England Vs South Africa 2012 - Page 3

cricheart · #51 July 23, 2012, 09:20 AM

Steyn took five with Swann now. England in verge of a innings defeat here.
England trail by 34 runs with 1 wicket remaining only.

Gowza · #52 July 23, 2012, 09:23 AM

steyn proving why he is the best fast bowler atm.

shuziburo · #53 July 23, 2012, 11:07 AM

Can't even fathom the enormity of this feat! It is hard enough staying inside. This man fasts and scores an unbeaten 300. I used to think Bradman's 309 in a day was the most superhuman feat, but Amla's 311* has to be up there...

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Roja rekhe 300+ kora, talk about achievement.

Tintin · #54 July 23, 2012, 11:28 AM

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Can't even fathom the enormity of this feat! It is hard enough staying inside. This man fasts and scores an unbeaten 300. I used to think Bradman's 309 in a day was the most superhuman feat, but Amla's 311* has to be up there...

Amla and Tahir do not fast on match days.

And to add a little perspective to Bradman's 309* in a day, the overrates used to be extremely high in those days. The 309* was scored in 134 overs. If the day's play had ended after 90 overs, he would have been 211* in 281 balls.

kiwibd · #55 July 23, 2012, 01:37 PM

Kallis overtakes Shakib as Number 1 allrounder in Test Matches.

Kohli_Sox · #56 July 23, 2012, 03:00 PM

Surprised to see England lost by innings margin; SA played very very well and hold their nerves in crucial moments. Although the first day went good for England but SA outplayed them over the next days. Expecting to see a comeback from England in the remaining matches though

Gowza · #57 July 23, 2012, 05:25 PM

steyn was the big difference really, RSA would not have won if it wasn't for his late burst of wickets. of course RSA batted tremendously well to. was impressed by imran tahir though, he's quite a decent leggy.

Dilscoop · #58 July 23, 2012, 07:23 PM

Dale Styen should've been the MoM. This test was headed for a draw. Thanks to some aggressive bowling on day 4, we saw a result. That's why these days most of this type of games end up in draw, esp involving subcon teams with dead-bowlers.

I have doubt this would've happened if Eng had bowled on day 4.

Dilscoop · #59 July 23, 2012, 07:25 PM

England couldn't score 600 runs for 20 wickets, SA scored 636/1 (they were 1/1).

Gowza · #60 July 23, 2012, 07:36 PM

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Dale Styen should've been the MoM. This test was headed for a draw. Thanks to some aggressive bowling on day 4, we saw a result. That's why these days most of this type of games end up in draw, esp involving subcon teams with dead-bowlers.

I have doubt this would've happened if Eng had bowled on day 4.

yes i agree with you, the england attack has done very well over the last 2 years but that just don't seem to have and real true strike bowler, someone they can turn to in situations like RSA were at the end of day 4/day 5 in this test match.

Jadukor · #61 July 23, 2012, 10:59 PM

I think England need Finn in the attack to add some steep bounce and venom. They also need to gamble on a much more lively wicket that would provide the edge for their bowlers. I think the next test could be even more enjoyable viewing if the pitch starts providing assistance to swing and seam movement.

Gowza · #62 July 23, 2012, 11:03 PM

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I think England need Finn in the attack to add some steep bounce and venom. They also need to gamble on a much more lively wicket that would provide the edge for their bowlers. I think the next test could be even more enjoyable viewing if the pitch starts providing assistance to swing and seam movement.

yes definitely, get finn in there! he's quite possibly the most exciting prospect going around world cricket atm, he's right up there with the likes of pattinson, cummins and de lange, possibly even better.

Dilscoop · #63 July 24, 2012, 01:17 AM

lol

Tiger444 · #64 July 29, 2012, 06:01 PM

James Taylor has been picked for the 2nd Test match for Bopara. Really excited to see he's in the squad. Personally I thought he should have been picked against the WI ahead of Bairstow. Such a young man and has 12 FC centuries. Hopefully he doesn't end up like Hughes who was another prodigy but had a tough time.

