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Old October 23, 2013, 05:15 AM
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Shakib should be given the captaincy. Forget the cricket sense Mushy lacks common sense. The coach should take most of the blame for letting him making the same mistake over and over. Never seen this such idiocy under any other coach...

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Old October 23, 2013, 05:17 AM
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he is the dumbest captain we have ever had period

he tops even HaBa and Motin
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Old October 23, 2013, 05:40 AM
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he is the dumbest captain we have ever had period

he tops even HaBa and Motin
The world cricket is watching the funniest incident of repeating in two consecutive tests. Now Sodhi is going to make a hundred. Bravo!
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Old October 23, 2013, 05:46 AM
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Motin wasn't such a bad captain. Having said that, out HaBafying HaBa is no small feat either. All hail MushFixur Rahim, geniOUs.
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Old October 23, 2013, 06:23 AM
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Bowling rotation was not good. He needs to think more. The coach should assist him in live matches whenever he gets a chance to send message.
The coach has become a obedient student under Mushy else he might lose his job. Mushy probably tells him what to do and picks the players at will. It does not appear this coach has any power or authority whatsoever. Hence you don't see him interacting with players or captain ever when the match is in progress...

That's why Dav Whatmore type coach is ideal for us who runs the team with authority and players actually listen when you have that type of personality and authority.

It has been far too long yet Mushy could not improve his captaincy skill under Shane....he needs help and guidance from a smart and experienced head coach/players like Steve Waugh, Imran Khan or Ganguly...
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Old October 23, 2013, 06:35 AM
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Spinning and bouncy track. We are better than NZ in spinning and bouncy track... blah blah blah. All strategic analysis falls flat if the captain is not aggressive when you need a wicket. Highschool cricket.
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Old October 23, 2013, 07:06 AM
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Bad bowling and drop catches that's what made Mushy's captaincy look bad. But Mushy has to take the blame as well. What a waste of a chance. All the players just went through the motion. I really can't understand why the hell Mushy took off Nasir just right after he got a wicket ?
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Old October 23, 2013, 01:23 PM
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Bring back Shakib as the captain.

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Old October 23, 2013, 01:42 PM
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we need an imran khan

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Old October 23, 2013, 02:17 PM
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Bad bowling and drop catches that's what made Mushy's captaincy look bad. But Mushy has to take the blame as well. What a waste of a chance. All the players just went through the motion. I really can't understand why the hell Mushy took off Nasir just right after he got a wicket ?
Mushy don't like part-timers!
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Old October 23, 2013, 04:07 PM
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Bad bowling and drop catches that's what made Mushy's captaincy look bad. But Mushy has to take the blame as well. What a waste of a chance. All the players just went through the motion. I really can't understand why the hell Mushy took off Nasir just right after he got a wicket ?
নাসিরের এর পর আর বল না করার কারণটা বেশ মজার, ‘মুশফিক ভাই আমাকে বোলিংয়ে আনেনই ব্রেক থ্রুর জন্য। উইকেট পেলে আমি নিজেই বলি যে আমি আর বোলিং করব না।’

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Old October 23, 2013, 04:41 PM
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নাসিরের এর পর আর বল না করার কারণটা বেশ মজার, ‘মুশফিক ভাই আমাকে বোলিংয়ে আনেনই ব্রেক থ্রুর জন্য। উইকেট পেলে আমি নিজেই বলি যে আমি আর বোলিং করব না।’

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bah bah Nasir deserve to be the captain if clemon indoor cricket for this comment


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Old October 23, 2013, 05:30 PM
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নাসিরের এর পর আর বল না করার কারণটা বেশ মজার, ‘মুশফিক ভাই আমাকে বোলিংয়ে আনেনই ব্রেক থ্রুর জন্য। উইকেট পেলে আমি নিজেই বলি যে আমি আর বোলিং করব না।’

