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Old August 18, 2012, 12:03 AM
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Riyad's action is a nice and smooth so i doubt he will be able to bowl the doosra as it requires an element of a bent elbow when bowling. Razzak IMO will is the best bet to be able to this delivery if he is able to master it.
if Razzak can learn how to spin the ball properly, I would be happy. Let alone doosra.
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Old August 18, 2012, 12:11 AM
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Srsly, where is sunny? And are these guys practicing even while fasting? They should consider fasting 1st, then if possible training
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Old August 18, 2012, 12:12 AM
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Not sure teaching razzak the doorsa is a good idea, he has enough troubles keeping his normal action legal.
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Old August 18, 2012, 12:47 AM
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Forget doosra, the guys first need to learn the basics. The best spinners of the world rely more on flight than turn or unorthodox deliveries. Think Warne, Murali, Harbhajan, Swann. They all beat the batsmen with flight. This makes them potent in any kind of wicket.

T20 in a way has messed up spinners around the world. Now every spinner tries to bowl with a flatter trajectory, and quicker through the air. They become predictable and easy to play. Some of our bowlers also show these symptoms. When he started Shakib used to give the ball a lot of air, which would enable him to extract turn-aggressive attacking spin bowling. But off late he hasnt had much success due to his defensive approach. This is what i hope Saqlain can change-not just in Shakib but all the other bowlers too
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Old August 18, 2012, 01:15 AM
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if Razzak can learn how to spin the ball properly, I would be happy. Let alone doosra.
I'll be happy if he stops bowling those misti misti deliveries down the leg side. Beshi kisu lagbe na
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Old August 19, 2012, 12:52 PM
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Alhamdulillah Saqlain Mushtaq is spending his 6 days of Eid holiday in the path of Allah SUbhanatala. Now he is in Tangail.
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Old August 24, 2012, 04:48 AM
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A wicket off his first ball, and 13 sixes in a T20 posted by cricinfo recently does a little profile on elias sunny.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/578996.html
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Old August 27, 2012, 01:36 AM
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i really think bcb should tie down him with long-term contracts..
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Old August 27, 2012, 02:01 AM
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Interesting but not at all surprising that he picked a one-trick-pony/blind slogger like ZiRa to demonstrate the delivery.

I'm looking forward to witnessing the actual impact his coaching may have on our bowlers and batsmen who have difficulty playing quality spin.
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Old August 27, 2012, 11:26 AM
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eishob totka photka shikhanor jonno naki Saqlain re anchi
Sir Ash shei kobe ei delivery diya De Villiers re fool banailo.
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Old August 27, 2012, 03:49 PM
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^ I wonder how come he could not produce the same during all these years after that! That ball just slipped his hand
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Old August 27, 2012, 03:52 PM
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BCB should tie him up with a long term contract immediately...
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Old August 29, 2012, 05:47 PM
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who thinks saqlain's bowling action does not look right?
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Old August 29, 2012, 08:08 PM
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who thinks saqlain's bowling action does not look right?
Apparently you;

BTW: It seems like PCB is planning to appoint Saqlain to their coaching team. He is also in discussion to set up a cricket academy with fellow 'Englishman' Azhar Mahmood and Akram..
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Old August 29, 2012, 11:58 PM
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Looks like PCB wants all our ex coaches. Hope we can tie him down on a longer stint.
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Old August 30, 2012, 12:21 AM
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Have the BD spinners had enough time and matches fir us to really know how much of a difference saqlain has made? If he's helping then yes get him long term.
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Old August 30, 2012, 05:46 AM
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Gowza, surprisingly i saw a slight change in Mahmudullah in SLPL. Saqlain has supposedly spent some time with him. In the couple of matches he played, he was bowling with a lot more confidence and intent. Nothing dramatically different in action and delivery, but mindset seemed more positive. He actually wanted to attack and get wickets.
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Old August 30, 2012, 08:45 AM
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Gowza, surprisingly i saw a slight change in Mahmudullah in SLPL. Saqlain has supposedly spent some time with him. In the couple of matches he played, he was bowling with a lot more confidence and intent. Nothing dramatically different in action and delivery, but mindset seemed more positive. He actually wanted to attack and get wickets.
Bouer ador and hujurer doa...Mullah becomes baper beta...hope he becomes more hungrier and also contribute with bat too
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Old September 21, 2012, 07:32 AM
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There have been no noticeable improvement with the spinners so far as I've seen. Is it too early for Saqlain to make an impact or is it just the wicket? Granted Kalam bhai went kamikaze on us, but the spinners weren't penetrative enough and economical enough. I mean, Riyad seems to have become worse and here I thought he has become Doosraullah!
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Old September 21, 2012, 09:22 AM
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These spinners are even more clueless than they ever were before. Saqlain has been a waste of money.
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Old September 21, 2012, 09:27 AM
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TBH this pitch was not suited for spin at all, you can't expect our spin quartet to pull a miracle out of thin air. Razzak has been doing decently last few matches, but always get pummeled in his last over, during the death overs, and Shak seems out of form with his bowling lately. Mahmudullah was only used for one over today anyways0, no point in blaming Saqlain.
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^^ agreed... wasnt a turning pitch at all...

I failed to notice a single Elias Sunny delivery that had a noticeable turn. Razzak/Shak got sth, but too little to even make the batsmen change/adjust their line of shot...
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TBH this pitch was not suited for spin at all, you can't expect our spin quartet to pull a miracle out of thin air. Razzak has been doing decently last few matches, but always get pummeled in his last over, during the death overs, and Shak seems out of form with his bowling lately. Mahmudullah was only used for one over today anyways0, no point in blaming Saqlain.
Did you see how N.Mc bowled on this track?
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Old September 21, 2012, 12:36 PM
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Looks like Saqlain is not a good fit for this team. He had no control over his spinners. He failed to teach them how to handle pressure situation on this not so spin friendly track.
Coaching is 75% strategy and gameplan at the highest level.
He should coach at Academy or age group level. Thats where he will make an impact.
Very same reason he was not retained for too long at NZ, PAK, AUS...
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Old September 21, 2012, 12:53 PM
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Did you see how N.Mc bowled on this track?
Our spinners know how to spin a ball, maybe the pitch changed over the course of the match or N.Mc was able to do something not even our experience spinners couldn't do
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