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Old July 12, 2015, 10:31 PM
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I still think he should be rotated with Taskin. Will get the best out of both of them.

I want 3 pacers, and spinners. Thank fully we have batsme who bowl more than jandy spin and Shakib. So all the three specialist bowlers can be pacers.

Mash,Mustafizur and Rubel/Taskin.

When Mash retires or is hurt, Rubel and Taskin can play together.

In the mean time, try to give Al-Amin a few chances too.
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Old July 12, 2015, 11:31 PM
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^ Can you actually name one spinner who is a better option than Rubel/Taskin? Or could do something that Riyad+Nasir+Sabbir combo can't do? We should go by the talents, not by players roles. At this point we don't have a single spinner who is either better than any of our fast bowlers as a bowler or can actually spin the ball anymore than the part-timers.
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Old July 13, 2015, 05:29 AM
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^ Can you actually name one spinner who is a better option than Rubel/Taskin? Or could do something that Riyad+Nasir+Sabbir combo can't do? We should go by the talents, not by players roles. At this point we don't have a single spinner who is either better than any of our fast bowlers as a bowler or can actually spin the ball anymore than the part-timers.
Spot on. Pick your best players. We have numerous SLAs who are no better than nasir/riyad/shakib.
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Old July 13, 2015, 05:48 AM
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I like how our sports writer extraordinaire covers it tamely by saying Rubel "promises more"

Are you ffin shiii ---in me??? Hashim Amla can easily take away the gave from any goddamn opponents. He has a frikkin 300 in Test. He has several high scoring centuries. He has a great average and all Rubel gets is a cookie to "promise more".

Just for that priceless wicket he should've been awarded MoM. Soumya was brutal but not elegant and played chancey innings.
I agree, that was an absolute game changer.
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Old July 13, 2015, 07:09 AM
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Hey Rubel, why u no play like this in Tests ?
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Old July 13, 2015, 08:34 AM
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I like how our sports writer extraordinaire covers it tamely by saying Rubel "promises more"

Are you ffin shiii ---in me??? Hashim Amla can easily take away the gave from any goddamn opponents. He has a frikkin 300 in Test. He has several high scoring centuries. He has a great average and all Rubel gets is a cookie to "promise more".

Just for that priceless wicket he should've been awarded MoM. Soumya was brutal but not elegant and played chancey innings.
Yeah I don't know which match Isam was watching. He makes some strange comments in his article.

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Rubel did not strive for pace today. He bowled well within himself...
Really? His fastest was 143 and average was over 140. He consistently bowled over 140. Rabada the fastest SA pacer on show bowled at around the same pace. In general in BD, bowling speeds appear to go down. I don't know if it is a speed gun issue or a heat issue.

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At the game, Rubel came on after ten overs and immediately made an impact. His seventh delivery got through Hashim Amla's defenses. It wasn't too quick but it appeared to have taken the batsman by surprise. Rubel had nipped the ball back, with that old natural slingy action, and made Amla play across the line.
And I don't like how he underplays Amla's wicket either. It was a sensational delivery. Amla was comprehensively beaten not 'taken by surprise'.
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Old July 13, 2015, 01:39 PM
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Isam has the cracindovities.

He is also same as Moni, ShamCha and Anisur. Most of "his" write-ups with regards to BD successes are severely watered down and lacks zeal or enthusiasm. Just wonder why!
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Old July 13, 2015, 01:52 PM
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Are you seriously dinging Isam? The one guy who has single-handedly put a Bangladeshi perspective on CricIndo? Do you guys understand how editorial processes work????? You do know that Isam submits a piece and then his editors tweak it right?

On topic, Rubel's ball to Amla was a perfect delivery. It swerved in late and hit the top of off. However Amla's shot selection was wrong too. Think of it this way. Liton got himself out to Rabada. Amla got out to Rubel.
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Old July 13, 2015, 01:58 PM
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RazabQ, if the above was intended at me then I request you to re-read my post but VERY closely this time. Thanks.
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Old July 13, 2015, 02:06 PM
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BCF, I wasn't addressing you per se. Others were also critiquing Dizzy. However, you appear to accuse the man: "Isam has the cracindovities." I do believe that was uncalled for.
Perhaps I have misread that - if so, I apologize.
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Old July 13, 2015, 02:08 PM
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Are you seriously dinging Isam? The one guy who has single-handedly put a Bangladeshi perspective on CricIndo? Do you guys understand how editorial processes work????? You do know that Isam submits a piece and then his editors tweak it right?

On topic, Rubel's ball to Amla was a perfect delivery. It swerved in late and hit the top of off. However Amla's shot selection was wrong too. Think of it this way. Liton got himself out to Rabada. Amla got out to Rubel.
agree with you bro.