Gowza · #65 July 29, 2012, 06:56 PM

well hughes was wrecked because people picked at his game despite doing well and so he tried to change his game and it just screwed him up.

taylor probably should have been picked against WI, would have been an easier introduction to test cricket but facing SA in his first test series will set his standard so it could be a good thing.

Tiger444 · #66 July 29, 2012, 10:45 PM

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well hughes was wrecked because people picked at his game despite doing well and so he tried to change his game and it just screwed him up.

taylor probably should have been picked against WI, would have been an easier introduction to test cricket but facing SA in his first test series will set his standard so it could be a good thing.

Ya despite Hughes scoring 2 centuries against the SA attack, the coaches thought they needed to change Hughes still.

I still don't understand why Hughes isn't in the team though because he still seems to be the best young batsman besides Warner in the Australian team.

I think the key is for England to not make the same mistake that Australia did with Hughes and that's change his game. If they let Taylor play his natural game, I see him being successful in international cricket.

Gowza · #67 July 30, 2012, 02:33 AM

i think hughes isn't in the team because they were using watson as opener, warner came into the frame and did well, cowan did ok but he has people backing him so he's high on the list, combine that with hughes not being as prolific as he was domestically once he got dropped from the aussie side and that's why he's not in there atm.

i agree with you, i think hughes should be in there, however i will say that he was visibly hesitant and a lot less positive once they tried to change his game, he doesn't look as good at the crease anymore and that's probably another reason why he's not in the side. but like you say he should be.

Tiger444 · #68 July 30, 2012, 07:16 AM

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i think hughes isn't in the team because they were using watson as opener, warner came into the frame and did well, cowan did ok but he has people backing him so he's high on the list, combine that with hughes not being as prolific as he was domestically once he got dropped from the aussie side and that's why he's not in there atm.

i agree with you, i think hughes should be in there, however i will say that he was visibly hesitant and a lot less positive once they tried to change his game, he doesn't look as good at the crease anymore and that's probably another reason why he's not in the side. but like you say he should be.

I think the Aussie selectors got it all wrong to be honest. They had him in just as a Test specialist. Look at the way he's scoring in the shorter forms in Counties. It's very hard to keep your form up in Tests, especially when your a young player and it would have helped his confidence had he been playing in the shorter forms. For example, Pieterson was awful in the Pakistan Tests but in the ODI's, he scored heavily and then he went back to his scoring ways in Tests.

Gowza · #69 July 30, 2012, 07:25 PM

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I think the Aussie selectors got it all wrong to be honest. They had him in just as a Test specialist. Look at the way he's scoring in the shorter forms in Counties. It's very hard to keep your form up in Tests, especially when your a young player and it would have helped his confidence had he been playing in the shorter forms. For example, Pieterson was awful in the Pakistan Tests but in the ODI's, he scored heavily and then he went back to his scoring ways in Tests.

yeah probably, and to think pietersen only has tests now, will be harder for him i think...

Jadukor · #70 July 30, 2012, 11:40 PM

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yeah probably, and to think pietersen only has tests now, will be harder for him i think...

It will definitely be harder with all the long breaks between Tests. Still feels like a strange decision by Pietersen

chinaman_f · #71 August 1, 2012, 12:59 PM

So, James Taylor is getting a cap tomorrow, looking forward to that. Heard he made a 163 in his last first class match, so he should be tails up.

Gowza · #72 August 1, 2012, 09:08 PM

james taylor is a terrific prospect, scored at every level pretty much, he's early 20s, played quite a number of FC and list A matches and for FC stats he's averaging nearly 50 with the bat. he is one of the best young prospects in the world right now, good chance in 10 years he will be averaging near 50 in tests and 100 matches.

like flower i want him to make this #6 position his, he should get an extended run here.

Gowza · #73 August 2, 2012, 01:45 AM

btw i'm hoping finn will play but i doubt he will, shame really, his talents are going to waste and his development is being hindered.

nadim 98 · #74 August 2, 2012, 05:05 AM

Wow! Swann left out

Finn in. gd Call. much better bowler than Broad and Anderson imho. Have Pace, Bounce and swing of course.

nadim 98 · #75 August 2, 2012, 05:27 AM

Finn should have share the new ball with Anderson. Broad is much better bowler with the old. England made a mess