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Old September 26, 2012, 01:50 AM
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Great read. This is not an "insult," it is the truth.
Agree Dont konw about others but it is enough for me. Khali Shakib ar batting download kore bar bar repeat kore dekhe satisfied hoar ar iccha nai.
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Old September 26, 2012, 01:51 AM
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Here's how we know this is most likely not a piece of tough love. Bangladeshi posters at cricinfo got a mention. Has anyone seen that before? Clearly someone got under his skin and he's been waiting for a chance to put this article up. Just change the date. Indopak cricket fans ooze the worst kinds of bakwas, not even veiled as anything else...where's there mention after 0-8? Our last internationals appearance on a televised stage wouldn't work because it was the AC final. And immediately after, whoop there it is!
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Old September 26, 2012, 02:02 AM
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Stoopid article is stoopid. I haven't seen hardly anyone who hasn't been vehemently critical of Bangladesh team here. In fact I think I'm pretty much the only one who jumps in for their defense since I think they're being unfairly critical. Nothing constructive, I could've posted any ramblings of an angry BD fan, at least they would have a better perspective on things than this guy.

There's constructive criticism, and then there's idiotic ramblings about the shortcomings without any objectivity. This article belongs to the latter.
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Old September 26, 2012, 02:13 AM
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how is in this earth musfiq gonna say we have nothing to lose , i mean really ? after 13 years in international arena hes gonna say that ,
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Old September 26, 2012, 02:14 AM
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Nothing to say against the article. 100% Truth.
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Old September 26, 2012, 02:32 AM
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What are bengalis? Are they like gypsies?
Bengalis in the Anglicized form or 'Bangalees' in our own nomenclature, is what the people of Bangladesh are known as. That is the literal definition. You would know this if you'd ever read the Constitution of the People's Republic of Bangladesh (Article 6(2) if you're interested). It is also what the people of West Bengal and large communities in Assam, Tripura, etc. consider themselves to be.

Revolutions in Kolkata prompted revolutions in the erstwhile Dacca, Assam, etc. and vice versa. Revolutions that started in Park Circus in Kolkata would affect the rights of dock laborers in Chittagong and unrest in Sylhet would affect policy in Kolkata. Again, you'd know this if you'd ever take the time to read about the abolition of permanent settlement and peasant rebellions, the lives of Sher-e-Bangla Fazlul Haq and HM Suhrwardy and contemporaneous labor leaders, the early years of Maulana Bhashani, Bangabandhu, etc.

In sum, as Bangalees have always been at the vanguard of revolutions, the writer was using it as a literary device to call for a revolution in our cricket.
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Old September 26, 2012, 03:28 AM
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Good read..nicely put..I found his tone more of a frustrated fan than a critic...however this is more of a social problem...look around our society there is almost an obsession with mediocrity where most things are mediocre ..interms of cricket I still think we have more belief thann for example pre Watmore era..
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Old September 26, 2012, 03:41 AM
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one side of me says,this is good ,we need all the bashing & criticisms, we deserve it, it's the bitter truth, let our coaches/BCB & some players read this & reply in the field.
But then again this article sounds like coming from a fan (or a negative poster)
It was wrote on a purpose to raise questions about our team etc.
This is like "Dear BD( BD diss)" thread
Even if it was a BDeshi reporter we wouldn't take it positively.

But I'm more annoyed with our so called "tigers" for making opportunities to these reporters for "dissin" us.
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Old September 26, 2012, 03:56 AM
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Good read..nicely put..I found his tone more of a frustrated fan than a critic...however this is more of a social problem...look around our society there is almost an obsession with mediocrity where most things are mediocre ..interms of cricket I still think we have more belief thann for example pre Watmore era..
Yup same here. ESP. when I read the title, I thought "here we go again, here comes 'take away this, take away that' article." But it wasn't like that at all. But even if he is being a critic, I don't see why we should get angry at this. Lost to 5 club teams prior to WC and got trashed by NZ and Pak, followed by endless excuses and pathetic comments from the players. It's not shocking that someone said those things out loud (outside of BC).

