ODI Performance of Bangladesh, New Zealand and West Indies this decade

[zinatf]

oh wow....seems like FP material. Nice

[playmaker]

our W/L ratio is stll less, might as well start getting busy from now on..and hopefully we can tour NZ soon enough

[Zunaid]

Originally Posted by playmaker
our W/L ratio is stll less, might as well start getting busy from now on..and hopefully we can tour NZ soon enough

Also, the relative number of wins over the number of matches played is also not as good. You might want to use the normalized value over the actual number as that would put things in perspective.

BAN = 9/37 = 24%
NZ = 7/28 = 25%
WIN = 7/37 = 19%

SO NZ was marginally better than us but we were significantly no better than WIN. The not does not in any way take away from our basic premise that we have done as well if not better than NZ and WIN this decade.

Eye opener.

The problem as you have clearly shown is that we are not consistent - and we have been losing more than we should amongst the associates.

How does your analysis look if you limit to the last 5 years?

[al Furqaan]

Its a good sign for sure. 50 matches is a pretty good number for a study, and over the last 2 years, yes we have been no worse than NZ and WI. Gotta keep it up.

In ODIs, we can perhaps start using a term I brought up after the NZ BanglaWash series to replace Great 8...the Fine Nine, F9.

[AsifTheManRahman]

This is now on the FP:

ODI Performances of Bangladesh, New Zealand and the West Indies in the Current Decade
Abdur Rahman Islam

Since the start of the decade, Bangladesh have won more ODI matches against the top 8 teams than New Zealand or West Indies. Abdur Rahman Islam punches numbers and digs through stats to compare the performances of the three teams in this format since 2010.
Read article »

[al Furqaan]

And to think ATMR...you had vanished after that Netherlands loss in 2010...wasn't even aware of the exact date of the first NZ win. That BanglaWash fixed you up pretty good!

[al Furqaan]

Superb article...should be pulled out whenever people question our ODI status.

Also, I've developed and tweaked my own ICC rankings...taking into account factors such as strength of opposition, margins of victory/defeat, and home/away/neutral into the overall ratings. I'm too lazy/busy to update it all by myself since I only know how to do it manually after each series. Can I have my own personal BC staff to help me out???

[Tiger Manc]

This was the table after Asia Cup

Team	Total Matches	Won	Lost	W %	TM v G8	Won	Lost	W %	TM v non G8	Won	Lost	W %
Bangladesh	51	17	34	33	37	9	28	24	14	8	6	57
New Zealand	44	18	26	41	28	7	21	25	16	11	5	69
West Indies	50	18	32	36	37	7	30	19	13	11	2	85

This is the table after West Indies series

Team	Total Matches	Won	Lost	W %	TM v G8	Won	Lost	W %	TM v non G8	Won	Lost	W %
Bangladesh	56	20	36	36	42	12	30	29	14	8	6	57
New Zealand	52	19	33	37	36	8	28	22	16	11	5	69
West Indies	60	24	36	40	42	11	31	26	18	13	5	72

[Tiger Manc]

We've still won more games this decade against top 8 opposition than West Indies or New Zealand. In fact we've won almost every 3rd match against them which is good.

[Tiger Manc]

[quote=Tiger Manc;1507171]
After Asia Cup

Team
Bangladesh		played	won	lost	w%
	overall home record	34	13	21	38.2
	overall away record	17	4	13	23.5
	home record v G8	28	8	20	28.5
	away record v G8	9	1	8	11.1
	home record v non-G8	6	5	1	83.3
	away record v non G8	8	3	5	37.5
West Indies		played	won	lost	w%
	overall home record	27	12	14	46.3
	overall away record	23	6	17	26.1
	home record v G8	20	6	13	32.5
	away record v G8	15	1	14	6.6
	home record v non-G8	7	6	1	85.7
	away record v non G8	6	5	1	83.3
New Zealand		played	won	lost	w%
	overall home record	19	10	9	52.6
	overall away record	24	8	16	33.3
	home record v G8	13	4	9	30.8
	away record v G8	13	3	10	23.1
	home record v non-G8	6	6	0	100
	away record v non G8	10	5	5	50

After West Indies Series

Team
Bangladesh		played	won	lost	w%
	overall home record	39	16	21	41.0
	overall away record	17	4	13	23.5
	home record v G8	33	11	22	33.3
	away record v G8	9	1	8	11.1
	home record v non-G8	6	5	1	83.3
	away record v non G8	8	3	5	37.5
West Indies		played	won	lost	w%
	overall home record	32	16	15	50.0
	overall away record	28	8	20	28.6
	home record v G8	25	10	14	40.0
	away record v G8	15	1	14	6.6
	home record v non-G8	7	6	1	85.7
	away record v non G8	11	7	4	63.6
New Zealand		played	won	lost	w%
	overall home record	19	10	9	52.6
	overall away record	40	10	30	25.0
	home record v G8	13	4	9	30.8
	away record v G8	21	4	17	19.0
	home record v non-G8	6	6	0	100
	away record v non G8	10	5	5	50

[BANFAN]

So our problem has been against the NON G8 Teams...

[BANFAN]

I think your number count for G8 and Non G8 is wrong...Non G8 matches look too less, unless u have considered Zim in G8 for us....14 Matches in ten years against Non G8 is just un believe able....

[Tiger Manc]

That last table didn't come out the way I wanted to. Mods can you tweak the HTML again please.

[Tiger Manc]

Originally Posted by BANFAN
I think your number count for G8 and Non G8 is wrong...Non G8 matches look too less, unless u have considered Zim in G8 for us....14 Matches in ten years against Non G8 is just un believe able....

This decade means from 1st Jan 2010.

[al Furqaan]

So we can stake a legitimate claim to being #7 ranked. In ODIs I think its time to say that we're in the F9.

I've expanded the study to include Zimbabwe: BD, WI, NZ, ZIM in all matches v G8

Bangladesh have the best Win % at 28.57 %. We also have the best W-L ration at 0.40 and the highest batting average, although the 2nd lowest run rate!
WI win % = 25 %
NZ = 21.62 %
ZIM = 19.23% (but 3 of those were against second string India and Sri Lanka sides so 7.69 %).

In home games: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ults;type=team

WI are the best, and we are better than NZ and ZIM (again factoring out 2nd string wins).

BD, WI, NZ, ZIM in away matches v G8 sides

All teams have just one win, but Bangladesh has played by far the least number of away games, so we have the best win %. Our batting average and run rate are higher only than Zimbabwe's...but as a mark of consistency, we have the highest low score (186) and lowest high score (250).

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by shakibrulz
Not bad at all - and yet Bangladesh gets a lot of unfair criticism - as opposed to NZ and WI who seems immune to criticism compared to BD. You guys haven't been that bad past decade, the improvement is there to see - it's just that it has been fairly slow, but there is no denying that there has been progress.

We are criticized because of our test performance. No higher-ranked team takes us for granted in ODI anymore.

[shuziburo]

The decade started in 2011, I think.

Originally Posted by zsayeed
And if you are looking at G8 (incl BD, excl Zim) for the three teams since Jan 1st 2010 here is the w/l

It does not agree with the top table you have.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ults;type=team

And if you are looking for all matches played with all nations for the three of interest since 1/1/10

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ults;type=team

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Superb article...should be pulled out whenever people question our ODI status.

Also, I've developed and tweaked my own ICC rankings...taking into account factors such as strength of opposition, margins of victory/defeat, and home/away/neutral into the overall ratings. I'm too lazy/busy to update it all by myself since I only know how to do it manually after each series. Can I have my own personal BC staff to help me out???

No one except maybe Boycott would question our ODI status. But, do we even care about his comments?