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Old November 24, 2012, 11:28 PM
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Default Current players who should never play another Test match

The BLACK list
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Junaid Siddiqui
Shahriar Nafees
Mohammed Ashraful
Nazimuddin
Shahadat Hussain


Please do not get deceived Domestic leagues, they reflect nothing about their ability in front of international players.
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Old November 24, 2012, 11:36 PM
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Old November 24, 2012, 11:39 PM
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Old November 24, 2012, 11:47 PM
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Old November 24, 2012, 11:52 PM
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Add Rokibul Hasan to that list
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Old November 25, 2012, 12:16 AM
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Add Rokibul Hasan to that list
He shouldn't play any format of the game. Well that applies for Nazimuddin and Shahadat..
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Old November 25, 2012, 12:17 AM
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Abdur Razzak & Rokibul

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Old November 25, 2012, 12:27 AM
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Old November 25, 2012, 01:21 AM
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Old November 25, 2012, 01:24 AM
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Nazimuddin, Junaid, Nafees, Raqibul, Ashraful. Not so sure of Shahadat, but Abul is fairly crap IMO, as much as his batting heroics might have masked it.
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Old November 25, 2012, 01:25 AM
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Abdur Razzak
Bit unfair. No fan of him in tests, but nowhere near might still be a bit over the top.
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Old November 25, 2012, 02:07 AM
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This is a good thread. From the T2 team :

Nazim: 100% for sure
Nafees: 90% for sure

From the full series :
Add Shahadat: 50% for sure
Add Zunaid: 30% for sure
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Old November 25, 2012, 02:15 AM
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The term black listed sounds they have committed some crime, which they haven't. They are cricketers who try their best when playing for their country. They might lack in their abilities but does not warrant them to be singled out to be termed as black listed players and "never" to represent ever again. At some point, they have made their country proud and most being 'relatively' young, still have enough time to represent their national team once again, given they are in good form.

Lets look at the players you mentioned:

Junaid Siddiqui
- Only 25 years of age. Have a test century to his name and one of the players who has been around for a while. Was involved in the highest partnership for Bangladesh so far (Tamim and Junaed, 200 run partnership, 2nd wicket against India)
Plenty of time for him to make a come back.
This test series, he should never been a part of it, he was not in good form. Got picked only because of the 182 something he scored in one innings in the flattest pitch in the world. Out of form of other openers was another factor for his selection.

Shahriar Nafees
- Completely out of form at the moment, but you never count him out. Again, not his fault if the selector pick him despite struggling in domestic and expect him to do well in international.
Has the ability. Got a scintillating test century against the all conquering mighty Aussies.

Mohammed Ashraful
- Well, less said is better. But you can never count him out.
Despite all his inabilities, he still have the highest individual test score (158), highest number of test centuries (5) and second highest total run in test for Bangladesh.
3/10 top test innings for Bangladesh still belongs to Ashraful (158, 136, 129).
3rd and 6th wicket partnership record still belongs to Ash (along his partner, Javed and Mushy respectively)
Have 6 hundred run partnership, which is second highest (Shakib and Mushy got 7 and Tamim got 5)
Can never count him out.

Nazimuddin
- Looked horribly wrong this series, but was the cream of the crop only 2 test earlier. Had a good knock against Pakistan in the first innings of the first test last year. Not one of those players I'd like to have in my team either, but still plenty of time for him to come back in the team.

Shahadat Hussain
Like him or not, he is the ONLY Bangladeshi bowler to have his name at Lord's Honour List, and you want to black list him from national team ??
4th highest wicket taker and the leading one from the active pacers (Mash is not counted since he is not likely to play tests anytime soon again). Have better average than Rubel or Shafiul.
He is always one good 'domestic' game away from making a comeback.
Unfortunate, but thats the reality for our team.

I'm not advocating for any of these players to make a come back right now, but to call out their name and say they should be black listed and never to play for national team, its sounds like a knee jerk reaction from a 13 year old teenage girl.

IMHO, this type of thread should be banned.
Very short sighted and does nothing but spread hatred.
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Old November 25, 2012, 02:27 AM
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Top post by Rabz bhai.

No player should be discarded permanently. There should be a pathway to reach to the test team by them even for Ash or SN. They may be tested by playing in the A team properly. But directly discarding anyone must not be done.
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Old November 25, 2012, 02:54 AM
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Forget about 'Test Match', the following cricketers (!!!!) should never be near to the any national team.

Shahriar Nafees
Nazimuddin
Shahadat Hussain

I don't care about their age, past history ! They just don't belong to the rest of national team players. Get rid of free riders !!
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Old November 25, 2012, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabz
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The term black listed sounds they have committed some crime, which they haven't. They are cricketers who try their best when playing for their country. They might lack in their abilities but does not warrant them to be singled out to be termed as black listed players and "never" to represent ever again. At some point, they have made their country proud and most being 'relatively' young, still have enough time to represent their national team once again, given they are in good form.

Lets look at the players you mentioned:

Junaid Siddiqui
- Only 25 years of age. Have a test century to his name and one of the players who has been around for a while. Was involved in the highest partnership for Bangladesh so far (Tamim and Junaed, 200 run partnership, 2nd wicket against India)
Plenty of time for him to make a come back.
This test series, he should never been a part of it, he was not in good form. Got picked only because of the 182 something he scored in one innings in the flattest pitch in the world. Out of form of other openers was another factor for his selection.

Shahriar Nafees
- Completely out of form at the moment, but you never count him out. Again, not his fault if the selector pick him despite struggling in domestic and expect him to do well in international.
Has the ability. Got a scintillating test century against the all conquering mighty Aussies.

