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Old June 20, 2012, 01:09 AM
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pfft...he jsut has some pace but cant bowl yorkers.....no one cant bowl yorkers in our team...
I shouldn't have to do this, but do you not remember this?

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Old June 20, 2012, 01:35 AM
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You think so? We are without one of our best death over bowlers. Rubel Hossain that is. Haven't seen him bowl in T20 deaths. BUt he's spectacular in ODI death overs. Everyone knows that. :-)
Yeah. I spent long enough when I arrived with Rubel trying to bowl death yorkers and reverse swing. He delivered spectacularly against NZ.

Bowling yorkers is a great skill. In the IPL we saw Delhi Daredevils losing the plot and getting smoked on their last two matches because they couldn't bowl yorkers.

There is nothing better than yorkers at the end of an innings, because you can set your field accordingly. If you drop the ball short, you need a 360 degree field because the ball could go in any direction.

But you HAVE to drill it in to bowlers and they have to feel confident bowling them. It's all about what you do in training and how often.
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Old June 20, 2012, 01:36 AM
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Our guys not working hard on their own is serious problem already identified by every coach coming from all other test cricket cultures where that happens to be the norm
Talk about timing, watching the news before hitting the sack last night, and who do I see on the telly? Shariar Nafees.

Topic of conversation: fitness and practice

Nafees: jatiya dol-r camp-r baire thaakle ashole oi bhabhe fitness maintain kora hoy naa eka eka.

I wanted to throw my remote at the f-ing tv. This is a seasoned pro talking about not being motivated enough to work on his game on his own time. How can we expect the youngsters to do better when we have people like Nafees setting this sort of an example
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Old June 20, 2012, 03:50 AM
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Its amazes me how some of us think mash was never a worldclass bowler and how just one bad performance suddenly can make a proven performer to bad one...

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Old June 20, 2012, 04:45 AM
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Mash is alright. Ofcourse he is not the same fierce bowler he was before injury, but he still can deliver better than most pacers we have. The last match was one of his bad days, nothing more than that. He'll come back in the next game.
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Old June 20, 2012, 05:45 AM
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I miss the old Mashrafee
His bowling really suprised me. I guess it was just a really bad day for him.

Btw what happened to Nazmul? wasn't he in the team?
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Old June 20, 2012, 05:49 AM
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I miss the old Mashrafee
His bowling really suprised me. I guess it was just a really bad day for him.

Btw what happened to Nazmul? wasn't he in the team?
He is a step son, remember ? Only if someone gets injured or stomach upset, then we remember him.
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Old June 20, 2012, 09:01 AM
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I really thought it was baseless to play Abul so soon. I dont know what kind of superb performance he did in domestics and BPL that he is getting a nod ahead of nazmul who was so very brilliant in Asia Cup??

I saw him bowl once in BPL, and he bowled 3 no-balls in a single over. The only bowlers in BD that bowl well at death are nazmul, shafiul and rubel, among whom shafiul is looks poor up front but I really think Rubel and Nazmul shud be our core.

I dont think with the pace, line and length Mashrafee bowls, he is knowhere near World Class anymore. If you dont have pace, you can beat them with line and length, look for kulasakera for example. And Mash here bowls an absolute rubbish line and length esp. during the death. He bowls about 3-4 length ball in the death which is def. RUBBISH. He really needs to get the yorker in, its really an eyesore when a bowler with 10 years of intl cricket exposure cant even bowl a single yorker.
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Old June 20, 2012, 10:54 AM
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I'm surprised to see Mashrafe lost a bit of swing he used to get with the new ball. In last match when he tried to swing, twice the ball gone over the line and called wide. I hope Mash gets his swing back because as he lost a bit of pace, without swing it'll be really difficult to be economical and take wickets importantly
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Old June 20, 2012, 11:11 AM
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just 1??? got anymore?
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Old June 20, 2012, 11:55 AM
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I'm surprised to see Mashrafe lost a bit of swing he used to get with the new ball. In last match when he tried to swing, twice the ball gone over the line and called wide. I hope Mash gets his swing back because as he lost a bit of pace, without swing it'll be really difficult to be economical and take wickets importantly
mash is most time horrible in African condition.
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Old June 20, 2012, 12:04 PM
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Talk about timing, watching the news before hitting the sack last night, and who do I see on the telly? Shariar Nafees.

