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Old December 27, 2012, 10:17 AM
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khamakhai ki ar okey Bangla'r Hulk boli?
And Tamim & Ryad thought if they can't hit no one can.
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Old December 27, 2012, 11:13 AM
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Well done G.I. Joe , now transform this innings into an international one
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Old December 27, 2012, 11:18 AM
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U are so obsessed with using players nick name or in bengali daak naam.
Agree . He sometimes creates confusion as it is hard to follow his post with some nicks for instance Nostradumas Rex. But, it makes the post more interesting to read definitely.
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Old December 27, 2012, 11:21 AM
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Zia ke Test dole neowa hok Tamim er poribotte
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Old December 27, 2012, 11:22 AM
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15 sixes in an innings by a BD guy!!! That's something to be proud of. What is the 2nd highest number of sixes in an innings Hit by a BD guy? I don't think its.more than 7-8

Well done the incredible hulk of Bangladesh!
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Old December 27, 2012, 11:30 AM
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15 sixes.... reminds me of Watson playing against Bangladesh.

Well done.. its a shame he ran out of partners and more importantly it was not an international match
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Old December 27, 2012, 11:32 AM
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15 sixes in an innings by a BD guy!!! That's something to be proud of. What is the 2nd highest number of sixes in an innings Hit by a BD guy? I don't think its.more than 7-8

Well done the incredible hulk of Bangladesh!
11 was the Highest by a Bd batsman AFAIK. Done by zunaid in a T20 game back in 2004/05/06
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Old December 27, 2012, 12:02 PM
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11 was the Highest by a Bd batsman AFAIK. Done by zunaid in a T20 game back in 2004/05/06
Thanx Nadim. Old JuSi could play such an explosive innings. Actually he did start his career with a blast. And now its really painful to see him bat. Afsos..
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Old December 27, 2012, 12:16 PM
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In ODIs I wouldn't mind seeing him at #7 and bumping someone up to #3 if we can't find a settled #3.
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Old December 27, 2012, 01:29 PM
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152 off 118 balls in FC with 15 sixes!! just wow, the bowling wasnt that weak either. This guy is a monster
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Old December 27, 2012, 01:39 PM
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ZIA came into bat when score was 150/5
So, for any batter with commonsense and proper skill set would understand time is not suitable for attack, rather first had to settle-down and assess situation
and WHAT ZIA did let's check what stats says:

Ziaur Rahman 11* (30b 1x4)
Team score - 171/5
He was very watchful

He continued his effort until
Ziaur Rahman 17* (45b 1x4)
Team score was 193/7 and another wicket falls Team score became 193/8

Look at his scoring rate he was not the aggressor yet
but as he was running out of partners he reassess situation and understand he had to score most of the runs and he start hitting hard to only those balls which he could able to hit... look at the stats

His partners (Rubel 28 Murad 25) faced 53 balls, ZIA 73 out of which he scored 135 but his scoring balls are [6s+4s+3s+2s+1s]=(15+6+1+1+16)=39 and 34 dot balls (47% dots) where mostly he respect the bowlers for their good deliveries or didn't score singles to cover his tailender colleague.

To me most important aspect is in most cases this type of innings one could play one/two in a career, unfortunately he played it in a domestic game. Love to dream he could reproduce such sensible innings in his international career and will give us opportunity to watch such pleasantly-sensible innings from one of our batter.

btw, in Test or ODI no captain will show the magnitude of stupidity MULLAH showed today by giving ball to Ashraful and Mehrab jnr. Fortunately ZIA faced only 13 deliveries. He scored 42 runs (hit six sixes - 3 of each).

Hope ZIA will continue to show same intent and intellect that he showed today...
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Old December 27, 2012, 01:45 PM
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You don't make a century by slogging....If that's so...then TI is a little better slogger by performance... Hope he can do as good slogging as TI in future...that will make this guy a much more valuable player, with his bowling ability in LOIs....
Um no. You can get tons through slogging ala Gayle. Tamim is no slogger although he does slog once in a while, but Zia is. Sheer power and hand eye co-ordination. And that aint a bad thing at all, of course. You don't need him in tests now IMO (he could make a strong case if consistent though), but is a must in ODIs.
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Old December 27, 2012, 01:58 PM
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Bolsilam na...Zia can be game changer in T20 and ODI... pure power...what ever I have seen (limited). when he hits...he hits with so much power.... these type of players are maed for T20 and lower end ODI...high octane shots....ekdom atom bomb.

He should be seriously consodered in ODI and T20, because he fills a specific gap in the team.
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Old December 27, 2012, 02:01 PM
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Reposters are already asking.. apne koon reshoner chaal khan? Unda koita khaan? Half boil naki kacha.... shokale cholar shathe ki khan? Deene koita Bookdon den?
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Old December 27, 2012, 02:08 PM
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his Sixes were all against spinners, so seems like he is not much comfortable equally against pace bowling, nonetheless, a wonderful knock from our boy !!
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Old December 27, 2012, 02:21 PM
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his Sixes were all against spinners, so seems like he is not much comfortable equally against pace bowling, nonetheless, a wonderful knock from our boy !!
or may be too good against FBs and may be opponent captain was too afraid that Zia will make those FBs tulo Dhunu ... petayee ekdom chatu banaye felbe...and that's why they barely used FBs against ZIa in this game.

