put on his more attacking side. A master of unsettling the bowling, whether defending or attacking, he infused life and urgency. Opener Kraigg Brathwaite blocked one end, nervy on occasion - Rubel Hossain bowled him off a no-ball - but mostly solid, while Chanderpaul eased the pressure at the other. He thrashed his first ball, off Sunny, over square leg, picked the gaps for twos and threes and stepped out to Sunny twice in an over to launch him over the long-on boundary.

The pair added 62 for the fourth wicket before Brathwaite poked at a turner from Sunny to offer a bat-pad catch. The innings was rebuilding again with the experienced Samuels at the crease but he lost Chanderpaul, given out caught at slip though replays couldn't conclusively show an inside edge. Sunny had had the last laugh.

The West Indies batting undermined their efforts in the morning session, when Bishoo and Fidel Edwards shared five wickets to peg back the hosts. Despite those wickets, however, West Indies, as on the first day, offered a healthy dose of short-pitched deliveries that handed out some easy runs. The stand-out batsman in the morning was Nasir, who gave the crowd plenty to cheer about with his sprightly batting, which has already earned him two ODI half-centuries. He was especially ruthless against the bad balls, slashing and pulling the seamers and dispatching Bishoo for two fours in a cameo of 35. Joining him to walk away with praise at the end of the day was his fellow debutant.
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The posterboy of journeymen cricketers
Sunny Elias has graduated from the rigours of a nine-year domestic career, to claim the national spotlight
Mohammad Isam
October 24, 2011

The four wickets Elias Sunny picked up on the fourth day of the first Test against West Indies in Chittagong are just reward for a hardworking man who lives in a city - Dhaka - where cricket as a career is on the wane. They've also catapulted him into the spotlight, after nine years on the domestic circuit.

"Everyone was excited," Sunny told ESPNcricinfo, reliving the moment when Shahriar Nafees swung him around after he'd picked up his maiden Test wicket. "They congratulated me and were very happy for me. Every cricketer wants to play Test cricket. When Shakib [Al Hasan] put on the [Bangladesh Test] cap for me, I really loved that moment."

As far as journeyman cricketers go in Bangladesh, Sunny is now the poster boy. In domestic cricket, he has produced all-round performances for Dhaka Premier League clubs, churning out important runs and wickets for Dhaka (his hometown) and Chittagong (his birthplace). From the Surjo Tarun club, where he began playing in 2002, to the now-defunct Sonargaon Cricketers, to Cricket Coaching School and Bangladesh Biman, where he has spent the last two seasons, Sunny has always been among the top wicket-takers (top batsmen, too, on occasions). He has proved to be a value-for-money player, and, more importantly, has lost form on very few occasions.

In first-class cricket as well, Sunny's adaptability with both ball and bat has been his strength. He has not had issues switching between four-day and one-day mode, and has often bowled well under pressure. He looks particularly assured when dishing out deliveries that dip or come into the right-hander. His nine five-fors are split between Chittagong (5) and Dhaka (4), the last three coming in 2010.

He has opened for Chittagong on several occasions. Initially, he was a stop-gap opener, but as he quickly adapted (once again), the divisional side used him at the top with more consistency. His maiden century, though, came down the order for Chittagong, a solid 176. In the last couple of seasons, his form has been outstanding. His Premier League stats are impressive and he has been in great demand among the clubs. For Dhaka, he had struck two centuries within a month.

And so, he got his chance with the national team. The moment Shakib Al Hasan placed that Test cap on his head, his story hit new highs. This was not the clichéd 'dream come true' moment, though, simply because he had given up on playing international cricket a couple of years ago. Back then, Sunny hardly pushed to play for one of Dhaka's giants, Abahani and Mohammedan, as his ambition was stalled after being repeatedly ignored. It was only when he was called up to the Bangladesh A team earlier this year, for the tour of South Africa, that he dared to hope once more.

Sunny also happens to be a popular taped-tennis ball player in Dhaka's neighbourhood tournaments. He began playing cricket with the modified ball at a very early age at the Abahani ground (now the Dhanmondi Cricket Stadium), and then progressed to a cricket ball at the Discovery Cricket Academy.

He played out his nine-year domestic career in five and a half hours of Test cricket on Monday - all the ups and downs that culminated in the wicket of Shivnarine Chanderpaul late on the fourth day in Chittagong. His courage to flight the ball had paid off three times already. Though the veteran, Chanderpaul, had struck him for two sixes and Marlon Samuels for three consecutive boundaries, he still flighted it, and it worked once more in the penultimate over of the day. He is now just a wicket away from becoming only the fourth Bangladesh bowler to take a five-for on Test debut, behind Naimur Rahman, Manjurul Islam and Mahmudullah. He should get there, provided the elements don't conspire against him on Tuesday.
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not necessarily...some players are more test suited.
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Old October 24, 2011, 03:08 PM
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I liked how everyone bearhugged him at the end of the day.
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Old October 24, 2011, 03:31 PM
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not necessarily...some players are more test suited.
In those cases, they don't debut in odi. We bring them in odi after their test success. And when they fail in odi we don't see them in test again.

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Old October 24, 2011, 03:36 PM
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Congrats Elias "Kanchon" Sunny!!

Sunny er bowling action mone hochche Shakib ar Razzak er cheye onekta different.
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Old October 24, 2011, 03:44 PM
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^^^ his action is most similar to Graeme Swann's, imo.
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Bangladesh is a stronger team with Shakib al Hasan.
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Old October 24, 2011, 03:45 PM
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I don't like any of Sunny, Nasir, or Naeem's run up. Nothing special, nothing a kid would try to copy. After Rafique, Shaq got the best run up.

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