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Old November 25, 2012, 11:54 AM
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In current NCL I never see his name anywhere. Is he playing NCL?
Yes and he is getting 1/2 wickets regularly.
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Old November 25, 2012, 12:00 PM
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Noor lost his mojo a bit. But i'm still hopeful. he is yet to be 20 so the HOPE is still there.


LS is an ART so it takes a bit of time unless you are Shane Warne
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Old November 25, 2012, 03:30 PM
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In current NCL I never see his name anywhere. Is he playing NCL?
He's played a few games in NCL this season! I first saw him in England playing in the Under-19 matches in 2009 or 10 I think and he was a big turner of the ball getting lots of wickets. But they're of no use when our pitches are flat like pancakes.
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Old November 30, 2012, 04:09 AM
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Noor struggled in the Under 19 WC as well. Perhaps he wont end up living up to the hype/expectations we all had. But its actually not a gr8 time for leg spinners. Piyush Chawla was dubbed for greatness even by Shane Warne's mentor Terry Jenner. Even he hasnt developed the way they wanted.
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Old November 30, 2012, 04:38 AM
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Chokka Maar Naeem!

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Old January 26, 2013, 10:55 PM
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Spinners having slightly less impact in BPL in comparison to last years edition. No demons in Dhaka and Khulna wicket. Lets see what Chittagong has for spinners.

Abdur Razzak and Gazi have been good. Debatable but probably one of the more impressive spinners in BPL so far has been Mosharraf Hossain Rubel. Really has a lot of Rafique in him, and not surprising because its Rafique who is coaching him at the moment at Dhaka Gladiators. At 31 is it too late to give him another go at international cricket? No harm because he seems to have a lot of maturity. He has been performing consistently in first class cricket as well.
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Old January 27, 2013, 05:22 AM
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Apart from Gazi, whom I do think as the best spin prospect at the moment:
Mosharraff Hossain - has great potential to succeed in tests, rate him higher than Sunny.
Enamul Haque Jr - not as great as I'd hoped, but good still.
Saqlain Sajib - went off the radar a bit, but bowled well even in the match where every other bowler got pwned. Do think he might do fine in the long run.
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Old February 8, 2013, 11:31 AM
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So does Enamul get a chance in the Sri Lankan tour, or still not good enough to impress the selectors?
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Old February 8, 2013, 01:27 PM
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See Enam's bad luck is he's way behind the queue. Your 1st choice Test spinners are Shakib & Gazi now. Sunny is 1st backup. For ODIs it's the Shakib + Gazi + Razzak. No backups needed as Nasir, Riyadh and Naeem will get some overs in. Same for T20s. You gotta take at least 3 pacers in your squad of 15. So even if Enam would definitely play for Saffers or NZ for e.g., he doesn't get a shot here.
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Old February 8, 2013, 01:27 PM
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Essentially Sunny's emergence has killed Enam's chances until Razzak retires in about 2 years. Unless we have some serious losses of form.
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Old February 8, 2013, 11:09 PM
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Will be interesting to see if the wicket tally of BPL will influence selectors. Enamul likely to top if his team plays through. Sunny way behind. Enamul was also highest wicket taker in first class. He has totally outperformed Sunny.
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Old February 8, 2013, 11:15 PM
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^if Shakib can't play the Tests against SL then I see Enamul making the trip. Otherwise it could be tough since Sunny has done well so far in the national team and we all know how well Gazi's been bowling. It's unfortunate that Enamul has been so unlucky but that's just how stacked we are with our spinners.
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Old February 9, 2013, 12:39 AM
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Is Mosharraf Hossain even in the mix? He has been probably even more consistent than Enamul right?
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Old February 9, 2013, 01:29 AM
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Its very difficult for Mosharraf Hossain. He was superb in NCL, finished with 40 wickets, just 4 less than Enamul. But he ll always be behind Razzak, Sunny, Enamul.
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Old February 9, 2013, 03:43 AM
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^Why's that? He has more wickets than Jr, Razzak and Sunny in BCL.
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Old February 9, 2013, 12:45 PM
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Essentially Sunny's emergence has killed Enam's chances until Razzak retires in about 2 years. Unless we have some serious losses of form.
I don't think Razzak will retire in 2 years. He's only 30, and he's been bowling very well the last couple of years. I see him bowling for another 5 years. He doesn't even play Tests, so that should prolong his ODI career. I'd like to see him get to 300 ODIs, and 350 wickets. That would be something!
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Old February 9, 2013, 06:14 PM
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yeah i don't see razzak retiring in 2 years either. as said he's only 30, he doesn't play tests so still has a lot left in him and in the last year or 2 he's found some form and started bowling much better again so he should be really motivated to keep going. he's not far off 200 wickets, if he plays another 100 ODIs then he's got a good chance of crossing 300 wickets and not being far from the 350 wickets milestone. i reckon if he plays 300 ODIs he'd be closer to 400 wickets than 350, that would be something else.
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Old February 10, 2013, 10:22 PM
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^Why's that? He has more wickets than Jr, Razzak and Sunny in BCL.
I guess selectors are a little tough on him, dont give him the credit he deserves. Rafique had labelled him as his future replacement. Unfortunately the ICL move totally derailed him. I still think he is more intelligent than Sunny, Razzak. Look at the way he tries to beat batsmen with flight, change of pace, turn. He's not a youngster either. So selectors will probably be saying shall i give a run to a 30 sth is not significantly better than my other spinners, or shall we try developing a more younger spinner for the future.
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Old February 10, 2013, 10:30 PM
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By the time Raj/Sunny retires, it will be turn for Naeem Jr/Tajul, or some other younger SLA. As of now, the SLA pipeline is clogged (though Enam is doing everything possible to breakthrough it).
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Old February 10, 2013, 10:34 PM
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Once Noor develops, I feel he'll jump all these SLA's. after all he's a leggie and the more variation, the better.
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Old February 10, 2013, 11:00 PM
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Noor has a long way to go. Nth special about him at the moment. But yes if he can develop it adds a whole new dimension to our attack.
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Old February 10, 2013, 11:11 PM
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I agree. Maybe another 2-3 yrs at least.
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Old February 11, 2013, 02:26 AM
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both marshall and shabbir offer some part time leggies so if they make it to the team soon i'm sure they'll be utilised a little bit. really need to find more leggies, just because noor is a leggy doesn't mean he'll develop into a world class one, but we don't have any other specialist leggy to put our hope on as yet.
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Old February 11, 2013, 05:25 AM
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Check this article says it all about leg spin http://www.planetcricket.net/wordpre...-a-fading-art/

This is a problem all over the world. Leg spin is an art, and at the moment the world is having a severe shortage of such artists. Like Gowza says at best we could benefit from some part timers just to add some variety.
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Old February 11, 2013, 07:59 AM
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Clever bowling from him today vs DG. still have high hope in him just like 3/4 yrears back. Only 20 so have alot of time to develop, and i'm sure he will develop. Not everyone is a born legend like Warne.
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