The Ziaur Rahman Thread - Page 3

Sohel · #51 June 23, 2012, 04:51 AM

Shabbir Rahman Rumman is the ideal candidate to bat low down the order as finisher IMHO. Definitely not a goatlasher like ZiRa.

nadim 98 · #52 June 23, 2012, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sohel NR
Shabbir Rahman Rumman is the ideal candidate to bat low down the order as finisher IMHO. Definitely not a goatlasher like ZiRa.

Exactly. Especilly for T20. Shabbir proved that already. Every time he play t20, be it for academy/a team, he is the one who shines with the bat but selectors keep ignoring him. His fielding is as gd as Nasir too if not better.

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Navo · #53 June 23, 2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sohel NR
Shabbir Rahman Rumman is the ideal candidate to bat low down the order as finisher IMHO. Definitely not a goatlasher like ZiRa.

But is he or Mominul ready yet for the international stage? I mean, I don't think Zia is a long-term solution atm but the World Cup in Sri Lanka isn't that far away.

He does seem to be in the selectors minds though as he's been selected for the A squad to India. Let's see how he does there, even though his performance in the four-day game isn't really illustrative of his potential in the shorter formats.

Sohel · #54 June 23, 2012, 05:05 AM

TBH, ZiRa had decent medium fast pace before he decided to reinvent himself as a batsman in our domestics. He hardly bowls there anymore and has become a trundler.

Sohel · #55 June 23, 2012, 05:07 AM

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But is he or Mominul ready yet for the international stage? I mean, I don't think Zia is a long-term solution atm but the World Cup in Sri Lanka isn't that far away.

He does seem to be in the selectors minds though as he's been selected for the A squad to India. Let's see how he does there, even though his performance in the four-day game isn't really illustrative of his potential in the shorter formats.

Rumman has done really well in every international stage where he was given a go. His performance brought home the SAARC and Asian Games championships. He's a victim of nepotism plain and simple.

Navo · #56 June 23, 2012, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nadim 98
Exactly. Especilly for T20. Shabbir proved that already. Every time he play t20, be it for academy/a team, he is the one who shines with the bat but selectors keep ignoring him. His fielding is as gd as Nasir too if not better.

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His most recent form in the BPL hasn't been great and that may be a factor.

playmaker · #57 June 23, 2012, 05:10 AM

Im pretty sure that they gave some1 like zia a nod ahead of sabbir and mominul because of the more experience zia brings with himself. It could be a possible reason. But it makes no sense to play jahurul when he has been a proven failure in this format of the game

Navo · #58 June 23, 2012, 05:32 AM

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Rumman has done really well in every international stage where he was given a go. His performance brought home the SAARC and Asian Games championships. He's a victim of nepotism plain and simple.

Nepotism? Why would he be a victim of nepotism? In any case, it would have been great to have had him in this side for the unofficial series. Would have been great to see what he can do and his leg spin would have been a very useful addition. But that's past now and unless the selectors suddenly decide to add him for the Ireland/Netherlands tour, it is unlikely that he will be in the squad for this year's world cup. So, we have to hope that the best XI is fielded of the options we currently have.

Sohel · #59 June 23, 2012, 05:53 AM

Nepotism is unpleasant but a glaring reality in this country. This is not empty suspicion mongering either unfortunately. Sadly I cannot disclose further in a public forum about the disgusting influence of nepotism and sectarianism, but would love to talk about it face to face.

KaaL-PurusH · #60 June 23, 2012, 07:40 AM

Did u guys forget that not so long ago ZIa was just a bowler and then started to play as batsmen after picked up a injury. It’s too much to expect to see him doing great as batsmen. So it’s pretty obvious that he would have some limitation. He has been selected because he has can hit the ball hard and the selectors trying to use his ability in international arena. So it is really hash to scrutinise him for not doing something exceptional. Be fair guys

frd · #61 June 23, 2012, 07:56 AM

some people here in BC are too harsh on zia . he played only 4 t20s and did ok .why the cry for sabbir ?? his stats in BPL is really poor and on the other hand zia did well in BPL and DPL .he mainly came in the team as a pinch hitter . let him play the t20s in ireland and then have a verdict . meanwhile sabbir may get the chance to play in the A team's tour to india. people here are so impatient .they cried for alok ,then for shuvo ,then for hom ,then for anamul , then for zia and now for sabbir