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Bacahanor chesta ar tel dewar jaiga Pailana ...captain has to take responsibility for his non innovative approach... Nasir bole keep batting till 5 th day morning... 130 overs... Comn 50 overs porjonto tiko kina doubt
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Old October 23, 2013, 05:50 PM
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Very disappointed with Mushy's captaincy. Making the same mistakes over and over and over. He's doing a bad job at being captain, okay, but at least hold on to the catches *facepalm*
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Old October 23, 2013, 08:18 PM
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নাসিরের এর পর আর বল না করার কারণটা বেশ মজার, ‘মুশফিক ভাই আমাকে বোলিংয়ে আনেনই ব্রেক থ্রুর জন্য। উইকেট পেলে আমি নিজেই বলি যে আমি আর বোলিং করব না।’

Asholei mojar excuse

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Old October 23, 2013, 09:03 PM
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What can we expect when he asked Gazi against Zimbabwe that, "tighten up your lines and they'll give their wickets away." That line and his decisions from bowling and field changes show that his thought process is more for ODIs rather than Tests. For a team like us, since we're a limited side, especially in bowling, we need a quick thinking captain. Instead he just seems to go through the motions and plays it way too defensive.

I'll credit him for team unity and man management but Shakibs fire and intensity is what we need IMO. He was a more aggressive captain in his field settings. I'm sure he's matured now and learned from his previous mistakes so it's something to definitely think about to give the captaincy back. Either that or we have to hope Mushy improves on his captaincy decisions which I doubt since it seems he still hasn't learned.
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Old October 23, 2013, 09:42 PM
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Bad bowling and drop catches that's what made Mushy's captaincy look bad. But Mushy has to take the blame as well. What a waste of a chance. All the players just went through the motion. I really can't understand why the hell Mushy took off Nasir just right after he got a wicket ?
No other captaincy options. That is the sad truth. Mushy did try to resign after Zimbabwe so to be fair to him perhaps he hates the job as much as we hate to see him do it. We are stuck with Mushy for the foreseeable future until a consistent player like Nasir matures and becomes ready
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Old October 23, 2013, 09:45 PM
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No other captaincy options. That is the sad truth. Mushy did try to resign after Zimbabwe so to be fair to him perhaps he hates the job as much as we hate to see him do it. We are stuck with Mushy for the foreseeable future until a consistent player like Nasir matures and becomes ready
Shakib?

Was a better captain that Mushfiqur, ain't?
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Old October 23, 2013, 09:50 PM
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What can we expect when he asked Gazi against Zimbabwe that, "tighten up your lines and they'll give their wickets away." That line and his decisions from bowling and field changes show that his thought process is more for ODIs rather than Tests. For a team like us, since we're a limited side, especially in bowling, we need a quick thinking captain. Instead he just seems to go through the motions and plays it way too defensive.

I'll credit him for team unity and man management but Shakibs fire and intensity is what we need IMO. He was a more aggressive captain in his field settings. I'm sure he's matured now and learned from his previous mistakes so it's something to definitely think about to give the captaincy back. Either that or we have to hope Mushy improves on his captaincy decisions which I doubt since it seems he still hasn't learned.
Giving it back to Shakib is not an option for me. When we sacked Shak and Tamim for Mushy and Ryad we closed that door at least for the near term. We had given Shak all the support and freedom he needed while he was captain during the world cup at home in 2011. That didn't bring any results, we failed to reach second round and so even if we make him captain there is no guarantee he would be motivated enough to lift the side.

The problem we face is that of cultures as well. We have this junior and senior thing where it is difficult for somebody like Nasir to be made captain. When you look at the South African team, they had no issues giving the captaincy to a very young Graeme Smith who has done a tremendous job over the years as captain. Not sure if we can make that kind of decision with Nasir, Gazi, Mominul, Anamul etc...
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What can we expect when he asked Gazi against Zimbabwe that, "tighten up your lines and they'll give their wickets away." That line and his decisions from bowling and field changes show that his thought process is more for ODIs rather than Tests. For a team like us, since we're a limited side, especially in bowling, we need a quick thinking captain. Instead he just seems to go through the motions and plays it way too defensive.

