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Old October 25, 2012, 05:41 AM
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My preferred XI:
Tamim
Anamul
Mominul
Naeem
Shakib
Mushfiqur
Nasir
Riyad
Sunny
Nazmul
Rubel

Most likely XI:
Tamim
Nazim
Mominul
Naeem
Shakib
Mushfiqur
Nasir
Riyad
Sunny
Shahadat
Rubel
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Old October 25, 2012, 05:56 AM
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My preferred XI:
Tamim
Anamul
Mominul
Naeem
Shakib
Mushfiqur
Nasir
Riyad
Sunny
Nazmul
Rubel

Most likely XI:
Tamim
Nazim
Mominul
Naeem
Shakib
Mushfiqur
Nasir
Riyad
Sunny
Shahadat
Rubel
why play riyad at #8? unless you want him there mainly as a bowler in which case it'd probably be better to choose enamul or sohag....also nasir at #7 is too low imo. nasir is great at being calm and taking his time with his innings, he's good at making partnerships so i think he's better utilised higher up.
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Old October 25, 2012, 05:56 AM
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One reason why our batting is reasonably good these days is because we have three batsmen who are dependable run scorers. All three are capable of scoring against any type of opposition in any type of wicket and situation. And these three are capable of easily averaging over 30 in ODI's and Tests (Which they do btw) which is quire a rare feat for Bangladeshi batsmen. I am talking abt Tamim, Shakib and Nasir. Because of these three now we can confidently say we can score over 200 in ODI's and 300 in a test innings. This wasnt always the case with the Habibul Bashars and Ashrafuls.

The addition of Anamul Haque and Mominul will be a huge milestone in the history of Bangladeshi cricket. Because like Tamim, Shakib and Nasir-Anamul and Mominul are batsmen capable of scoring a lot of runs for us consistently. Even now they are probably better than our current crop (Jahurul Islam, Imrul Kayes, Junaid Siddiqui, Raqibul Hasan). I reckon they too can easily become 30 plus average batsmen. Never before in our history have we had 5 such batsmen playing in the same team. Can you imagine the impact?

But heres the thing. One could say the same about Nafis Iqbal, Shahriar Nafees, Ashraful, Raqibul Hasan when they started. All of them were extremely talented, did well in FC, even did well for the NT when they started. But somewhere something went wrong. We have to make sure this something doesnt go wrong with Anamul and Moninul as well. Best precaution we can take is to go a little slow. Let them work with McIness. Let them score more runs in FC, A Team matches, BPL. Let them earn their spot. I have no doubt they will be an improvement over our current batsmen. But lets not be hasty and let us not allow history to repeat itself all over again. These two are very special talents-lets groom them, train them before pushing them into the deep end of the ocean. Once they drown, theres no coming back
Excellent reasoning ... I agree, we shouldn't hurry Anamul, Mominul ... Whatever they have done in the domestics, but they have failed to impress or show the same performance with a better opponent. U19 is not the level we are talking about. I feel, they have potential, but they are far from being matured batsmen in terms of handling the standards expected at the international level. Let them work with Mccinnes and improve their game. Lets not repeat history.

Our first class performances, without the national team players participation, isn't that worth counting for throwing them into international matches. We shouldn't out rightly consider Anamul's poor performances as a off form alone, he is yet to prove his class against quality opponents.
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Old October 25, 2012, 05:59 AM
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While I agree with you wholeheartedly, I would like to add that Anamul (if not Mominul) has shown that he is ready for the Internatonal stage. None among Shahriar Nafees, Raqibul Hasan and Mohammad Ashraful averaged more than 35 at any stage of their career in First Class cricket. My only concern is Anamul's present dip in form. Hopefully he will make his way out soon.
although i believe anamul should make the jump to the national team i would like to see him get out of this current funk and i'm not sure about ash or SN but raqibul early on in his FC career did average over 50, actually think he was averaging over 55 at one point but it's dropped a lot and his high average early had a lot to do with his 313*.
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Old October 25, 2012, 06:03 AM
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Excellent reasoning ... I agree, we shouldn't hurry Anamul, Mominul ... Whatever they have done in the domestics, but they have failed to impress or show the same performance with a better opponent. U19 is not the level we are talking about. I feel, they have potential, but they are far from being matured batsmen in terms of handling the standards expected at the international level. Let them work with Mccinnes and improve their game. Lets not repeat history.

