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Old January 23, 2016, 01:49 AM
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Default Right Experiment, Wrong Ingredients and the way forward

So BCB’s rather costly but much needed experiment has come to an end. Despite the result and the public outrage, the experiment in general does have a conclusion which means it hasn’t all gone wrong. At least we know how well or otherwise our backups are in this format and how much more they need to work on to become international ready. Fairly speaking, none of the recent recruits have been successful for BCB. The timing was right, opponent was perfect but the squad wasn’t. Now the squad selection mistake is a never ending argument between fans but in this case it is obvious and evident. To avoid the squad selection errors, BCB painstakingly brought back the Bangladesh Premier League to allow all the local prospects a chance to showcase their talent in this format. Even though the tournament ended without any hiccups, it failed to showcase any hidden talent or X factor that BCB were looking for. This is specially true for batting where the locals failed to perform barring a few. Now armed with the statistic of a three week long tournament, the selection panel gifted us a side or rather a combination of sides for this rather unimportant series against Zimbabwe.

The squad had question marks here and there but they multiplied after the second T20 when few of the performers were rested and replaced by some debutants. Ok, maybe the selection of players like Shuvagata Hom, Imrul Kayes, Shahid, Abu Hider Rony cannot really be questioned since they managed to perform in the BPL upto an extent. However, what can be questioned however is the inclusion of players like Mosaddek Hossain and Mukhtar Ali who were probably more surprised to wear the national colors without really deserving it. These two were one of the biggest “busts” in the BPL and they barely managed to crack into their respective domestic sides. But here they were, handed a debut over so many others that deserved it much more than they did. This is where things started to go terribly wrong for the team.

Now some of you must be wondering, if not them, who deserved to make a debut this week more than these glorified bits and pieces players? Remember Shahriar Nafees? Yea the guy who used to play for the team like a zillion years ago but fell apart due to inconsistency and major flaws in technique. However, he did manage to perform towards the end of BPL and made a couple of crucial knocks when the team needed him. Was it enough to bring him back for good? Probably not but did he deserve a call up to the preliminary squad at the very least? Definitely! So why was he overlooked? Alas its his age! Now 30 is the prime age for other cricket teams because naturally by the time a player gets to his 30, he has had plenty of experience, time to rectify whatever flaws and at the same time the mental and physical fitness required to excel at this format. But wait! That’s the case for our selection panel. For us, 30 is the retirement/ rejected for live age and this is not me making assumptions, this came from our chief selector Mr. Faruq who said players like Kapali and Nafees are not even in his “C” or “D” plans. That’s a pretty bold statement sir and that too towards the players who are ten times the player you were ever! Speaking of Alok Kapali, another player who has every right to be upset after he failed to make it to the preliminary squad for any format despite performing very well in the local tournaments. Our side is in need of a lower order pinch hitter and even though BCB went through a dozen of them and failed, the name of Alok Kapali never popped up anywhere despite the reputation of an explosive hitter for quite some time now. Lastly and most importantly, the player who has been performing for the longest time in this format and yet ignored like a shadow is the slow left arm spinner Mosharraf Hossain Rubel. Clearly the best T20 spinner in the country, it is absolutely mind boggling how his name failed to pop up. Again, one can only assume that his age of 34 maybe an issue and the selectors are apparently looking for future prospects! What cares what happens in the present?

To the selectors and mainly Mr. Faruq, do us a favor and watch how selection process works in international cricket.

To Alok Kapali, Shahriar Nafees and Mosharraf Rubel, maybe you guys should just retire and try something else. Your presence in the domestic competition is giving an unfair lift in terms of the quality of performance and BCB is exploiting it. Those double tons, those match winning knocks does not mean jack anymore.

