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Old December 11, 2012, 02:27 AM
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So this is how Ziaur Rahman "Jony" becomes the latest "all rounder" in a long line of "hiru-2-jiru" players.

His military mediums, not at all a rocket science BTW, were very effective in one T20I match as are his courageous but nonetheless blind slogs when he connects 2 out of 10 times. But how long before he's figured out by international batsmen and bowlers? Ask Mushfiq Babu and the significantly more capable Farhad Reza about their rise and fall and you'll know why.

Zia is a temporary solution at best as long as he remains a mystery. Potentially better seamers with genuine batting ability will replace him as soon as they learn to bowl more accurately without compromising better pace and swing, and fight through being rattled as they will surely be on many occasions, and come back strong. Both Raju and Babu and even Reza, "Dolar", Robin and Tapash fit that bill.

Koushik and even Shuhash can do what Zia can better and with a higher success rate. My two cents.
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Old December 11, 2012, 04:29 AM
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To me, Zia is a very good find for ODI and T20. This kinda players are more than handy for limited overs matches. They can change the course of the match quickly. Some times he will succeed and some times fail. We gotta bear this.
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Old December 11, 2012, 04:34 AM
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So this is how Ziaur Rahman "Jony" becomes the latest "all rounder" in a long line of "hiru-2-jiru" candidates.

Ask Mushfiq Babu and the significantly more capable Farhad Reza about their rise and fall and you'll know why.
Being compared to Jacques Reza in itself is an achievement for Zia
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Old December 12, 2012, 10:45 AM
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I disagree with all those who think Zia is like Feza and Mushfiq babu....or his batting with Shuhash or koushik..... That's a very preconceived notion .... He has already performed with bat and ball when he got chance.

I don't like to say that he will be a perfect all rounder, but he is definitely the best choice for #7 /#6 in ODIs and T20. And I don't think it's a short term solution.

If he is given the opportunities, I'm sure he will do much better than Feza type guys...Feza even doesn't come into any comparison with him.

Time will prove his utility...

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Old December 12, 2012, 10:56 AM
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I think Zia can be a good inclusion in our ODI squad in place of Mominul.
I wasn't particularly impressed with Momin,he is very young ,so still have time to work on and come back later.
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Old December 12, 2012, 11:55 AM
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I like what I see of Momin, specially his ability to play short pitch bowling (rare amongst bangladeshi batsman), but I would prefer Zia in the 11 over Momin anyday..
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Old December 12, 2012, 01:42 PM
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It is really very tough to say anything about future of Zia. Technically he is not a sound batsman. Mainly he relies on timing. As his technique is poor he will have to fight a lot to survive. But one thing can survive him, that is his bowling. His F C bowling career is good. If he can deliver good bowling(5/6 overs per match) he will be able to survive in international cricket. But only as a batsman its tough for him as his batting technique is deeply flawed.
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Old December 12, 2012, 02:51 PM
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At this level if he plays T20 and #7 in ODI I care less about his batting technique as long as he is producing. The same is tue with his bowling... as long as he is gettiing wicket and holing the RR in T20 and ODI, I care less about his speed.

He provides a specialized skill that we are missing in our T20 and ODI team. that's why I would like him to give him a chance.

Now in future, we may have better solution and then Zia will be replaced by him. but nobody should problem with that. But as long as we have a need and Zia has the potential to fill up the gap, then there is no excuse to not to try him.

In the process of trying, if he fail repeatedly in the process, then at some point drop him.
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Old December 12, 2012, 08:46 PM
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So this is how Ziaur Rahman "Jony" becomes the latest "all rounder" in a long line of "hiru-2-jiru" players.

His military mediums, not at all a rocket science BTW, were very effective in one T20I match as are his courageous but nonetheless blind slogs when he connects 2 out of 10 times. But how long before he's figured out by international batsmen and bowlers? Ask Mushfiq Babu and the significantly more capable Farhad Reza about their rise and fall and you'll know why.