He has been the lone ranger for Bangladesh.
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Old July 13, 2015, 02:27 PM
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Isam is not beyond reproach. He is not God. This is not the first time he has watered down Rubel's efforts. If there is seriously something that we are not aware of such as Rubel's character/vice/dope what not (speculating here) then that is a different issue and needs to be be brought to attention asap.

But to take the credit away from him or underplay it (as if this the second coming of some god knows "neutrality") is pure childish.

He does have a rapsheet of writing our triumphs without any zeal or enthusiasm. And the flip side doesn't necessarily mean "fluff piece" or "passion". And just because he is the "lone ranger" doesn't give him monopoly on the be-all end-all views on cricket. There are six billion of us in the world.

And RazabQ on a different note, I also don't appreciate this slamming of kdpp. You are a moderator and do remember that while you are doing your job we are guests here. Because of us fans this forum is "tiktese". To signup to a forum and to hear slamming is plain rude just because one has upmanship because we are Bangali. Had this was a heterogeneous forum you wouldn't have said it. It is as unprofessional as Shamim addressing a player as Tumi so be it it is out of "affection"

I am done here.
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Old July 13, 2015, 02:56 PM
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A perfect storm in a tea cup. Very entertaining -even in the month of Ramadan.

RazabQ, Isam singlehandedly upholding the BD perspective is a bit of a hyperbole? Isam became a little too Dizzy after his cracindo appointment. I don't make this allegation in a whim or a fancy. Hence, the cracindovities. If "editorial processes" reduces his articles into obituaries then he has the choice of quitting -right?

Zeeshan, I don't know what beef you might have with Dizzy but you make some good points. But, I think you're a little OTT with RazabQ's using of kdpp on particular threads or posts. Infact, if I was a mod, the KDPP thread in question would never have seen the light of the day. Jaihok, I didn't expect such beroshik attitude from a poster formerly known as the rosh raj Gopal bhar. Additionally, don't forget RazabQ is also a regular member of this from beside being a mod. He should be allowed to be "himself" at times -no?

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Old July 13, 2015, 03:05 PM
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Zeeshan and his hate for anyone who doesn't hyperbole the crap out of something.

"Rubel's delivery to Amla was a ball for the century. The ball left Rubel's right hand and crashed onto Amla's off stumps like Lady Diane's car into the pillars of Pont de 'Alma."

I tried.
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Old July 13, 2015, 03:19 PM
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LOL @ Dil. I do believe you've got it. Zee - roja dhorse? Think of the Iftaar that awaits you
And let's be honest, Rubel is a good seamer but a 19-year old has upstaged him. He is yet to be a force in Tests. In BD context he's godsend because he is one of 3-4 players in BD who can hit 90MPH with some level of control. But that doesn't mean we have to get into hyperbole.

And as far as Isam. I think of the time when S Rajesh would be writing about us. Thanks, I'll take Isam's watered down articles over that cockroach any day.

And yes, as BCF has observed, I'm merely responding as a regular member. When I'm speaking as a Mod or expressing an "official" position I usually preface with "As mod"
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Old July 13, 2015, 03:21 PM
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Oh and one last thing Zee. To those who know me IRL and even here, they would say the one thing I am is consistent. Perceived variety of the audience (or lack thereof) will typically have no bearing on my position on a topic.

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Old July 13, 2015, 03:52 PM
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Lol...that was really a good one Dilscoop. A little dark but funny....well not really funny but you know..
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Old July 30, 2015, 02:01 PM
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Dale Steyn on Mitchell Johnson:
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"Mitch is a scary bowler," Steyn said. "I think he is one of those guys who are never going to be a line and length bowler. His captain is never going to ask him to run in and just hit a line and length. He's going to bowl fast, he's going to scare you and he's going to get you out like that. He's going to make you make a mistake because of his pace.
And that's how Rubel should be treated. And that's how he IS treated under Mash. Mash knows more than anyone that Rubel is not a line and length bowler. Asking him to slow down and bowl to a set field won't help his bowling. That's why under Mash we see him bowling well over 145. You can hear Mash encourage him to bowl faster on the mic. Under Mash's captacy he's taken his bowling to the next step. Just need his other captains to run him similarly.
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Old July 30, 2015, 02:03 PM
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Totally agree Dillu
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Old July 30, 2015, 02:10 PM
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And that's how Rubel should be treated. And that's how he IS treated under Mash. Mash knows more than anyone that Rubel is not a line and length bowler. Asking him to slow down and bowl to a set field won't help his bowling. That's why under Mash we see him bowling well over 145. You can hear Mash encourage him to bowl faster on the mic. Under Mash's captacy he's taken his bowling to the next step. Just need his other captains to run him similarly.
Good comparison Dilly, Every bowler is a weapon. Every bowler is unique. Every bowler is confident enough when he knows that he's bowling to his strengths
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