Ok enough of me complaining about selection. Like I mentioned, the experiment was due and the timing was perfect. This series reassured that players like Tamim, Shabbir, Riyad, Al Amin are still good enough for this format despite their recent dips or poor stats. More importantly, their substitutes are far worse so pointing fingers at these players are unjustified. Right now, it seems like that the second opening slot is a worry as Soumya Sarkar, one of the stars of Bangladesh cricket from 2015 has failed to convert his ODI heroics onto T20. After failing for the entire duration of BPL, Soumya showed a lot of flaws and lack of temperament for T20. Fortunately for him, he has no competition. Imrul Kayes, Tamim’s Test partner failed to convert his BPL form onto internationals and players like Nafees did not even get selected. There is Liton Das who made the squad but his performance in BPL and previously with the national side showed nothing to put him ahead of Soumya. Among the players that have an outside chance of making it in the squad is Mohammed Mithun who had a few good starts in BPL. Whether his service is needed in the top order can be debatable but he wouldn’t be a bad inclusion at all. Now there will be a battle between Nurul Hasan and Nasir Hossain strangely enough as one is a wicket keeper batsman and other a batting allrounder. But once Mushfiqur Rahim returns, there will be a slot left for one additional player and that could go to either of them. Nurul has been a decent inclusion and looked sharp behind the wicket but his batting has shown signs of inexperience where Nasir Hossain seems to be going a downward slope in form so to an extent, picking either of them would be a gamble which is more likely to fail. Maybe Nasir’s bowling will be given a preference seeing the lack of spinners in the side. The pace department should include our skipper, Mustafizur Rahman and Al Amin Hossain. Picking anyone else for the starting XI will be a huge gamble. It seems like Arafat Sunny is also another player with no competitor thanks to the brilliant selection by the panel. We just have to hope he performs because part timers like Riyad and Shabbir aren’t good enough backups for this format.

Also, I would request our team management to cut short all the experiments and go into the Asia Cup with full force as it is no less important than the World Cup itself. We had an atrocious last Asia Cup and it is high time we take this competition seriously. Winning the World Cup is out of the cards with loop holes all over the place and unfamiliar conditions, but with home advantage in place, the Asia Champion title shouldn’t be out of reach.

Finally, I hope BCB and the coaching staff do not repeat the mistakes of 2014 by relying solely on one or two individuals to perform. It happened before and I see it happening again. This time with Mustafizur Rahman. He seems to be the difference between the wins and losses against Zimbabwe and the coaching staff needs to make sure there are more match winners then just one. Afterall, it isn’t exactly Tennis!

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Old January 23, 2016, 04:18 AM
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excelent, front page material.

the selection of mossadek was a total blunder from bcb, T20 wasnt his format and he is too good of a player to be given an experimental match in his least fev format
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Old January 23, 2016, 07:12 AM
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Nasir Hossain's bowling was heavily missed.
Mosharrof Hossain's bowling was heavily missed.
Kapali and Nafees was needed.

Age should not be a factor in T20 selection EVER. you have guys like Brad Hodge playing T20 into their early 40s that should tell you something....
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Old January 23, 2016, 10:14 AM
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After a long time a good read on BC, nicely constructed, exactly my thought, dont understand why players like Kapali, Nsfees, Jahirul cant even be checked in this format as they r experienced enough to understand the situation and try hard to provide something to the team rather than all newcomers.
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Old January 23, 2016, 11:26 AM
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Front page worthy!!
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Old January 23, 2016, 11:38 AM
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To OP rinathq, edit the 1st sentence in the 2nd paragraph.

Shouldn't it be 2nd T20I instead of 2nd ODI?

Great read nevertheless. I was hoping that they would have added jahirul, Nafees, and even Abul into the squad for the recently concluded series against Zimbabwe....

But experimentation sometimes lead to disasters...it's deeply rooted into the psyche of human behavior.
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Old January 23, 2016, 12:41 PM
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excelent, front page material.

the selection of mossadek was a total blunder from bcb, T20 wasnt his format and he is too good of a player to be given an experimental match in his least fev format
Yup... I was hoping to see him against Zimbabwe later this year for the test series... Knowing our thinking process, he might not be given the cap given his T20 stint
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Old January 23, 2016, 12:42 PM
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To OP rinathq, edit the 1st sentence in the 2nd paragraph.

Shouldn't it be 2nd T20I instead of 2nd ODI?

Great read nevertheless. I was hoping that they would have added jahirul, Nafees, and even Abul into the squad for the recently concluded series against Zimbabwe....

