facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Cricket > Cricket

Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket

View Poll Results: Are you happy with the test squard?
Yes 7 16.67%
No 25 59.52%
50-50 10 23.81%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old November 8, 2012, 04:07 PM
reyme's Avatar
reyme reyme is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: May 19, 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Favorite Player: Umpires!
Posts: 3,868

In addition to what Fazal had to say, I want to believe in Test matches you want to bring match winners. We cant afford a high scoring Test, we will lose by miles. Yet we need courageous affressive batsmen who can attack. Thats why we need Mominul and Anamul now, not Nazim or Nafees, who will be out there just to survive and score few runs in process. But that wont win us anything. Infact they will create more pressure on other batsmen down the line. Anamul might fire or might not, but if he does he will be match winner....

We also need to take 20 wickets to win, so we need a bowler who can wipe them out on day 4 or 5. That's where Enam comes, since Shak is out of form.

Test is for specialist, not for bits and pieces players. No point even taking 2 pacers, they will be hammered. Put in Enam, Sunny, Shakib and Shohag, I see WI gets bundled out within 200. Then we have a real chance.

That's why my team was
Tamim/Zunaid
Mominul/Anamul
Naeem/Shakib
Mushy/Nasir
Enam/Shohag/Shahadat
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old November 8, 2012, 04:07 PM
Dilscoop Dilscoop is offline
Cricket Guru
Commissioner, MLC
 
Join Date: March 22, 2010
Location: Home of the Brave
Posts: 10,645

Like that great man once said, "We aren't leaving behind any Tendulkars, Sehwag" ...

IMO, this is one of the most weakest squad I have seen in most recent times. I know we all complain about squads every time, for different reasons and players, but this time I can't even complain. Because that's all we have! Besides Tamim, Shakib and Rahim (only because he's the "captain") none of these guys are fixed contender.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old November 8, 2012, 04:08 PM
AsifTheManRahman's Avatar
AsifTheManRahman AsifTheManRahman is offline
Super Moderator
BC Editorial Team
 
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,672

Mominul and Anamul can't even beat U-19 players, what makes you think they'll beat the West Indies senior team?

They are good, but putting the match-winner tag on them is premature.
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old November 8, 2012, 04:17 PM
reyme's Avatar
reyme reyme is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: May 19, 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Favorite Player: Umpires!
Posts: 3,868

Not sure which U19s, but if mominul and Anamul can't beat U19, then nazim, Nafees won't beat U10...Yes maybe a bit premature to call them match winners now, but at least they have a real potential to be a match winner...unlike Nafees...they are scorning freely in NCL where nazim and Nafees are struggling to score a double digits....on the very same pitch against exact same bowlers...
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old November 8, 2012, 04:21 PM
AsifTheManRahman's Avatar
AsifTheManRahman AsifTheManRahman is offline
Super Moderator
BC Editorial Team
 
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,672

Nafees seemed like he had a lot of potential too when he started, but then he got married and fat. Hopefully the same (marriage and fatness) won't happen to Anamul/Mominul.

Anamul tore 500 taka dimu, tui biya korish na.
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old November 8, 2012, 04:25 PM
Nadim's Avatar
Nadim Nadim is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
 
Join Date: September 16, 2008
Location: Guantanamo
Favorite Player: Innocent Bird
Posts: 41,797

Quote:
Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Nafees seemed like he had a lot of potential too when he started, but then he got married and fat. Hopefully the same (marriage and fatness) won't happen to Anamul/Mominul.

Anamul tore 500 taka dimu, tui biya korish na.
Even after marrifge he was scoring runs...icl er takar luve pore shob geche...