Also, Navo cleared it out perfectly. Some people are just little too insecure.
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Old September 26, 2012, 04:46 AM
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Agree with dash!
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Old September 26, 2012, 05:03 AM
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In sum, as Bangalees have always been at the vanguard of revolutions, the writer was using it as a literary device to call for a revolution in our cricket.
Thats his stated objective. I don't buy it. I can't prove it, but we couldn't prove OJ did it either.

The author to me doesn't look like he follows BD cricket except to throw in a good left jab every now and then when we're down on the mat with the ref counting to 10. If he knew just how dominant Shakib is in our setup he wouldn't have asked where is our Pataudi or Ranatunga. He'd have known that Shakib is our Superman.

Further his sucker-punches at the fans and the media were about as classy as Mike Tyson telling female reporters he'd answer their questions only after they service him orally. To top it off, I highly doubt they're even true. Are we to believe that our media - however inept they might be at cricket reporting - are stupid enough to cheer inside edges for four? I dunno about you but that was pretty damn condescending.
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Old September 26, 2012, 05:24 AM
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Good honest article.
The guy said what needed to be said.

Without Mash, our pace dept. is toothless.
Our spin dept. is just full of SLA's. No offspinners or leg spinners.
Our batting is made up of Shakib and Tamim only. Rest are not dependable.Rest of the batsmen are just place-fillers.
All-rounders ... we only got one whereas in major teams, 50% of the team is made up of all-rounders.
Captaincy is rubbish - no matter who you give it to. And, if you give it to a performing player, their individual performance takes a nosedive.
Selectors continue to be crap. These ex cricketers are useless - get rid of them and employ specialist selectors.

Batting wise, we are also content at making 50, if our batsmen make 50 max, they think its the same as they scored 100. 100 korbo ? Pagol naki ? 100 kora amade rpokhkhey impossible. Amra ki Australia naki ?
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Old September 26, 2012, 06:03 AM
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Come on...yesterday out of the 6 4 of the batters stepped up to the mark. If tamim didnt slip we might hav had a extra 20 runs.

Dont forget our batters where the ones facing "a world class attack" their batters were facing a mediocre attack.

Indian couldnt defend 180 or woteva against them so how could we?

But excuses aside I agree our cricket needs a kick up the arse!! We need more international games in all the formats...and no I dont just mean against zimbos...but top 8 teams.
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Old September 26, 2012, 06:23 AM
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Wonder if any of our players will read that.
post a link of this to mushfiqur rahim on twitter. I was screaming at mushy to jus give the strike back to shak. Its common sense when one batsmen was playin with such flow u give as much of the strike to him as possible.
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Old September 26, 2012, 08:12 AM
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Thats his stated objective. I don't buy it. I can't prove it, but we couldn't prove OJ did it either.

The author to me doesn't look like he follows BD cricket except to throw in a good left jab every now and then when we're down on the mat with the ref counting to 10. If he knew just how dominant Shakib is in our setup he wouldn't have asked where is our Pataudi or Ranatunga. He'd have known that Shakib is our Superman.

Further his sucker-punches at the fans and the media were about as classy as Mike Tyson telling female reporters he'd answer their questions only after they service him orally. To top it off, I highly doubt they're even true. Are we to believe that our media - however inept they might be at cricket reporting - are stupid enough to cheer inside edges for four? I dunno about you but that was pretty damn condescending.
Does this poster wonder why the author of the article being discussed mentioned MAK Pataudi and Ranatunga and not other great cricketers that came out of the respective countries? It is because

It was under MAK Pataudi's Captaincy that India won the first test series abroad. He made the players believe in excellence and shun mediocrity .

It was under Ranatunga that SL won the world cup. Ranatunga bought in the belief that their team were not mediocre but were equal and better than the rest of the world.

