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Old July 20, 2015, 02:51 PM
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Default An impressive Test statistics for the last 2 years: Bangladesh comes on top of the list.

I was reading an analysis by Sam Sheringham on BBC Sport (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/33593834) in which Sam was giving his view about the recently concluded Lord's Test, and how England could possibly bounce back. Then I came across the following stat, pretty impressive over a 2 years period. You won't normally associate a top order Test batting record with Bangladesh, but here you go..

Keep up the good work boys!!

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Old July 20, 2015, 03:09 PM
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Wow! Thanks for sharing such a great find.
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Old July 20, 2015, 03:37 PM
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It is called - "The Mominul effect."

Kodus to Imrul and Tamimma as well.
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Old July 20, 2015, 04:47 PM
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Thats because of our mighty Mominul
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Old July 20, 2015, 05:12 PM
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It is called - "The Mominul effect."
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Old July 20, 2015, 05:47 PM
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BD test batting is quite decent : 2 players with an average of 40 ( Tamim, Shakib) and a guy with an average over 50.

Add to that Mushfiq, whose average is low because of the terrible starts of his career
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Old July 20, 2015, 06:05 PM
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might as well as rename this thread to the "Mominul Haque Appreciation Thread"
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Old July 20, 2015, 06:36 PM
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Phenomenal dig. Testimony to a) playing more Tests at home and batting paradise of Lanka and b) TIK, IK and MoM doing their job
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Old July 20, 2015, 06:47 PM
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With all due respect most tests you guys play are on pancakes so flat the guy from Man vs Food couldnt stomach them.

But still a good achievement, just prepare better wickets lest I bump my thread in a weeks time.
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Old July 20, 2015, 07:06 PM
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With all due respect most tests you guys play are on pancakes so flat the guy from Man vs Food couldnt stomach them.

But still a good achievement, just prepare better wickets lest I bump my thread in a weeks time.
PAK still rolled us twice for 200 odd. india too with their crappy bowling. Of course we batted poorly but those wickets werent totally flat. Gazi got a hattrick against top order batters on such tracks too! But yes you are right tracks are still probably the flattest out of 10 test nations.

But 5 years ago we didnt have nearly those stats, but the wickets havent changed character.
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Old July 20, 2015, 07:14 PM
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Yes Mominul shares 50% of the credit and the rest of the 50% is shared
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Old July 20, 2015, 07:16 PM
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With all due respect most tests you guys play are on pancakes so flat the guy from Man vs Food couldnt stomach them.

But still a good achievement, just prepare better wickets lest I bump my thread in a weeks time.
So, whenever you praise your pace bowlers, should we undermine them because your pitches favor them ??
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Old July 20, 2015, 07:32 PM
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every time we get on the record books it's because of the pitch or opposition B team etc etc. you all are in denial and just hate to see bd doing well.
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Old July 20, 2015, 07:34 PM
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So, whenever you praise your pace bowlers, should we undermine them because your pitches favor them ??
Yes to a degree.

EG Mooney is the highest wicket taker in the t20 qualifier.

Is he a decent bowler, yeah he's alright.

Is he the best of the Associates, hell no.

So yeah, pitches need to be factored in.

Common sense really, if Bangladesh, as they have been, play all their test games on pancakes. then their statistics will be less impressive than lets say SA, who tend to use more balanced wickets.

Its still a good achievement by our bengal tiger of course, pancakes or not you still gotta put the runs on the board, but at the same time its lessened somewhat by the quality of your test pitches, Thats all I'm saying.

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Old July 20, 2015, 07:36 PM
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every time we get on the record books it's because of the pitch or opposition B team etc etc. you all are in denial and just hate to see bd doing well.
You honestly think BD have the best Top 3 batsmen in test cricket??

I'm hardly a BD hater, but its obvious this stat is helped a lot by your surfaces
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Old July 20, 2015, 07:40 PM
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You honestly think BD have the best Top 3 batsmen in test cricket??

I'm hardly a BD hater, but its obvious this stat is helped a lot by your surfaces
hater is probably too strong a word, you're not that bad actually. they obviously don't have the best 3..but numbers are what they are. whatever the reason...if aust had the best partnership, then it's because of their pitches. pitches are the best batsmen.
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Old July 20, 2015, 09:42 PM
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At least we are batting well at flat tracks. We will learn batting at unflat tracks in due course of times. Most of the other subcontinent super boys haven't yet.

By the way our young generation looks like have learnt a bit. They beat the south African counterpart 5-2 abroad.
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Old July 21, 2015, 01:10 AM
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Donal you have to also discount Indian, Pak, and SL recprds too then. All subcontinent wickets are similar. Yes, BD tracks often are flattest, but actually since the Dhaka test vs Pakistan we've seen pitches with turn, which is as sporting as you will get in Asia. SL had a 600 patrnership at home and racked up 900 in an innigs once.

Also pitches outside Asia can be flat too. Last world cup for example. Also india tour of Aus where Kohli scored 4 tons in 4 tests.
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Old July 21, 2015, 01:25 AM
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Its pointless to be satisfied with such stats when we can't even come close to winning a test in last two years. Our test performance has been pathetic recently
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Old July 21, 2015, 03:23 AM
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Donal you have to also discount Indian, Pak, and SL recprds too then. All subcontinent wickets are similar. Yes, BD tracks often are flattest, but actually since the Dhaka test vs Pakistan we've seen pitches with turn, which is as sporting as you will get in Asia. SL had a 600 patrnership at home and racked up 900 in an innigs once.

Also pitches outside Asia can be flat too. Last world cup for example. Also india tour of Aus where Kohli scored 4 tons in 4 tests.
Our groundsman have NO clue in whatsoever creating a test pitch for 5 days. If its flat for days 2,3 that is ok but the pitch should become abrasive and suit reverse or spin bowling but they don't, the pitch remains the same throughout the 5 days. The mumbai pitch in india is something we should aim for at one our grounds, that is great subcontinental wicket.
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Old July 21, 2015, 06:26 AM
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From 136/1 to 249 allout. World's #1 team on the flatest track. Muhahahaha!!!!

It is time for our bowlers to get in to record books.
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Yes to a degree.

EG Mooney is the highest wicket taker in the t20 qualifier.

Is he a decent bowler, yeah he's alright.

Is he the best of the Associates, hell no.

So yeah, pitches need to be factored in.

Common sense really, if Bangladesh, as they have been, play all their test games on pancakes. then their statistics will be less impressive than lets say SA, who tend to use more balanced wickets.

Its still a good achievement by our bengal tiger of course, pancakes or not you still gotta put the runs on the board, but at the same time its lessened somewhat by the quality of your test pitches, Thats all I'm saying.

Context is important.
I agree.

I never understood the obsession over stats in cricket. It doesn't make sense to put so much emphasis on stats as so much is dictated by pitch conditions. It's not like basketball, soccer, football where the playing surface is always constant. You only have to look at our W/L in Tests to realize how little these stats matter.
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