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View Poll Results: Who is our most dependable batsman when the team is in trouble?
Tamim 3 5.36%
Mushfiqur 12 21.43%
Shakib 34 60.71%
Naeem 1 1.79%
Riyadh 1 1.79%
Hom 0 0%
Nasir 5 8.93%
Someone else (please mention in the post) 0 0%
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Old November 27, 2011, 12:14 AM
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Default Our most dependable batsman

When we in dire straits and without one batsman standing up, all seems lost, who would you prefer in the crease? The following are my tentative choices.
  1. Tamim has shown that he is capable of playing a responsible inning. But, he can throw his wicket even after playing such an inning! Not a good rotator of strike.
  2. Mushfiqur can really hold an inning. He can accelerate really well after being in the crease for a while. Not a good rotator of strike.
  3. Shakib is our best good rotator of strike and can hit big when he wishes. Prone to gift wicket by playing cheeky shots.
  4. Naeem can hold an inning also. But, not a good rotator of strike. Also cannot accelerate well when needed. Has to be #3 or #4.
  5. Riyad, when on, is an excellent batsman. Used to be a good rotator of strike, but seems to have lost the capability. Has to be #3 or #4.
  6. Hom showed flashes in the beginning, but seems lost these days. Hopefully, he will be back in form and compete for a place in the team.
  7. Nasir is an explosive batsman, but has shown excellent temperament in pacing the inning. Pretty good rotator of strike. Should bat at 6 or 7.
My most dependable batsman is Shakib, narrowly edging out Tamim and Mushfiqur.
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Old November 27, 2011, 12:23 AM
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Not sure if Hom belongs in this list. The next tier perhaps.
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Old November 27, 2011, 12:31 AM
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Not sure if Hom belongs in this list. The next tier perhaps.
Agree. Both Hom and Nasir will have to prove their mettle against tough competition over a long time. But, Nasir is a good spinner and he looked to have a good head.
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Old November 27, 2011, 12:36 AM
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On overwhelming past evidence, Shakib. (Anyone remember him coming down to bat against Pakistan in Pakistan when our score was 17-3 and he scored a century with the tail??)
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Old November 27, 2011, 12:37 AM
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Shakib without any doubt..

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Old November 27, 2011, 02:10 AM
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The results speaks for itself.
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Old November 27, 2011, 02:15 AM
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We depend on Tamim a lot more these days. Shakib is 2nd on that list. But realistically Rahim is our most dependable bat on the current line up. I trust him to take us over the hurdle. Tamim and Shakib are both reckless. But they are more capable

Realistically, realistically we still like to depend on Ash, we want to at least(!)
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Old November 27, 2011, 02:16 AM
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Shakib.

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arrrrggghhhh !!!!!
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Old November 27, 2011, 03:04 AM
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arrrrggghhhh !!!!!
Oi. Rather then spending the time cutting and pasting and typing arrrrrrrrggght, perhaps you could gave offered an opinion, even if brief, as to why Shakib is your answer?
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Old November 27, 2011, 03:09 AM
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Shakib and Mushfiq for me, Shakib ahead atm.

Definitely not Tamim - he is a great frontrunner, and very good at setting us up, but backs to the wall, he isn't the one I'd put my money on to save us. Way too attacking a player for that to happen right now(though he has shown in the last six months, he can be more watchful when he concentrates).

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Old November 27, 2011, 03:39 AM
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Oi. Rather then spending the time cutting and pasting and typing arrrrrrrrggght, perhaps you could gave offered an opinion, even if brief, as to why Shakib is your answer?
Sorry I was too tired and lazy to type anything


Anyway, despite recent criticism of playing too many shots too often, Shakib still leads the board with the highest average score in the team. He has been scoring runs in almost every match with a healthy SR. He has always come good with bat when team was in disarray. Even though, Shakib gets the award of 'Most Dependable Batsman' in Bangladesh, i think Mushy is not too far away looking at his recent forms.