Posted via BC Mobile Edition (Blackberry)
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old November 8, 2012, 04:52 PM
Tiger444's Avatar
Tiger444 Tiger444 is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: February 17, 2008
Location: Connecticut, USA
Favorite Player: All the BD players
Posts: 7,795

Quote:
Originally Posted by reyme
Not sure which U19s, but if mominul and Anamul can't beat U19, then nazim, Nafees won't beat U10...Yes maybe a bit premature to call them match winners now, but at least they have a real potential to be a match winner...unlike Nafees...they are scorning freely in NCL where nazim and Nafees are struggling to score a double digits....on the very same pitch against exact same bowlers...
I wouldn't say hitting 1 century in the NCL, means scoring freely. You could term Tamim and Naeem as scoring "freely." Also it seems that your bracketing Nazim and Nafees as the same. Nafees scored a 60 in the 1st match and failed in the 2nd but didn't get a chance in the 2nd match. Nazim on the other failed to notch a 50. Also Nafees made 3 fifties in Tests in 2011 and he's hit big scores before at this level albeit, less consistently then we would have liked.

Finally your saying you want Junaid to open the innings. Don't forget he averages a 17 as opener and 32 as a #3. SN, on the other hand, averages a 27 as opener. So don't you think it's a better idea to have Nafees opening while Junaid is at #3?
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old November 8, 2012, 04:58 PM
BANFAN's Avatar
BANFAN BANFAN is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: March 26, 2007
Favorite Player: Shak-Ash-Tam
Posts: 16,689

Quote:
Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Mominul and Anamul can't even beat U-19 players, what makes you think they'll beat the West Indies senior team?

They are good, but putting the match-winner tag on them is premature.
Agree ..
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old November 8, 2012, 05:21 PM
rinathq's Avatar
rinathq rinathq is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: January 1, 2010
Location: Toronto, ON
Favorite Player: Mash, Shak, Enam, Riyad
Posts: 2,735

Quote:
Originally Posted by WarWolf
My overall feeling is not happy about the team selection.



3. Keeping Riyad in the side. Some people might disagree with me about this point. Riyad is a negative mindset player and not in good form right at the moment. He has better average than most of the BD players in test. But almost none of them came under pressure time. I am afraid Nasir might have to sit down to give Riyad a place in the team.
Check his highest scores... against India, New Zealand... almost all of them were under a pressure situation. He is batting with the tail for all of those innings and extended the team total... that is the pressure situation for test cricket...
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old November 8, 2012, 05:32 PM
Dilscoop Dilscoop is offline
Cricket Guru
Commissioner, MLC
 
Join Date: March 22, 2010
Location: Home of the Brave
Posts: 10,645

Quote:
Originally Posted by rinathq
Check his highest scores... against India, New Zealand... almost all of them were under a pressure situation. He is batting with the tail for all of those innings and extended the team total... that is the pressure situation for test cricket...
Might as well bring back Bashar, he scored a lot of runs too back in the day too?

Riyad is my least bit of concern. I'm not all that upset that he is on the team. But why do we always go back 5 years, using 2-3 w/e available examples to justifiyr a player's current position? Makes no sense.

Riyad was great. But he was ruined when he was promoted to 4 and demoted 8 within a series, thanks to Ashraful. He hasn't scored since. And I will forever hold that against the management.
Reply With Quote
  #61  
Old November 8, 2012, 05:33 PM
rinathq's Avatar
rinathq rinathq is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: January 1, 2010
Location: Toronto, ON
Favorite Player: Mash, Shak, Enam, Riyad
Posts: 2,735

Quote:
Originally Posted by reyme
Not sure which U19s, but if mominul and Anamul can't beat U19, then nazim, Nafees won't beat U10...Yes maybe a bit premature to call them match winners now, but at least they have a real potential to be a match winner...unlike Nafees...they are scorning freely in NCL where nazim and Nafees are struggling to score a double digits....on the very same pitch against exact same bowlers...
Not sure which Nafees u are talking about but the Nafees i know, 3 of his highest test scores came against Australia and Pakistan.... Period

and the Nazim i know only played 2 international match, 1 he scored brilliantly and the other he did not, against the most destructive spin attack at that moment.