Zia came to bat at the end of 36th over. And out of those FBs, only Shahadat was used for 3 overs: 59th over, 61th over and 63th over and here is what Shahadat gave:

59th over Shahadat gave 11 runs
61th over Shahadat gave 10 runs
63th over Shahadat gave 17 runs
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Old December 27, 2012, 02:26 PM
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ZIA came into bat when score was 150/5
So, for any batter with commonsense and proper skill set would understand time is not suitable for attack, rather first had to settle-down and assess situation
and WHAT ZIA did let's check what stats says:

Ziaur Rahman 11* (30b 1x4)
Team score - 171/5
He was very watchful

He continued his effort until
Ziaur Rahman 17* (45b 1x4)
Team score was 193/7 and another wicket falls Team score became 193/8

Look at his scoring rate he was not the aggressor yet
but as he was running out of partners he reassess situation and understand he had to score most of the runs and he start hitting hard to only those balls which he could able to hit... look at the stats

His partners (Rubel 28 Murad 25) faced 53 balls, ZIA 73 out of which he scored 135 but his scoring balls are [6s+4s+3s+2s+1s]=(15+6+1+1+16)=39 and 34 dot balls (47% dots) where mostly he respect the bowlers for their good deliveries or didn't score singles to cover his tailender colleague.

To me most important aspect is in most cases this type of innings one could play one/two in a career, unfortunately he played it in a domestic game. Love to dream he could reproduce such sensible innings in his international career and will give us opportunity to watch such pleasantly-sensible innings from one of our batter.

btw, in Test or ODI no captain will show the magnitude of stupidity MULLAH showed today by giving ball to Ashraful and Mehrab jnr. Fortunately ZIA faced only 13 deliveries. He scored 42 runs (hit six sixes - 3 of each).

Hope ZIA will continue to show same intent and intellect that he showed today...

wonderful post We need more intelligent cricketers like him
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Old December 27, 2012, 02:49 PM
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Old December 27, 2012, 03:16 PM
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I have been advocating for him for long time . he is our Samuel , should be considered for all formats !!
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Old December 27, 2012, 03:21 PM
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11 was the Highest by a Bd batsman AFAIK. Done by zunaid in a T20 game back in 2004/05/06
Tamim hit 12 a month and a half back. That's the 2nd highest.

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Um no. You can get tons through slogging ala Gayle. Tamim is no slogger although he does slog once in a while, but Zia is. Sheer power and hand eye co-ordination. And that aint a bad thing at all, of course. You don't need him in tests now IMO (he could make a strong case if consistent though), but is a must in ODIs.
By what definition Tamim is not a slogger and Gayle and Zia is, can you explain a bit more? Unless its just a logicless belief...

If Gayle and Zia is sheer hand eye coordination, so is TI, I don't see his foot moving, unless stepping out of the crease (Cause of many of his demise) ...that's done by both Gayle and Zia.... An aggressive bats man is not necessary a slogger... Gayle and Zia has shown much more patience when needed unlike TI....who only knows one way of batting....

You may like to read Boka's analysis for Zia...and I don't probably need to talk about Gayle...
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Old December 27, 2012, 06:10 PM
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Zia ke Test dole neowa hok Tamim er poribotte
Keno bhai, amra ki surplus batting syndrome e bhugchi....?? If we can Manage proper 5/6 batsmen, why not...lets see if Anamul, Mominul etc can mature.....why not...
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Old December 27, 2012, 06:11 PM
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Good to see Ziaur making a statement. Scoring at the rate he did is tremendous. He really did turn the game around completely.
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By what definition Tamim is not a slogger and Gayle and Zia is, can you explain a bit more? Unless its just a logicless belief...

If Gayle and Zia is sheer hand eye coordination, so is TI, I don't see his foot moving, unless stepping out of the crease (Cause of many of his demise) ...that's done by both Gayle and Zia.... An aggressive bats man is not necessary a slogger... Gayle and Zia has shown much more patience when needed unlike TI....who only knows one way of batting....
Tamim scores most of his runs through proper cricketing shots, there is the left handers elegance to the shots he execute. He does slog once in a while but does not rely on power.
Gayle and Zia relies on brute force and power. If you watched cricket long enough u should know/see the difference, its not that hard...
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Old December 27, 2012, 10:31 PM
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Tamim scores most of his runs through proper cricketing shots, there is the left handers elegance to the shots he execute. He does slog once in a while but does not rely on power.
Gayle and Zia relies on brute force and power. If you watched cricket long enough u should know/see the difference, its not that hard...
Yeah this. I can't believe this has to be explained, the bleeding obvious to anyone who's been watching them. Tamim scores most of his runs through conventional shots - i.e. drives, cuts, pulls along the ground - most of them relies on timing rather than power. Gayle plays the big slogs rather than more conventional shots which relies on brute force and fine hand eye co-ordination.

The term slogger gets a bad rap, but it really isn't. A slogger can slog sensibly (like Zia did) have decent temperament etc. They add to the X factor of the team too IMO.
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