Test

Shakib
In 2009, 3 matches - avg 41.00
In 2010, 7 matches- avg. 33.14
In 2011, 3 matches- avg. 48.40

Mushy
In 2009, 3 matches - avg 32.83
In 2010, 7 matches- avg. 35.46
In 2011, 3 matches- avg. 38.80

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Shakib
In 2009, 19 matches- avg 51.61
In 2010, 27 matches- avg 32.79
In 2011, 17 matches- avg 36.14

Mushy
In 2009, 19 matches - avg 29.76
In 2010, 25 matches- avg. 25.61
In 2011, 17 matches- avg. 39.61
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^^ Shakib was an absolute beast in 2009! (Even if we did play a weak Zim and WI then )
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Old November 27, 2011, 04:53 AM
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different ways of looking at it. no doubt tamim, shakib and rahim are our 3 most dependalbe but which one is THE most dependable?

well obivously looking at averages then tamim is the dependable one in tests and shakib in one-dayers.

rahim although hasn't got great stats he's been pretty good the last couple of years and especially recently he's played some solid innings when others haven't, one thing he needs to work on is scoring the tons not just half tons.

tamim hasn't been in great form lately.....

shakib tends to plaly a big or really solid innings when we really need it. that innings might not be a match winning one but i think he tends to stand up more often than others when we need someone to stand up.

so i'd say shakib is the most dependable probably in both one-dayers and test matches.

rahim is building his cause....tamim still has that terrific test average though but the thing is since he is an opener his innings aren't seen as much to be vital or dependable as shakib or rahim because they come in more often when the chips are down, tamim comes in at the start.
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Old November 27, 2011, 04:54 AM
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Its either Mushy or Shak.. While Shak is an aggressive batsman but when it comes to temperament Mushy knockout Shak by big time
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Old November 27, 2011, 05:26 AM
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Often after a top order collapse, guys like Shakib and Mushy have to come down the order and salvage some pride.

They would have to be our most dependable.
Between them, Shakib would be the easy pick.
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Mushy then Shakib...used to be Mahmudullah before...
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Old November 27, 2011, 07:27 AM
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Mushy is there too.
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Old November 27, 2011, 07:47 AM
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shakib. mushy has been doing it too recently
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I think It is Shakib.
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Old November 27, 2011, 02:34 PM
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I have noticed that when Tamim is not playing the team does better. I think mentally the others rely on Tamim, and when he is not there they pick up the extra work load.

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Sakib,Tamim, Mushfiq these three are the most dependable batsmen. Among them Mushfiq is improving significantly day by day.

So Mushfiq shows most dependable.
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Old November 30, 2011, 09:57 PM
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For me the best way to judge the most dependable batsman is to see in what situation he is coming to bat and how he is contributing. I consider Tamim as the most talented rather than the most dependable. Then the contest comes down to Mushy and Shakib.

Now let's compare the performances of Shakib and Mushy:

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Shakib

2008: BD vs NZ- comes in when BD 45/5 and scores 41 not out
2008: BD vs NZ- comes in when BD 71/4 Sand scores 71
2008 : BD vs NZ (2nd test)- comes in when BD 44/5 and scores 49 – Match Drawn
2008: BD vs SL- comes in when BD 180/5 and scores 96

2009: BD vs WI - comes in when BD 67/4 and scores 96 not out and BD wins

2010: BD vs NZ - comes in when BD 162/4 and scores 87
2010: BD vs Eng- comes in when BD 175/4 and scores 49 and in the 2nd innings when BD 130/4 Shakib comes in and scores 96

2011: BD vs Zim - comes in when BD 136/4 and scores 68
2011: BD vs WI - comes in when BD 46/4 and scores 73

Mushy

2007: BD vs SL- comes in when BD 79/5 and scores 80

2008: BD vs NZ- comes in when BD 44/4 and scores 79
2008: BD vs SA- comes in when BD 47/4 and scores 48
2008: BD vs SA - comes in when BD 160/6 and scores 65
2008: BD vs SL - comes in when BD 291/6 and scores 61
2008: BD vs SL - comes in when BD 42/4 and scores 49

