BanglaCricket XI - Specialist Pacers - Page 2

Tiger444 · #26 May 10, 2012, 09:40 AM

No surprise here, I would take Mash, Nazmul and Rubel as my three pacers. Shafiul should still be kept around the team even though his development has been disappointing. He did do well in his last match against India where he took the big wicket of Gambhir and should've gotten Kohli as well. Also in the BPL he took the wickets of Gayle and Shehzad in the same game. So Shafiul is no doubt a threat when he gets going but is still too inconsistent. Abul, Al-Amin, Rabbi, and Babu all have potential but feel that we should develop them more before we start to play them. Since Abul has gotten in 1st, he should be the 1 playing 1st.

BD Rox · #27 May 10, 2012, 02:56 PM

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No surprise here, I would take Mash, Nazmul and Rubel as my three pacers. Shafiul should still be kept around the team even though his development has been disappointing. He did do well in his last match against India where he took the big wicket of Gambhir and should've gotten Kohli as well. Also in the BPL he took the wickets of Gayle and Shehzad in the same game. So Shafiul is no doubt a threat when he gets going but is still too inconsistent. Abul, Al-Amin, Rabbi, and Babu all have potential but feel that we should develop them more before we start to play them. Since Abul has gotten in 1st, he should be the 1 playing 1st.

Damn well said!

BD Rox · #28 May 10, 2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiger444
No surprise here, I would take Mash, Nazmul and Rubel as my three pacers. Shafiul should still be kept around the team even though his development has been disappointing. He did do well in his last match against India where he took the big wicket of Gambhir and should've gotten Kohli as well. Also in the BPL he took the wickets of Gayle and Shehzad in the same game. So Shafiul is no doubt a threat when he gets going but is still too inconsistent. Abul, Al-Amin, Rabbi, and Babu all have potential but feel that we should develop them more before we start to play them. Since Abul has gotten in 1st, he should be the 1 playing 1st.

But, our spot light should be on the spinners, as long as we don't produce a bouncy fast bowling track. Spinners have been dominating for the last decade. We need damn fast bowler who can bowl at an average speed of 140km/h.

Gowza · #29 May 10, 2012, 04:30 PM

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But, our spot light should be on the spinners, as long as we don't produce a bouncy fast bowling track. Spinners have been dominating for the last decade. We need damn fast bowler who can bowl at an average speed of 140km/h.

apparently abul can bowl 140+ consistently.

BengaliPagol · #30 May 11, 2012, 09:15 PM

By clear margins im proud to announce that Mashrafe Mortaza, Rubel Hossain and Nazmul Hossain have all been given a spot into the BanglaCricket XI.

The no. 5 batsmen poll will be up and running soon.

BengaliPagol · #31 May 11, 2012, 09:20 PM

This is the BanglaCricket XI so far...

1. Tamim Iqbal - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=40833
2. Anamul Haque - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=40833
3. Jahurul Islam - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...74#post1518074
4. Shakib Al Hasan - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...26#post1520726
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8. Mashrafe Mortaza - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/sh...27#post1520727
9. Abdur Razzak - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...75#post1518075
10. Nazmul Hossain - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/sh...27#post1520727
11. Rubel Hossain - http://banglacricket.com/alochona/sh...27#post1520727

Tipu606 · #32 May 11, 2012, 09:34 PM

we need a bowler who can also bowl an inswinger and a yorker

BengaliPagol · #33 May 11, 2012, 09:45 PM

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we need a bowler who can also bowl an inswinger and a yorker

Rubel Hossain?

Tipu606 · #34 May 15, 2012, 11:11 PM

i was thinking about Nazmul Hussain who removed the Sri Lankan top order with his brilliant inswingers in the Asia Cup 2012 BD vs Sri Lanka

BengaliPagol · #35 May 16, 2012, 04:48 AM

Rubel is the only one who bowls yorkers.

TimAus · #36 May 16, 2012, 06:14 AM

Well if the other 3 in that team aren't Rahim, Mahmuddulah and Nasir Hossain then there's something wrong. Personally I rate Shafiul fairly highly although injuries seem to be his main problem right now. I remember a few years ago his ODI economy rate was over 7, now it's about 5.5 and he's getting wickets too.