Our first class performances, without the national team players participation, isn't that worth counting for throwing them into international matches. We shouldn't out rightly consider Anamul's poor performances as a off form alone, he is yet to prove his class against quality opponents.
mominul's 150 in the west indies for the A team was reasonably impressive, it's the one thing that he's done that anamul hasn't, he's made a big score away from home against decent opposition, in every other department anamul beats him which is why i pretty much place them fairly equal when it comes to their development and being ready for the next step.
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Old October 25, 2012, 06:08 AM
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why play riyad at #8? unless you want him there mainly as a bowler in which case it'd probably be better to choose enamul or sohag....also nasir at #7 is too low imo. nasir is great at being calm and taking his time with his innings, he's good at making partnerships so i think he's better utilised higher up.
The batting order from Naeem-Shakib-Mushy-Riyad-Nasir should be flexible, and according to the match situation.

And regarding, Gazi's inclusion, I do want him in the XI, but I don't see it happening yet.
I think Enamul Jr. will be overlooked.
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Old October 25, 2012, 06:16 AM
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The batting order from Naeem-Shakib-Mushy-Riyad-Nasir should be flexible, and according to the match situation.

And regarding, Gazi's inclusion, I do want him in the XI, but I don't see it happening yet.
I think Enamul Jr. will be overlooked.
it's made less flexible by naeem and riyad (especially naeem) not really being able to have enough time if they bat at 7/8 as they're not quick enough scorers and in FC cricket do their best work at a slower rate. i really think if they bat as low as 7 and 8 they're wasted so they'd really need to bat up the order but that means 2 of nasir, shakib and mushy have to bat at 7/8 and that's a waste for them also.

sohag is a good option for 7 or 8 because of his all round capabilities. i think we really need a specialist standard bowler in the #8 position so we have enough quality in the bowling to at least have some chance. #7 should go to an allrounder or specialist keeper rather than a pure batsman (which at test level naeem and riyad are basically batsmen rather than allrounders).
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Old October 25, 2012, 09:23 AM
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My playing XI

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Anamul Haque
3. Mominul Haque
4. Naeem Islam
5. Nasir Hossain
6. Shakib Al Hasan
7. Mushfiqur Rahim
8. Mahmudullah Riyad/Sohag Gazi
9. Enamul Haque/Elias Sunny
10. Rubel Hossain
11. Shahadat Hossain/Nazmul Hossain

I don't see the point in opening with Nazimuddin as he's footwork so bad and with the West Indies fast bowlers it'll be like playing 10 vs 11.
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Old October 25, 2012, 02:19 PM
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1. Tamim
2. Nazimuddin
3. Mahmudullah
4. Mushfiqur* +
5. Shakib
6. Naeem
7. Nasir
8. Sunny
9. Enamul Haque
10. Rubel
11. Nazmul

12. Nafees
13. Gazi
14. Mominul

Potential swap b/w Nafees and Nazim for opening slot.
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Old October 25, 2012, 02:38 PM
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I think its time to give Riyad his old position back for test cricket. No. 4 or 5. He is not comfortable at top order. He can be given the responsibility to build the innings for the team. Rather he should play at the lowest possible batting order where he can hold things back if there is a collapse or extend the team innings lead. Whenever a player performs at lower order, we tend to push them up rather than leaving them at their comfort zone. At least its true for Riyad and Nasir in my opinion. Riyad is still a very good batsman. He performed great against New Zealand at seam conditions and India at home. So he can definitely handle the West Indian attack.
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Old October 25, 2012, 02:39 PM
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1. Tamim
2. Nazimuddin
3. Mahmudullah
4. Mushfiqur* +
5. Shakib
6. Naeem
7. Nasir
8. Sunny
9. Enamul Haque
10. Rubel
11. Nazmul

12. Nafees
13. Gazi
14. Mominul

Potential swap b/w Nafees and Nazim for opening slot.
Pretty much same as me but my orde be slightly different
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Old October 25, 2012, 02:40 PM
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Thread opener what do you mean by "14 XI after 1st round"
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Old October 25, 2012, 02:46 PM
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Old October 25, 2012, 03:22 PM
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Thread opener what do you mean by "14 XI after 1st round"
the naming wasnt right... Appologies
my intention was to have ppl submit and discuss their squad based on Round 1 of NCL. Here in BC, one player scores a 100, than u see his name in at least 20 ppls squad. We like to throw in debuts before every series.
so my intention was to have ppl submit the squad, and the come back to it after the 2nd round and see how many ppl maintains their original squad... I want to see how many ppl are consistent with their choices....