KaaL-PurusH · #62 June 23, 2012, 08:05 AM

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some people here in BC are too harsh on zia . he played only 4 t20s and did ok .why the cry for sabbir ?? his stats in BPL is really poor and on the other hand zia did well in BPL and DPL .he mainly came in the team as a pinch hitter . let him play the t20s in ireland and then have a verdict . meanwhile sabbir may get the chance to play in the A team's tour to india. people here are so impatient .they cried for alok ,then for shuvo ,then for hom ,then for anamul , then for zia and now for sabbir

well said..it seems like most of us wants ishtar not a contributor for the team

Hasan2k8 · #63 June 23, 2012, 10:26 AM

Ziaur will come good. He needs more time to learn. Give him time.

kalpurush · #64 June 23, 2012, 10:46 AM

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some people here in BC are too harsh on zia . he played only 4 t20s and did ok .why the cry for sabbir ?? his stats in BPL is really poor and on the other hand zia did well in BPL and DPL .he mainly came in the team as a pinch hitter . let him play the t20s in ireland and then have a verdict . meanwhile sabbir may get the chance to play in the A team's tour to india. people here are so impatient .they cried for alok ,then for shuvo ,then for hom ,then for anamul , then for zia and now for sabbir

Well, Zia should be given more time for sure. Though, he seems think that slog is the ultimate solution - is it really? He got two lives in the last match and was out cheaply in the previous two matches too. I thought, in international cricket you have to be a bit more smarter than that, no?

simon · #65 June 23, 2012, 10:53 AM

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some people here in BC are too harsh on zia . he played only 4 t20s and did ok .why the cry for sabbir ?? his stats in BPL is really poor and on the other hand zia did well in BPL and DPL .he mainly came in the team as a pinch hitter . let him play the t20s in ireland and then have a verdict . meanwhile sabbir may get the chance to play in the A team's tour to india. people here are so impatient .they cried for alok ,then for shuvo ,then for hom ,then for anamul , then for zia and now for sabbir

u r so right bro, it seems like some fans' love switches from one player to another.
enough said about the over hype.
No matter how lucky or sloggish Zia has been what is important is that he got runs and odd but important breakthroughs.
He is a good find but only for teaTwnties.
Yes He needs to improve a lot.specially if he wants to play ODIs.
but knowing that its the BD teaTwnty squad then we can definitely afford a Zia.

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Night_wolf · #66 June 23, 2012, 10:57 AM

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Well, Zia should be given more time for sure. Though, he seems think that slog is the ultimate solution - is it really? He got two lives in the last match and was out cheaply in the previous two matches too. I thought, in international cricket you have to be a bit more smarter than that, no?

Zia looks like he has the brain functions of ash with out the talent of ash

but as Simon bhai said i think we can afford him for out T20 squad since we dont have that much alternatives..if zia did badly we could have let nazmul milon have a go, but zia did decently in this series, well luck fevered him

Jadukor · #67 June 23, 2012, 11:15 AM

We need to be patient. Everyone needs a certain bit of time before they can mature as a cricketer. Remember Andrew Symonds?... he was a bits and pieces player until that WC innings against Pakistan. There was a time when even Tamim would go down the wicket ever so often.
Zia has limitations and his thinking might not have been smart...but that's why we have all these coaches working with the team. Lets see how he does in the Europe tour under seaming conditions.

frd · #68 June 23, 2012, 11:25 AM

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Well, Zia should be given more time for sure. Though, he seems think that slog is the ultimate solution - is it really? He got two lives in the last match and was out cheaply in the previous two matches too. I thought, in international cricket you have to be a bit more smarter than that, no?

off course . but if we can afford rakibul and naeem in the same t20 team then we can certainly afford a zia in t20 team.there is always room for improvement .pybus was behind the rise of albie morkal .who knows same might happen in case of zia ?

Sovik · #69 June 23, 2012, 11:28 AM

He seemed decent enough. He can hit the ball. Just needs to check his aggression. And also needs to be given enough matches to succeed or fail

kalpurush · #70 June 23, 2012, 11:40 AM

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off course . but if we can afford rakibul and naeem in the same t20 team then we can certainly afford a zia in t20 team.there is always room for improvement .pybus was behind the rise of albie morkal .who knows same might happen in case of zia ?

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He seemed decent enough. He can hit the ball. Just needs to check his aggression. And also needs to be given enough matches to succeed or fail

Agree

If a player is selected, he should be given enough time to prove himself. I am not against Zia, rather a well-wisher