Zia is a temporary solution at best as long as he remains a mystery. Potentially better seamers with genuine batting ability will replace him as soon as they learn to bowl more accurately without compromising better pace and swing, and fight through being rattled as they will surely be on many occasions, and come back strong. Both Raju and Babu and even Reza, "Dolar", Robin and Tapash fit that bill.

Koushik and even Shuhash can do what Zia can better and with a higher success rate. My two cents.
I feel the same way, to be honest. We should give Babu a chance in this upcoming A team tour and see what he's got.
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Old December 12, 2012, 09:07 PM
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I personally love seaming all rounders. They have great value everywhere in the world except Bangladesh and their value comes from the fact that their bowling is useful in most of the conditions around the world. Look at the best cricketers from the past, they were all seaming allrounders. Bangladesh needs one badly. A genuine pace bowler who bats 3/4 down. Zia may not be the answer yet. But he is probably the best we have got. Hence, if I was a selector I will spur him on, encourage him greatly.
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Old December 15, 2012, 02:34 AM
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zia bowled a great spell that day. it was the lentgh mcgrath and pollock used to bowl, he had almost a similar height to deliver from too.

and i actually never saw him bowling that consistently.
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Old December 15, 2012, 01:26 PM
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zia bowled a great spell that day. it was the lentgh mcgrath and pollock used to bowl, he had almost a similar height to deliver from too.

and i actually never saw him bowling that consistently.
Yes in last T20 he bowled really well. His bowling figure was also good. 4-0-16-1
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Old December 19, 2012, 11:39 AM
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I would like to see Zia in ODI. Not one chance, full ODI series.

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Old December 27, 2012, 05:31 AM
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Must in ODIs. 123 in 106 balls with 11 sixes is just

Excellent slogger.
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Old December 27, 2012, 05:35 AM
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Everyone thinks Zia is a player of shorter version but it is the time to consider him all formats of cricket. He plays today a heroic innings.
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Old December 27, 2012, 06:18 AM
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I think Zia vented his frustration of not being able to bat during the T20 against WI
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Old December 27, 2012, 06:39 AM
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What a Player! SimPly ferocious!
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Old December 27, 2012, 07:31 AM
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Prothom alo online says its a world record for longer version,really???
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Old December 27, 2012, 07:53 AM
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Prothom alo online says its a world record for longer version,really???
If the tournament can achieve first class status, it will be a world record.
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Old December 27, 2012, 08:05 AM
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If the tournament can achieve first class status, it will be a world record.
BCB declared it as a first class,so its first class!
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Prothom alo online says its a world record for longer version,really???
16 sixes is the record - http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...8&postcount=34
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Old December 27, 2012, 08:34 AM
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Yeah I agree he should also be part of our ODI plans but what we should do is 'rotate' our players so we give everyone a chance and they don't pick up injuries especially with our fast bowlers.
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Old December 27, 2012, 08:37 AM
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So this is how Ziaur Rahman "Jony" becomes the latest "all rounder" in a long line of "hiru-2-jiru" players.

His military mediums, not at all a rocket science BTW, were very effective in one T20I match as are his courageous but nonetheless blind slogs when he connects 2 out of 10 times. But how long before he's figured out by international batsmen and bowlers? Ask Mushfiq Babu and the significantly more capable Farhad Reza about their rise and fall and you'll know why.

Zia is a temporary solution at best as long as he remains a mystery. Potentially better seamers with genuine batting ability will replace him as soon as they learn to bowl more accurately without compromising better pace and swing, and fight through being rattled as they will surely be on many occasions, and come back strong. Both Raju and Babu and even Reza, "Dolar", Robin and Tapash fit that bill.

Koushik and even Shuhash can do what Zia can better and with a higher success rate. My two cents.


U are so obsessed with using players nick name or in bengali daak naam.
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Old December 27, 2012, 10:05 AM
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Old December 27, 2012, 10:15 AM
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Must in ODIs. 123 in 106 balls with 11 sixes is just

Excellent slogger.
You don't make a century by slogging....If that's so...then TI is a little better slogger by performance... Hope he can do as good slogging as TI in future...that will make this guy a much more valuable player, with his bowling ability in LOIs....
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