I'll credit him for team unity and man management but Shakibs fire and intensity is what we need IMO. He was a more aggressive captain in his field settings. I'm sure he's matured now and learned from his previous mistakes so it's something to definitely think about to give the captaincy back. Either that or we have to hope Mushy improves on his captaincy decisions which I doubt since it seems he still hasn't learned.
Great post and I couldn't agree more. Good to see that many of us still care about competing and taking advantage of opportunities rather than blowing them for the sake of some elusive peace in the locker room. It's a sport that represents our nation, and needs to be regarded as such. Sadly though, many if not most cricket organizers share his defensive, thoughtless, rigid, counterproductive and utterly idiotic mindset.

We will continue to lose many, MANY more opportunities because of his brain-dead bowler management, match-losing choices, and field setting. He's an essential batsman for our team and should be relieved of all other responsibilities before hurting us more.
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Old October 23, 2013, 09:52 PM
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Giving it back to Shakib is not an option for me. When we sacked Shak and Tamim for Mushy and Ryad we closed that door at least for the near term. We had given Shak all the support and freedom he needed while he was captain during the world cup at home in 2011. That didn't bring any results, we failed to reach second round and so even if we make him captain there is no guarantee he would be motivated enough to lift the side.

The problem we face is that of cultures as well. We have this junior and senior thing where it is difficult for somebody like Nasir to be made captain. When you look at the South African team, they had no issues giving the captaincy to a very young Graham Smith who has done a tremendous job over the years as captain. Not sure if we make that kind of decision with Nasir, Gazi, Mominul, Anamul etc...
But BCB is foolish,ain't? If they close a door, it is due to a misjudgment which can be rectified. And this team is better than the 2011 one. So why not Shakib?
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Old October 23, 2013, 09:56 PM
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But BCB is foolish,ain't? If they close a door, it is due to a misjudgment which can be rectified. And this team is better than the 2011 one. So why not Shakib?
Out of all the cricketers Shakib clearly has the sharpest cricket brain. Now we are left with deciding whether we want a better man manager or a better tactician
Both are very important attributes for a captain and we are yet to find both in a single person.
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Giving it back to Shakib is not an option for me. When we sacked Shak and Tamim for Mushy and Ryad we closed that door at least for the near term. We had given Shak all the support and freedom he needed while he was captain during the world cup at home in 2011. That didn't bring any results, we failed to reach second round and so even if we make him captain there is no guarantee he would be motivated enough to lift the side.

The problem we face is that of cultures as well. We have this junior and senior thing where it is difficult for somebody like Nasir to be made captain. When you look at the South African team, they had no issues giving the captaincy to a very young Graeme Smith who has done a tremendous job over the years as captain. Not sure if we can make that kind of decision with Nasir, Gazi, Mominul, Anamul etc...
That team was very young. Average age of only 22 going in to a huge tournament like the WC in our backyard. That wasn't all Shakibs fault. Too much pressure for the boys and they folded. This team now is a lot more matured and we have improved a lot. That team, we relied mostly on Tamim and Shakib. Now we have more performers in the team so there won't be as much pressure as that time.

Again something to think about.
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Great post and I couldn't agree more. Good to see that many of us still care about competing and taking advantage of opportunities rather than blowing them for the sake of some elusive peace in the locker room. It's a sport that represents our nation, and needs to be regarded as such. Sadly though, many if not most cricket organizers share his defensive, thoughtless, rigid, counterproductive and utterly idiotic mindset.

We will continue to lose many, MANY more opportunities because of his brain-dead bowler management, match-losing choices, and field setting. He's an essential batsman for our team and should be relieved of all other responsibilities before hurting us more.
True. That ends up being the heart of the problem. It still seems the people involved in BD cricket fail to understand the basics of Tests and our players fail to understand them as well which is why we're still a struggling Test team.
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Old October 23, 2013, 10:10 PM
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If Shakib as captain works out for us then that would be great. It just brings memories of the divide in the team, skipping training sessions under siddons, going on newspaper rant against ex players etc. Even few days ago people were saying Shakib is past his prime/demotivated etc. A 5 wicket haul has changed that perception but it won't be long before that sentiment returns if He gets out to an ugly slog in the 2nd innings.

But i do hope you are right and he is more matured to do the job now
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