Mohammed Ashraful
- Well, less said is better. But you can never count him out.
Despite all his inabilities, he still have the highest individual test score (158), highest number of test centuries (5) and second highest total run in test for Bangladesh.
3/10 top test innings for Bangladesh still belongs to Ashraful (158, 136, 129).
3rd and 6th wicket partnership record still belongs to Ash (along his partner, Javed and Mushy respectively)
Have 6 hundred run partnership, which is second highest (Shakib and Mushy got 7 and Tamim got 5)
Can never count him out.

Nazimuddin
- Looked horribly wrong this series, but was the cream of the crop only 2 test earlier. Had a good knock against Pakistan in the first innings of the first test last year. Not one of those players I'd like to have in my team either, but still plenty of time for him to come back in the team.

Shahadat Hussain
Like him or not, he is the ONLY Bangladeshi bowler to have his name at Lord's Honour List, and you want to black list him from national team ??
4th highest wicket taker and the leading one from the active pacers (Mash is not counted since he is not likely to play tests anytime soon again). Have better average than Rubel or Shafiul.
He is always one good 'domestic' game away from making a comeback.
Unfortunate, but thats the reality for our team.

I'm not advocating for any of these players to make a come back right now, but to call out their name and say they should be black listed and never to play for national team, its sounds like a knee jerk reaction from a 13 year old teenage girl.

IMHO, this type of thread should be banned.
Very short sighted and does nothing but spread hatred.
Excellent Post .....
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Old November 25, 2012, 03:39 AM
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Abul should be in the BD team... PURELY FOR HIS BATTING.

think about it, you cant drop a player who has an average of 120 with the bat. I believe he is destined to be Tamims batting partner in tests. Simply too good of a batsmen
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Old November 25, 2012, 04:34 AM
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SN lived up to his average! He scored over 20 in each of his 4 innings!
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Old November 25, 2012, 04:55 AM
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The term black listed sounds they have committed some crime, which they haven't. They are cricketers who try their best when playing for their country. They might lack in their abilities but does not warrant them to be singled out to be termed as black listed players and "never" to represent ever again. At some point, they have made their country proud and most being 'relatively' young, still have enough time to represent their national team once again, given they are in good form.

Lets look at the players you mentioned:

Junaid Siddiqui
- Only 25 years of age. Have a test century to his name and one of the players who has been around for a while. Was involved in the highest partnership for Bangladesh so far (Tamim and Junaed, 200 run partnership, 2nd wicket against India)
Plenty of time for him to make a come back.
This test series, he should never been a part of it, he was not in good form. Got picked only because of the 182 something he scored in one innings in the flattest pitch in the world. Out of form of other openers was another factor for his selection.

Shahriar Nafees
- Completely out of form at the moment, but you never count him out. Again, not his fault if the selector pick him despite struggling in domestic and expect him to do well in international.
Has the ability. Got a scintillating test century against the all conquering mighty Aussies.

Mohammed Ashraful
- Well, less said is better. But you can never count him out.
Despite all his inabilities, he still have the highest individual test score (158), highest number of test centuries (5) and second highest total run in test for Bangladesh.
3/10 top test innings for Bangladesh still belongs to Ashraful (158, 136, 129).
3rd and 6th wicket partnership record still belongs to Ash (along his partner, Javed and Mushy respectively)
Have 6 hundred run partnership, which is second highest (Shakib and Mushy got 7 and Tamim got 5)
Can never count him out.

Nazimuddin
- Looked horribly wrong this series, but was the cream of the crop only 2 test earlier. Had a good knock against Pakistan in the first innings of the first test last year. Not one of those players I'd like to have in my team either, but still plenty of time for him to come back in the team.

Shahadat Hussain
Like him or not, he is the ONLY Bangladeshi bowler to have his name at Lord's Honour List, and you want to black list him from national team ??
4th highest wicket taker and the leading one from the active pacers (Mash is not counted since he is not likely to play tests anytime soon again). Have better average than Rubel or Shafiul.
He is always one good 'domestic' game away from making a comeback.
Unfortunate, but thats the reality for our team.

I'm not advocating for any of these players to make a come back right now, but to call out their name and say they should be black listed and never to play for national team, its sounds like a knee jerk reaction from a 13 year old teenage girl.

IMHO, this type of thread should be banned.
Very short sighted and does nothing but spread hatred.
Agree 100%






Though, those above need at least a three years long vacation break from national team!
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All of the blacklisted players, including the ones added later, should play. In fact, I'd like to see great NCL heros like Tushar Imran, Nafees Iqbal, Alok Kapali, Aftab Ahmed, Faisal Hossain "Decans", Robiul Islam, Mehrab "Junior", Farhad Reza, Rajin Saleh, Ziaur Rahman and The Two ShuVos play test cricket. Maybe we should get Loitta to have more than just one Bangladesh team. They're doing it with the UK (England and Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland & The Republic), so why not with us? We simply have too large a population and talent pool to be restricted to just one team.

Pichchi polapian like Bijoy-Tijoy, Shourobh-Mourobh, Soumya-Foumya, Ratul-Matul, Taskin-Maskin, Sohan-Mohan can wait at least a decade.
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Old November 25, 2012, 06:03 AM
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Sohel bhai, as a Cricket Savant, are you planning to be the captain of the second team ?
We will surely vote for you.
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Sohel bhai, as a Cricket Savant, are you planning to be the captain of the second team ?
We will surely vote for you.
I've retired and am partial to Nafees Iqbal fulfilling that old promise. I wouldn't mind being the menu designer.
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Shadat Husain, nazimuddin, sharier nafees.

IMO junaid is still usable but he needs to work out his game abit.
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This seems to be a thread for haters. Recent test results are very much expected tbh. Whether it's duck or 97 I'm still gonna wish for everyone of them to do better in next match. BD is still a learning test side, a minnow in the business with great hope and fan support. We will become #1 inshallah.
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