But experimentation sometimes lead to disasters...it's deeply rooted into the psyche of human behavior.
Fixed.... Thanks!
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Very nicely written! I agree with pretty much everything. It's indeed sad to see how BCB just discards players that are past a certain age even if they are fit and even better than some of the national team regulars.
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Like I said in some other thread, in T20s form over potential any day of the week. Shahriar Nafees has been in great form but instead of picking Nafees, we pick someone like Soumya and Hom in tests based on WHAT?

And I completely forgot about MHR. How can you forget Mosharraf when he has been one of the best spinner in domestic T20s but you would rather go with 4 frontline pace bowler strategy in WT20s. Look at how Shahid and Mashrafe's slow medium paced got annihilated, yes annihilated against the Masakadza and Sibanda. And do you expect them to get hit less by world class batsman like Guptill and Willamson?

We picked Mosaddek because he has potential? What does potential mean in T20s? Nothing. The only thing matter in T20s is what the player is able to do in his short tenure. A player in good form can easily win you matches more than a world class player off-form. Now tell me who won more matches for Barisal Bulls- Shabbir or Riad. Riad definitely! Because of form something Shabbir lacked throughout the BPL.

MHR, Shahriar Nafees, Kapali definitely deserved to get a look. We have 1 specialist spinner in our preliminary squad of 25! Now as much as I love Mashrafe, I am starting to feel that he is not giving enough importance to his spinners. Play to your strength and to the conditions. Spin has always been our strong zone but I refused to believe that our spinners are as ordinary as they have looked in the past.

The spinners have been forced to bowl flat because there is never a slip in place, barely a fielder in the squarish mid wicket region. Also, asking the spinners to bowl at the death is a poor idea. Sunny, Shakib they should be bowing between overs 6 to 15 but Mashrafe usually bowls himself in this period. This is where Mash is becoming a liability. He should bowl 3 overs in the powerplay and get rid of it. His medium pace won't do good when you will expect the spinners to bowl or even at the death.

Obviously, the selectors aren't doing justice either. Why won't you test Taijul or Mosharraf against Zimbabwe?! We will be facing Netherlands and Ireland who can't play spin for jack, and the likes of Myburh, KOB, and few others will wreak havoc against this gentle medium pacers.
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This is a kind of scenario where I feel Riad should be the captain of the side ahead of Mashrafe. Riad being a part-time spinner and a full time batsman won't have any particular bias and will use both his spinners and pacers to full use like he did in the BPL, where he made good use of Taijul, Prasanna(part timer) even when he had a quality pace attack of cooper, Al Amin, Sami. No wonder he was able to take his team so far with such a mediocre squad.

This is ofcourse for T20s. The only thing that helps Mashrafe here is that his lusty blows at the end really helps us
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And I completely forgot about MHR. How can you forget Mosharraf when he has been one of the best spinner in domestic T20s but you would rather go with 4 frontline pace bowler strategy in WT20s. Look at how Shahid and Mashrafe's slow medium paced got annihilated, yes annihilated against the Masakadza and Sibanda. And do you expect them to get hit less by world class batsman like Guptill and Willamson?


Obviously, the selectors aren't doing justice either. Why won't you test Taijul or Mosharraf against Zimbabwe?! We will be facing Netherlands and Ireland who can't play spin for jack, and the likes of Myburh, KOB, and few others will wreak havoc against this gentle medium pacers.
Yea I was completely shell shocked to see only 1 spinner picked for Asia Cup which will be hosted at home and the WC which will be in India! I mean we picked more spinners for the WC in Australia! We have a habit of overdoing everything. There was a time when the preliminary squad would be jacked up with 5-6 spinners and now we are doing the same with seamers. Spin is still our strength and it does not help when we completely ignore it. There is no rule saying you have to ignore one type of bowling to prioritize the other. 4 seamers in our flat conditions is over doing it. Both Haturida and Mash seems to rely on the part timers for their spin options and even though that may work at ODI, it will never work for T20 cricket. In T20 cricket, one bad over ruins the game and here we are trying to "squeeze" in like 3-4 overs of part timers!
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And what happens when your spinners are all part timers, they are forced to bowl in pressure situations where they end up giving away the match to the opposition just like Nasir last year vs Zim and even in the last match Sabbir and Riad went for few runs which could have made the difference.