It is this type of person, a leader, who can change the mental block of the team that they are as good as any other team in world cricket, that the author is asking for from the BD team.

Shakib is an amazing bowler and a better batsman may be better then the above two mentioned players but I dont think he can instil the belief, like he has in his abilities, to the other members of his team
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Old September 26, 2012, 08:30 AM
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I found this article ammusing (kind of). Anyway, he said the truth...which could've possibly been presented in a nicer way?
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Old September 26, 2012, 08:32 AM
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Shakib is an amazing bowler and a better batsman may be better then the above two mentioned players but I dont think he can instil the belief, like he has in his abilities, to the other members of his team
That's a very good point. Shakib is a fantastic player, but he doesn't appear to have the ability to lift individual players when they're down. He appears to be the more aloof type. Of course, this is just speculation.
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what's new in this article...we already know we suck..how this article gonna help us out if we ourselves don't even improve
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Old September 26, 2012, 09:54 AM
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Until we have a performance-based system where "you perform or be left behind" our players will not learn.
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Also, Mushy's captaincy was nothing short of horrible.
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Old September 26, 2012, 10:10 AM
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Regardless of any hidden motives that the author of the article might have (I'm not saying that he does and I'm not refuting claims for the motion - I'm just saying I don't give a crap), nothing he has said is a lie. We've been playing cricket since 1975, ODIs since the 80's, have had ODI status since '97 and have been playing professionally for over a decade now. It doesn't matter what others do, but we have to focus on ourselves. I think the author is absolutely right to criticize our propensity to laud mediocrity - this culture of being satisfied too easily has prevailed for too long and needs to go.
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Old September 26, 2012, 12:41 PM
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Here's how we know this is most likely not a piece of tough love. Bangladeshi posters at cricinfo got a mention. Has anyone seen that before? Clearly someone got under his skin and he's been waiting for a chance to put this article up. Just change the date. Indopak cricket fans ooze the worst kinds of bakwas, not even veiled as anything else...where's there mention after 0-8? Our last internationals appearance on a televised stage wouldn't work because it was the AC final. And immediately after, whoop there it is!
This. Exactly. Someone has some common sense. It takes some skill to understand what is genuine and what is not.

He might not have any hidden motive but it is clear why he wrote this article.
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Old September 26, 2012, 01:05 PM
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Ok great, he is chucking feces at us. Believe what you will, but it's time we have a "revolution." it's time find a Ranatunga. It's time to stop celebrating little step. It's time...

And the fact is like that you guys are so worked up over this proves all his points. Good thing it's only like 2-3 of you. Majority approve this feces chucker.
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Old September 26, 2012, 01:28 PM
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The things mentioned in this article had a ring of dejavu to it. The things he mentioned 'bd fans celerbrate everything like its world cup' is something that i constantly read on pak n indian forums everytime bd wins something. I mean wth? God help them if we ever win a WC den dey wil know how we reallu celebrate world cups lool
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The things mentioned in this article had a ring of dejavu to it. The things he mentioned 'bd fans celerbrate everything like its world cup' is something that i constantly read on pak n indian forums everytime bd wins something. I mean wth? God help them if we ever win a WC den dey wil know how we reallu celebrate world cups lool
loved that line.
Purohit babaji ekta ready made article likhte boslo, topic-ta jeno ki? ahh.. Bengal Cricket revolution... public khabe kokhon? When Bangladesh looses
Passion for this game for BD fan is unparalleled to anyone, making outsiders jeolous in big. Despite high loosing ratio BD fans aint lost interest in it, uprising of cricket revolution never fall down here & never will be. Unlike many other countries Fans dont desert cricket here, they just kept growing bigger. I back Navo's view that this article lacks understanding about BD fans. Article is more directed towards with mockery those failed players who are representing Bangladesh. Purohit will see how broad hearted we are when cricket will be back on our home soil and we'll fill the gallereis to cheer for our side.
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