2010: BD vs Ind : comes in when BD 89/5 and scores 44 and in 2nd innings he came when BD 132/5 and scores 101
2010: BD vs Eng : comes in when BD 159/6 and scores 79 and in 2nd innings he came when BD 110/5 and scores 95

2011: BD vs WI : comes in when BD 110/2 and scores 68 and Match drawn
2011: BD vs WI : comes in when BD 122/3 and scores 69


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Shakib

2006: BD vs SL: comes in when BD 52/2 and scores 67 not out

2007: BD vs Ind : comes in when BD 79/3 and scores 53 and BD wins
2007: BD vs Eng: comes in when BD 79/3 and scores 57 not out
2007: BD vs Ind: comes in when BD 80/2 and scores 50

2008: BD vs SA : comes in when BD 18/3 and scores 52
2008: BD vs Pak : comes in when BD 125/3 and scores 75
2008: BD vs Pak : comes in when BD 10/3 and scores 108
2008: BD vs SA : comes in when BD 76/4 and scores 51

2009: BD vs Zim : comes in when BD 31/3 and scores 52
2009: BD vs SL : comes in when BD 12/3 and scores 92 not out and BD wins
2009: BD vs WI : comes in when BD 97/3 and scores 54 and BD wins
2009: BD vs WI: comes in when BD 113/3 and scores 65 and BD wins
2009: BD vs Zim : comes in when BD 108/2 and scores 104 and BD wins
2009: BD vs Zim : comes in when BD 56/3 and scores 105 not out and BD wins

2010: BD vs SL : comes in when BD 87/3 and scores 47
2010: BD vs Ind : comes in when BD 60/3 and scores 85
2010: BD vs NZ: comes in when BD 100/3 and scores 58 and BD wins
2010: BD vs NZ : comes in when BD 44/3 and scores 106 and BD wins
2010: BD vs Zim : comes in when BD 81/3 and scores 63
2010: BD vs Zim : comes in when BD 46/3 and scores 73 and BD wins

2011: BD vs Ind : comes in when BD 129/2 and scores 55
2011: BD vs Aus: comes in when BD 49/3 and scores 51
2011: BD vs Zim : comes in when BD 33/4 and scores 53
2011: BD vs Zim : comes in when BD 79/3 and scores 79 and BD wins
2011: BD vs WI : comes in when BD 122/3 and scores 67 not out

Just look how many times he has bailed us out and not to mention he was contributing with ball at the same time.

Now in Mushy's case, he was extremely inconsistent until this year and he was our Golden Boy for consistantly scoring golden duck. Anyways let's see how many times he has delivered under pressure:

Mushy


2007: BD vs Ind : comes in when BD 24/1 and scores 56 not out and BD wins

2008: BD vs SL : comes in when BD 48/3 and scores 44

2009: BD vs Zim pens with Tamim and scores 98 and BD wins
2009: BD vs Zim : comes in when BD 56/4 and scores 56

2010: BD vs NZ : comes in when BD 23/4 and scores 86
2010: BD vs Eng : comes in when BD 56/3 and scores 76
2010: BD vs Eng : comes in when BD 40/2 and scores 40
2010: BD vs Zim: omes in when BD 71/3 and scores 63

2011: BD vs Aus : comes in when BD 116/4 and scores 44 not out
2011: BD vs Aus : comes in when BD 65/4 and scores 86 not out
2011: BD vs Zim : comes in when BD 43/5 and scores 59
2011: BD vs Zim : omes in when BD 66/2 and scores 101
BD vs WI : comes in when 1/2 and scores 69

So Mushy's stats for ODI are nothing outstanding compared to Shakib’s. Also Shakib has played way too many match winning knocks than any other player in the team. So Shakib is the clear winner here.

But Mushy, Tamim and Riyad are excellent in the Test. Also I have noticed that Mushy did well as an opener and number 3 batsman. I would love to see Tamim and Mushy openning and Shakib playing at number 4. Nasir can take Shakib's spot, Riyad at 6 and we get a solid batting lineup except the number 3 spot. I don't see anyone from the current squad being successfu in that spot. May be it's time to give chance to the younger talents like Mohminul.
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