the mods can change the name of the thread with a relevent title if they want
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Old October 25, 2012, 03:56 PM
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My team test only

Tamim
Nazimuddin
Mominul
Naeem
Shakib
Mushfiq
Nasir
Sohag gazi
Enam jr
Elias sunny
Rubel hossain
Najmul hossain
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Old October 25, 2012, 04:11 PM
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the naming wasnt right... Appologies
my intention was to have ppl submit and discuss their squad based on Round 1 of NCL. Here in BC, one player scores a 100, than u see his name in at least 20 ppls squad. We like to throw in debuts before every series.
so my intention was to have ppl submit the squad, and the come back to it after the 2nd round and see how many ppl maintains their original squad... I want to see how many ppl are consistent with their choices....



the mods can change the name of the thread with a relevent title if they want
with a team it's tough to be consistent simply because the players themselves aren't that consistent, so inconsistent in fact that one or two innings can decided whether they should make a squad or not. but i think things are getting better, people aren't as gungho about selecting players these days, otherwise masrhall ayub would be in everyone's squad atm.
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Old October 25, 2012, 04:17 PM
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with a team it's tough to be consistent simply because the players themselves aren't that consistent, so inconsistent in fact that one or two innings can decided whether they should make a squad or not. but i think things are getting better, people aren't as gungho about selecting players these days, otherwise masrhall ayub would be in everyone's squad atm.
But he is in so many squads... I dont think i ever saw him on anyones thoughts at all before! And suddenly he scores a 200 (which is an outstanding performance no doubt) and suddenly i see him in few squads here.
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But he is in so many squads... I dont think i ever saw him on anyones thoughts at all before! And suddenly he scores a 200 (which is an outstanding performance no doubt) and suddenly i see him in few squads here.
yeah i'm sure he wasn't in squads before this, he's been a prospect for years though but no doubt the 200 put him into squads but i think previously he'd be in even more squads.
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Old October 25, 2012, 05:41 PM
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Marshall Ayub should definitely not be considered for just 1 big score. Let him be more consistent and then if he continues to do well then pick him for the A team. He looks like a guy who can bat but needs to show more prolonged consistency

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Old October 25, 2012, 09:18 PM
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Marshall ayub will not get chance based on one innings, i am sure. But enam jr def deserve a chance, nobody is so consistent than enam jr, a team , league, bpl, ncl, everywhere. His hard work need to pay off.
I think mominul should be selected too.

Anamul seems like off form again, so i wont advocate for him but sohag gazi might replace mahmudullah , similar type allrounder and naeem should come back only in test format
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Old October 26, 2012, 01:14 AM
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Marshall Ayub should definitely not be considered for just 1 big score. Let him be more consistent and then if he continues to do well then pick him for the A team. He looks like a guy who can bat but needs to show more prolonged consistency

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Very true. He was supposed to be a hot prospect, supposedly with immense potential. Good that he has hit a double ton. Now lets hope he continues the form for a season or two before we give him a chance in ODI or Tests. BPL will be another test.
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Old October 26, 2012, 01:47 AM
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Here is what would be a reasonable squad even though I am not convinced about a couple of players in it:
1. Tamim
2. Nazim (due to limited options)
3. Naeem (want to see what the hype surrounding him is all about)
4. Ryad (need to take more responsibility instead of hiding in the shadows)
5. Shakib
6. Mushy (wkt keeping is a demanding task in Tests and hence need time to rest before batting)
7. Nasir (no room for him up the order)
8. Shohag Gazi
9. Enamul Hq Jr
10. Nazmul
11. Rubel
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Old October 26, 2012, 02:33 AM
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^ Just want to ask, what has E.Sunny done to be dropped?

Nevertheless, good XI!
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Old October 26, 2012, 02:50 AM
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^^ I agree. As much as Enamul Haque has done to gain a place Sunny hasn't done much to get dropped. Remember it was against the same opponents he took a 6-for on debut.
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Old October 26, 2012, 04:03 AM
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Sunny is a must. He will pick up wickets. Plus he makes a very useful number 8, averages close to 25 in FC. Adds depth

If Enamul has to play it has to be in place of Razzak as the third spinner
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