And match winners? give me a break. Bangladesh has NO match winners for test cricket yet. Tamim and Shakib are doing well but they are still not Match winners for the longer version... and you think Anamul and Mominul would be match winners?

and please don't use the "potential" tag on these players. Every single player in the team has the "potential" ....
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old November 8, 2012, 05:38 PM
rinathq's Avatar
rinathq rinathq is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: January 1, 2010
Location: Toronto, ON
Favorite Player: Mash, Shak, Enam, Riyad
Posts: 2,735

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilscoop
Might as well bring back Bashar, he scored a lot of runs too back in the day too?

Riyad is my least bit of concern. I'm not all that upset that he is on the team. But why do we always go back 5 years, using 2-3 w/e available examples to justifiyr a player's current position? Makes no sense.

Riyad was great. But he was ruined when he was promoted to 4 and demoted 8 within a series, thanks to Ashraful. He hasn't scored since. And I will forever hold that against the management.
I am not trying to back Riyad based on his scores 2 years ago. However, all his good scores came under no pressure situation is not true.. Thats why i used the example of India and New Zealand.

If a player is not performing... and you want him dropped, thats fair.... but forgetting his contribution in the past isnt
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old November 8, 2012, 05:48 PM
al Furqaan's Avatar
al Furqaan al Furqaan is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: February 18, 2004
Location: Chicago
Favorite Player: Mominul, Nasir, Taskin
Posts: 20,147

Voted 50-50, because while I hate the squad and its inherent negativity, it might be a case of the selectors giving the Riyads, the SNs, the Junaids, and the Nazimuddins one last chance. If they pick the same squad for the 2nd test - even if we win the first by an innings - I'm going to go ballistic. I think if we had the warm up game, and saw what Anamul, Mominul, and others provided we would see a slightly different squad today and by different I mean progressive and not the current regressive side.
__________________
I drop knowledge so heavy it leaves the world unbalanced, exterminating the spiritual force of all that challenge, I'm the lyrical apocalypse that crumbles the granite, replacing you as the dominant species on the planet.
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old November 8, 2012, 05:51 PM
Dilscoop Dilscoop is offline
Cricket Guru
Commissioner, MLC
 
Join Date: March 22, 2010
Location: Home of the Brave
Posts: 10,645

Quote:
Originally Posted by rinathq
I am not trying to back Riyad based on his scores 2 years ago. However, all his good scores came under no pressure situation is not true.. Thats why i used the example of India and New Zealand.

If a player is not performing... and you want him dropped, thats fair.... but forgetting his contribution in the past isnt
People forget about Sachin's 100 centuries once he hits couple of bad ones. You expect people to scream about Riyad's "pressure situation" 1.98 centuries?
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old November 8, 2012, 05:53 PM
AsifTheManRahman's Avatar
AsifTheManRahman AsifTheManRahman is offline
Super Moderator
BC Editorial Team
 
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,672

Quote:
Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Voted 50-50, because while I hate the squad and its inherent negativity, it might be a case of the selectors giving the Riyads, the SNs, the Junaids, and the Nazimuddins one last chance. If they pick the same squad for the 2nd test - even if we win the first by an innings - I'm going to go ballistic. I think if we had the warm up game, and saw what Anamul, Mominul, and others provided we would see a slightly different squad today and by different I mean progressive and not the current regressive side.
What if we win the first Test by an inning AND the Riyads, the SNs, the Junaids and the Nazimuddins all make big scores?
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old November 8, 2012, 05:57 PM
Dilscoop Dilscoop is offline
Cricket Guru
Commissioner, MLC
 
Join Date: March 22, 2010
Location: Home of the Brave
Posts: 10,645

^ You should open double-Official Threads on them.
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old November 8, 2012, 05:58 PM
BANFAN's Avatar
BANFAN BANFAN is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: March 26, 2007
Favorite Player: Shak-Ash-Tam
Posts: 16,689

Quote:
Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
What if we win the first Test by an inning AND the Riyads, the SNs, the Junaids and the Nazimuddins all make big scores?
Anamul and Mominul have to break Lara's first class record to enter the team....
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old November 8, 2012, 06:02 PM
Dilscoop Dilscoop is offline
Cricket Guru
Commissioner, MLC
 
Join Date: March 22, 2010
Location: Home of the Brave
Posts: 10,645

Forget about Riyad's batting. He is about to drop bunch of catches, keeping his eyes closed like that.

Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old November 8, 2012, 06:04 PM
BANFAN's Avatar
BANFAN BANFAN is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: March 26, 2007
Favorite Player: Shak-Ash-Tam
Posts: 16,689

Darun fielder, he is focussing on the stumps....not exactly closing his eyes...
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old November 8, 2012, 06:10 PM
Dilscoop Dilscoop is offline
Cricket Guru
Commissioner, MLC
 
Join Date: March 22, 2010
Location: Home of the Brave
Posts: 10,645

^ Correct, to make a double-play. Catch_runout. He's on the next level.
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old November 8, 2012, 06:13 PM
BengaliPagol's Avatar
BengaliPagol BengaliPagol is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: February 4, 2012
Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW
Favorite Player: Gareth Bale
Posts: 5,006

Naeem i have to say is a good inclusion. Im really dissapointed that Mominul hasnt got his chance.

Think about it. If West Indies say they are happy with the conditions then we are f***** big time if Shahadat and Abul are in the same line up together. Nazmul should have been in the team.

I think selecting from Enamul, Elias & Sohag is really tough. Elias shouldnt be dropped just because Enamul is doing well in the domestics. Elias has been bowling well for the national team and doesnt deserve to be dropped. So it was a toss up between Enamul and Sohag the whole time. SOhag does add variety but he will strengthen the batting a bit which might come in handy. So really it was a hard decision.
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old November 8, 2012, 06:15 PM
al Furqaan's Avatar
al Furqaan al Furqaan is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: February 18, 2004
Location: Chicago
Favorite Player: Mominul, Nasir, Taskin
Posts: 20,147

Quote:
Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
What if we win the first Test by an inning AND the Riyads, the SNs, the Junaids and the Nazimuddins all make big scores?
Flukes.
__________________
I drop knowledge so heavy it leaves the world unbalanced, exterminating the spiritual force of all that challenge, I'm the lyrical apocalypse that crumbles the granite, replacing you as the dominant species on the planet.
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old November 8, 2012, 06:17 PM
AsifTheManRahman's Avatar
AsifTheManRahman AsifTheManRahman is offline
Super Moderator
BC Editorial Team
 
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,672

Quote:
Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Flukes.
Then why don't you mind giving them one last chance? What's even the point?
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old November 8, 2012, 06:20 PM
AsifTheManRahman's Avatar
AsifTheManRahman AsifTheManRahman is offline
Super Moderator
BC Editorial Team
 
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,672

I don't think we should rely on Shohag's batting at all. Elias Sunny has 3 centuries and 8 50's in FC cricket, yet he doesn't seem to know how to hold a bat when playing for the national team. I know Gazi isn't Sunny, but an average of 27 in the world's best FC league isn't really flattering. Play him as a bowler, expect Pfeiffers, but don't expect anything from his bat. He will likely score no more than SN, i.e. a big fat Javed Omar Belim Golla.
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old November 8, 2012, 06:31 PM
Max100 Max100 is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: May 12, 2012
Location: Hawaii
Favorite Player: miller,ryder,warner,nasir
Posts: 904

i am not happy with selection. SN, nazimuddin and abul dont deserve position according to current form. mahmudullah is off form too, rubel just get back from injury, mushy is also not in good form. too many off form players. surprised not to see enam jr, i think we could place 3 spinner and 2 pacer in this match

my ideal selection wud have been

tamim
junaid
anamul/jahurul/mominul
naeem
mushfiq
shakib
nasir/ sohag gazi
sohag gazi/enamul jr
elias sunny
shahadat
rubel
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket