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Old November 21, 2016, 03:57 PM
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Default Why is Mominul a test ONLY batsman?

Mominul has all the shots in his hands but still we tag him as a test specialist. He is actually very good t20 batsman and much better than t20 specialist tamim, sarker, mithun and donald hom. Only thing ,we didn't have believe on him. Furthermore how many test matches bd is playing per year. I don't think this is enough for momin to gain confidence and motivation. English team has rated him very highly. This is the time to give him a chance in other formats and cut down true passangers like hom, sohan , sarker etc.

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Old November 21, 2016, 04:19 PM
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If he gets playing like this. He has a very good case to be selected for ODI and is, one of the options for #3 along with Nafees. Am still not sure of Sabbir at #3 for ODI's.
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Old November 21, 2016, 04:30 PM
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Some may have pigeon holed him as a test specialist but it's not that he doesn't have the ability to be good in other formats it's that he hasn't been consistent in those formats and that's probably mainly been mental.

He's done pretty well this BPL so he's starting to make a case for t20s.

With a lot of the national team openers being out of form he's putting his name up for a recall in shorter formats but he still needs to show more consistency imo.
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Old November 21, 2016, 05:58 PM
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Yah, it is high time we get him back to the LOI cricket. Forget BPL, do you guys know his DPL record this season? One of the highest scorers with a SR of 95+. That is better than the bests out there, it shows how much he has improved his game, he was always consistent but now he is scoring fast as well.

One thing to note though, is that he should bat higher up in the order. At number 3 or 4. But atm those spots are taken by Shabbir and Mahmudullah, easily the best of the best in Bangladesh and yes even better than Mominul. Maybe the spot that can be considered is Imrul Kayes's opening spot, Mominul is already opening and doing good now. He should continue opening in all first class/DPL games from here onwards as that is the last bit of place left in the team now.

With his stats and performance it is only a matter of time he is called back into the national team. I hope he proves everyone wrong by becoming the top scorer in BPL.
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Old November 21, 2016, 07:08 PM
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There's a huge gulf between Bangladesh's domestic competitions and International Cricket. Mominul is a test player only for me. There's too much competition in ODIs and T20s now. I mean, this is the best ODI XI right now: Tamim, Imrul, Shabbir, Mahmudullah, Mushfiqur, Shakib, Nasir, Mosaddek, Mashrafe, Taskin and Fizz.

But look at the amount of competition for these players positions:

Shahriar
Sarker
Mominul
Rubel
Shafiul
Shahid
Al Amin
Anamul
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Mehedi
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Old November 21, 2016, 08:20 PM
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Nothing is absolutely certain and players come in and out of form, mominul needs to make sure he's scoring consistently enough that when someone in the squad or xi comes into question that his name will be at the top of the list for next in line.

If he can do that he will eventually get another chance.
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Old November 21, 2016, 09:01 PM
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^agree 100% with Gowza. he just needs to keep it up
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Old November 21, 2016, 09:20 PM
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Yes good on him cos he is performing in BPL but lets not act like he has been robbed of a spot in the ODI team of some sort. He has had more than enough chances in the ODI team and to put it simply he didnt perform. No question that he possesses the ability but when he shows consistency in the limited overs domestic comp and puts up big numbers then yea why not give him another shot.

But lets not forget he played 26 ODI matches for BD and averaged 23. That is simply not good enough. Even in domestcs he averages 29. All im asking from him is consistency in limited overs cricket. Then he deserves another shot in the ODI team.
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Old November 21, 2016, 10:14 PM
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There's a huge gulf between Bangladesh's domestic competitions and International Cricket. Mominul is a test player only for me. There's too much competition in ODIs and T20s now. I mean, this is the best ODI XI right now: Tamim, Imrul, Shabbir, Mahmudullah, Mushfiqur, Shakib, Nasir, Mosaddek, Mashrafe, Taskin and Fizz.

But look at the amount of competition for these players positions:

Shahriar
Sarker
Mominul
Rubel
Shafiul
Shahid
Al Amin
Anamul
Arafat
Mehedi
Liton
Nurul
Nurul sarker and liton should play in A team.. currently they are passangers in national team.
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Old November 21, 2016, 10:19 PM
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How you guys compare Sarker with Mominul at present? Sarkar got millions of chances in multiple formats but has not delivered since bloody one year. Momin is technically a very good batsman and he ll shine if he gets chances. For me enough with sarker he needs a break. Nafees and momin need to be considered in shorter format.
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Old November 21, 2016, 10:37 PM
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Mominul got a lot of chances in ODIs too. He used to fail to find gaps, suffocate and then get himself out by constantly fishing outside off stump.
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Old November 21, 2016, 10:52 PM
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Whoever decided to allow Mominul to open, knows exactly how to utilize him.

Bangladesh coach and team management didnt-in the limited over games he played.

I dont think he can make it into BD T20 team, but definite option for ODI's. Definite option for number 3 or even number 2 in case Sabbir/Imrul need a break or dont perform. In limited overs, Mominul should draw inspiration from Rohit Sharma, TM Dilshan who all were middle order batsmen but aced when given the chance to open. Mominul is a superb batsman when the fielders are inside the circle, wont work if he bats at 7.
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Old November 21, 2016, 11:43 PM
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Agreed with Jeesh. Mominul's failures in LOIs was in part because he struggled to pierce the gaps once the fielding restrictions were taken off so he had problems scoring boundaries and rotating the strike at times.

But seeing him during this BPL he seems to have worked on his problems and is much better than before in regards to finding the gaps. He might be a future TI partner
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That 'Dhal Bhat' shot he plays need to be diversified.
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Old November 22, 2016, 12:06 AM
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There's a huge gulf between Bangladesh's domestic competitions and International Cricket. Mominul is a test player only for me. There's too much competition in ODIs and T20s now. I mean, this is the best ODI XI right now: Tamim, Imrul, Shabbir, Mahmudullah, Mushfiqur, Shakib, Nasir, Mosaddek, Mashrafe, Taskin and Fizz.

But look at the amount of competition for these players positions:

Shahriar
Sarker
Mominul
Rubel
Shafiul
Shahid
Al Amin
Anamul
Arafat
Mehedi
Liton
Nurul
Actually Imrul will never be settled in the squad I feel, he has worked a lot on his batting I agree and he has improved 10 folds but he still has to prove he can play outside Bangladesh. In ODI his SR needs to improve, I still am not decided whether he is good for Bangladesh team or not. In tests he is secured, but atm in T20 and ODI his SR will be an issue in the coming series against NZ.

Competition is good, we have very good competition for each position in the squad now. Nobody can relax.

1) Tamim - Fixed (No replacement needed)
2) Imrul/Sarkar/Liton/Anamul/Joyraz Sheik/Saif Hasan (future)/Mehedi Maruf
3) Shabbir/Mominul/Anamul/Shahriar Nafees
4) Mahmudullah - Fixed (No replacement needed)
5) Shakib - Fixed (No replacement needed)
6) Mushfique - Fixed (No replacement needed)
7) Nasir/Shuvagata/Mosaddek/Nurul/Zakir Hasan (keeping, mushfique as a batter only)
8) Miraz/Saifuddin/ Arafat Sunny/ Taijul/ Jubair Hossain(Insert bowling allrounder here)/ Rubel (4 pacer strategy)
9) Mashrafe - Fixed (No replacement needed)
10) Taskin/Alamin/Rony/Shafiul/Shahid/Ebadat
11) Mustafiz - Fixed (No replacement needed)
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Old November 22, 2016, 12:09 AM
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For each position there is atleast 3/4 options. If you really look there maybe more. So, this generation of players really need to perform and play memorable innings in order to be in the national team now.
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Agreed with Jeesh. Mominul's failures in LOIs was in part because he struggled to pierce the gaps once the fielding restrictions were taken off so he had problems scoring boundaries and rotating the strike at times.

But seeing him during this BPL he seems to have worked on his problems and is much better than before in regards to finding the gaps. He might be a future TI partner
He definitely did (before dpl).

http://bangla.bdnews24.com/cricket/a...1133083.bdnews

We have seen the result in dpl. Seeing now in the bpl too.
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Old November 22, 2016, 04:17 AM
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Whoever decided to allow Mominul to open, knows exactly how to utilize him.

Bangladesh coach and team management didnt-in the limited over games he played.

I dont think he can make it into BD T20 team, but definite option for ODI's. Definite option for number 3 or even number 2 in case Sabbir/Imrul need a break or dont perform. In limited overs, Mominul should draw inspiration from Rohit Sharma, TM Dilshan who all were middle order batsmen but aced when given the chance to open. Mominul is a superb batsman when the fielders are inside the circle, wont work if he bats at 7.
I believe he is a better t20 player than an ODI player. His bpl stats and approach also suggest this.
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Old November 22, 2016, 05:17 AM
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Thing is in T20 you need to be able to clear the fence. Otherwise its like a handicap.Like having a striker in football who cant score goals. Because once the field spreads after 6 overs, it becomes very difficult for such batsman to get boundaries.

Mominul has struck only 2 sixes in BPL 2016. And a strike rate of 122 in these wickets against the average bowling quality would be 100 or less in more challenging circumstances.

He's exceptional though with the fielders in the circle. Very competent in scoring 4's (In fact he's got the highest number of 4's in BPL)-most which are classical, orthodox shots. Thats why i think he ll be a very good opening candidate in Limited Over Cricket.
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Old November 22, 2016, 02:43 PM
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I love Mom but I want consider him yet for the T20i
But I want him in the ODIs , just imagine if he can be as consistent odi batsman as he is in Tests.
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Old November 23, 2016, 06:55 AM
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He is a proper top order batsman he deserves opportunity in shorter format.
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Old November 23, 2016, 02:18 PM
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I think it is a very good move in sending him up order to open...He finds gaps.

Somewhere in the IPL, they did that with the out-of-favor former Indian keeper Pathiv Patel**. Proved to be a dynamite!

**BIG EDIT: He's in the current Indian test squad after last playing a test match 8 years ago
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