BengaliPagol · #37 May 16, 2012, 06:54 AM

For me Shafiul hasnt developed overly well. He is also inconsistent. I rated him highly when he first started playing but not anymore.

TimAus · #38 May 17, 2012, 04:21 AM

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For me Shafiul hasnt developed overly well. He is also inconsistent. I rated him highly when he first started playing but not anymore.

I think that his development has been slowed because of injuries and nothing else. Against NZ a while back he was excellent and he hasn't been bad since but every time he bowls a good game he seems to miss the next. Given a year of constant cricket I think you'll see a massive improvement.

Tiger444 · #39 May 17, 2012, 08:08 AM

Even though Shafiul is a very inconsistent bowler and many of us, including me, get frustrated with him for his expensive bowling, he's still a guy that we need to develop further. An important statistic to show here is that, in the games we've won against the Test playing nations in ODI's, his average is a 23.33 with an economy rate of a 4.56 which shows how crucial he has been in our wins. His average and economy rate are higher then Nazmul's and no I'm not saying Shafiul's a better bowler overall but again we shouldn't drop a guy who has played a crucial part in ours wins. His pace is also pretty good. He does need to work on his control which I'm sure he is working on with the coaches. Once he can get that down, I can see him being a very good pacer at the international level. The key is patience and support with Shafiul and I'm sure he'll be fine.

al Furqaan · #40 May 17, 2012, 12:32 PM

For limited overs matches, its obvious. We need Mashrafee and Nazmul to open, with Rubel bowling first change.

In tests, we might as well field all SLAs because none of our pacers can take wickets.

TimAus · #41 May 17, 2012, 10:39 PM

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In tests, we might as well field all SLAs because none of our pacers can take wickets.

I think Bangladesh should look at Sri Lanka and what they have done in tests. I don't think there is any evidence to say Lakmal and Welegedara are any better than any player in Bangladesh but Sri Lanka have still been able to take 20 wickets in test matches. They rely mostly on spin like Bangladesh but their pace bowlers get the most out of themselves. The main fast bowlers mentioned on this thread (Mortaza, Rubel, Nazmul, Shafiul, Shahadat etc) are good enough to bowl line and length with subtle movement. It is discipline that will get them wickets and also build pressure for the spinners who are world class. Just look at the job Tim Bresnan did for England yesterday. He didn't get a wicket but he always built pressure bowling at just 130km/h.

Rifat · #42 May 17, 2012, 11:36 PM

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I think Bangladesh should look at Sri Lanka and what they have done in tests. I don't think there is any evidence to say Lakmal and Welegedara are any better than any player in Bangladesh but Sri Lanka have still been able to take 20 wickets in test matches. They rely mostly on spin like Bangladesh but their pace bowlers get the most out of themselves. The main fast bowlers mentioned on this thread (Mortaza, Rubel, Nazmul, Shafiul, Shahadat etc) are good enough to bowl line and length with subtle movement. It is discipline that will get them wickets and also build pressure for the spinners who are world class. Just look at the job Tim Bresnan did for England yesterday. He didn't get a wicket but he always built pressure bowling at just 130km/h.

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YES! you are 100% spot on. This is how Nazmul Hossain is so successful he has discipline , the other Bangladeshi bowlers are good but they lack discipline many times(hence why they are too expensive, and nobody is really express pace to be that threatening either) even if someone was pace threatening, someone like let's say Rubel Hossain, the international bullies who has to deal with him faces those types of bowlers in their sleep(Every country has at least one express pace bowler). so yeah, Discipline is KEY!

The real reason behind Bangladesh's lack of success in Tests compared to ODI's is that we never really pose/post a threatening total to contend/stretch the opposition. This is the main reason why we never(or very rarely) take 20 wickets! Our Opponents never feel the pressure, which is the key factor here. When was the last time Bangladesh posted over 400? I feel like we should play Zimbabwe in at least two test matches very very soon? Playing Zimbabwe won't be a bad idea...