Topic of conversation: fitness and practice

Nafees: jatiya dol-r camp-r baire thaakle ashole oi bhabhe fitness maintain kora hoy naa eka eka.

I wanted to throw my remote at the f-ing tv. This is a seasoned pro talking about not being motivated enough to work on his game on his own time. How can we expect the youngsters to do better when we have people like Nafees setting this sort of an example
Well now we know the reason he's underachieved in international cricket don't we? That type of attitude will get you nowhere. Hopefully our younger guys will have a much better attitude and not get big head after just a few 50's
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Old June 20, 2012, 01:11 PM
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Is that Lamisa between 2:01 and 2:05?
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Old June 20, 2012, 01:53 PM
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Well now we know the reason he's underachieved in international cricket don't we? That type of attitude will get you nowhere. Hopefully our younger guys will have a much better attitude and not get big head after just a few 50's
listen, Nafees & Ash r most fitness conscious players.I read somewhere Nafees has a personal trainer also.So what abt others if Nafees is like that?
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Old June 20, 2012, 02:04 PM
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I think Nafees is being a bad example here, but one way or the another he is right about what he says. He is probably not getting the best facilities becauses we dont have quality coaches or trainers to turn to during times when they arent playing for the national team. That could be a good reason why some of the players just whither away due to lack of fitness, once discarded from national team, e.g. Aftab

But nafees should work hard no matter what. Hopefully, once the academy is properly prepared, the players who dont have much to do should come over and practice
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Old June 20, 2012, 02:23 PM
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Is that Lamisa between 2:01 and 2:05?
o eto shukna na bhaia...
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Old June 20, 2012, 02:59 PM
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o eto shukna na bhaia...
'O' ta abar key? ...sentence ta Shunte kemn kemon jani laglo aarki....
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Old June 20, 2012, 03:02 PM
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I shouldn't have to do this, but do you not remember this?

One of THE best reverse swing yorkers in ODI cricket. We spent the day before practicing these, too!!! Lowest total ever defended at SNBS
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Old June 20, 2012, 03:10 PM
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Mash still has it in him. But in Harare, in order to be effective, you need more pace and bounce... both he lacks. But he is great in Sub Continent conditions and if he can avoid injury, he will work up his pace to bowl good in other conditions.
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Old June 20, 2012, 04:28 PM
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One of THE best reverse swing yorkers in ODI cricket. We spent the day before practicing these, too!!! Lowest total ever defended at SNBS
coach, who is our best death over bowler???? and have you ever seen Robiul Islam in action????
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Old June 20, 2012, 05:56 PM
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Hopefully we will see some blockhole bowling today and toe crushers mixed with occassional crafty bouncers and not just short pitch deliveries like last match. Not quite sure about the gameplan, we will have to wait and see. But Abul has got disguised slower delivery which needs more nourishing before he can hit consistent line with that slower one. Last two matches, our bowlers didn't even try blockhole bowling.
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Old June 20, 2012, 07:28 PM
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just 1??? got anymore?
That was the one that really counted though. I'll also remind you that Rubel has only played 37 ODIs and is 22, so he'll only improve.
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Old June 20, 2012, 07:40 PM
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just 1??? got anymore?
Oh God!
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Old June 20, 2012, 08:36 PM
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That was the one that really counted though. I'll also remind you that Rubel has only played 37 ODIs and is 22, so he'll only improve.
ok now that makes sense....i'll take ur word
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Old June 20, 2012, 11:52 PM
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I think Mash really needs to get his pace up. If bowl below 135 in pace conditions you are asking for trouble.

And Mash's death bowling is as horrible as it gets, last match he didnt fail big time because he was lucky esp. after the countless number of length bowl he bowled today.

He can try to be like kulasakera but kulasakera is brilliant when it comes to bowling line and length and it the death he can bowl some brilliant yorkers.
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