We all love Haturi but not having spinners in the squad when you have a dearth of them in the domestics and you are planning to go to a WC in India which will be dominated by spinners. It will be embarassing when teams have specialist spinners

England- Adil Rashid, Moeen Ali
SA- Tahir, Phangiso
Aus- not sure but lyon may make the cut
NZ- Ish Sodhi, Santner
Zim- Chisoro, Cremer

And these teams aren't known for their spin bowling and what we are going to do, is play 4 pacers and play the game right into the hands of the opposition. Our main target is to go the first round and our opposition are Oman, Dutch and Ireland. Oman can be ignored for not but the other 2 teams are excellent vs Pacemen and weak vs Spin.

Are we really going to face Ireland and Netherlands without spinners? Can someone show the video of the WC 2011 where we choked both teams with our spinners? Our success vs Pakistan was mainly thanks to Shakib and Arafat, as for SA-India, it was Mustafiz's novelty factor.

Hom, Riad, Nasir are fine by part-time standards, but if they are going to be bowling at the death expect them to have figures of 2-0-30-0 and we end up chasing 180 which we can't chase in our dreams. This nonsense has to stop. Haturi, Mash and selectors completely losing the plot!
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good thread,intersting discussions.

I personally would have liked to see Jahurul & Mosharraf in this Zim series.
I'm not interested in Alok & SN because I DONT TRUST THEIR ABILITIES much.
I like the idea of going with as many pacers as possible because I think our spinners apart from Sakib are pretty easily hit-able in this format.
Nasir looked like a smart spin bowler (not for death bowling)

If we win T20 matches we will win thanks to our bowlers & fielders, if we compare our batters with those of any other Test playing team we realize how far behind we are, our best chance is to restrict any team under 170 and pray our batters chase it down or batting first and pray somehow we get a 170-ish total and defend it.

My bowlers will be Mash,Musta,Al A, Hider/Taskeen , SAkib

Another big question is has Nurul cemented his place as a keeper or will it be more interesting to have Mushy as keeper and include a bowling AR like Nasir( who is an asset in our fielding drtmnt which looks poor ?
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I want Abul in the team. He was part of sangakarra's enforcement team.
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This is what Paap-on khalu said about our pacers

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Why did he not mention A Amin? is he going to get dropped again ?
And he insisted to play Tamim for the 4th T20, he was unhappy with 4 new players for 3rd T20.
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Great post.

I think Faruque is undoing the good work done in the last few years.

The decision to "Experiment" was an utter joke. And he is sending the wrong message to the players-that by just doing a little bit you can get into the national team. And once they dont perform, he wont hesitating taking a swing with the sword just like he did with Liton Das.

Personally think Mosharraf Hossain should have been given a go. Probably the most experienced spinner in the circuit, and he never disappoints in T20. Maybe Faruque is thinking Mosharraf is an old guy, not worth investing in him. But this is a format that requires special players sometimes, like we ve seen Australia do by bringing a retired Brad Hogg, or Pakistan bringing in Zulfiquar Babar, West Indies trying out Samuel Badree. Even Rajasthan Royal playing Pravin Tambe is another example.
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This is what Paap-on khalu said about our pacers



Why did he not mention A Amin? is he going to get dropped again ?
And he insisted to play Tamim for the 4th T20, he was unhappy with 4 new players for 3rd T20.
http://www.prothom-alo.com/sports/ar...A7%81%E0%A6%B2
I am sure Al amin is in contention.

Papon is right to poke his nose in. We are going to go to the world cup with 4 pacer strategy against Netherland and Ireland who are clearly weak against spin. But wait, our so-called "expert" selectors, Mashrafe the genius and Haturi knows better so better we go with 4-5 pacers and do what, yes, make them bowl with the keeper upto the stumps completely negating their ability to swing the ball, bowl mean yorkers, bouncers.
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