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Old December 8, 2012, 01:48 AM
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Default Does BD Cricket team need more Debutants?

My answer is 'nope'
1/2 new comers(highest performers of domestic cricket/A team) will be enough for every 1/1.5 years.

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Old December 8, 2012, 01:57 AM
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Keno bhai, Eto taratari pet Bhorey gese??

This is what happens when you don't prepare a player before bringing in to National team. We have the resources in hand to run a HP camp for conditioning and fine tuning a player before bringing him in, but we simply don't have the understanding of the game.

We abuse the standard of NCL 24 hours and use that stat to blindly support bringing them into the national team. We will never improve as a nation in cricket....we are best in turning our best talents into bits and pieces cricketers due to our ignorance and stubbornness....

Good luck with test status...
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Old December 8, 2012, 02:05 AM
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My answer is also nope.
Is there any statistics that how many players we debut in each year ? I think not.
Whats the profit of debuting some players, playing with them and throw them out, the cycle continues. as a result we have some individual performances to win some matches of BD but the BD cricket team is not building. We still remain a team with young and talented players lack of experience, lack of techniques to over come tough situations of the game. We still miss a player like samuels, Chanderpaul, Sammy atleast. There is no one to shoulder the game. Only hit 4's & 6's. In certain day's it works, but most of the day's it not. We just want to win but don't think for future. We talk about consistency, don't give time to be consistent. Think about the other teams of the world, they always try to stick to their main players. If anybody in any position done very good in the domestic or in age group team, he only gets chance if the national team player in his position not doing well enough to serve the team. This should be the culture here. No # 3 batsman should be replaced by a no # 3, no. # 7 should be replaced by a no # 7 not just give a batsman or bowler or all rounder give a debut and let him play anywhere.
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Old December 8, 2012, 02:06 AM
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We need a complete new team. A new XI.
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Old December 8, 2012, 02:17 AM
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We need a complete new team. A new XI.
any suggestion plz for the complete new team ??
we already have a new XI, compare this team to the BD cricket team 4-5 years earlier, then it will be clear.
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Old December 8, 2012, 02:28 AM
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Michael Hussey had to prove himself for over ten years before he got a break with the Aussie team. In these ten years he scored plenty of runs for Western Australia and had three different stints with 3 different county teams. Most other Aussie players have to go through to the same ordeal to earn the baggy green cap. Phillip Hughes who is expected to replace Ponting has been one of Australia's brightest prospects for a long time. He had an early stint, then was dropped and now has had to fight his way back to the team with county stints in Hampshire, Worcestershire, Middlesex.

Really wish we can make a player work like this to earn a spot in our team. Unfortunately we lack the first team depth and have to resort to youngsters continuously-who despite their Under 19 success lack maturity for the big stage. Existing players take their place for granted. Emerging players know it wont be too difficult to get a place in the squad. And top of that the press, we the fans have no patience whatsoever. If a player does badly, we ask for his head. If he hits a century, we make him the next Tendulkar. Whoever does well in first class, we are too impatient to see him in national colors. Unless we find a way to reverse this Bangladesh cricket will never improve.
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Old December 8, 2012, 02:32 AM
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Yes We need more to make some people happy.

We never give chance to those who got dropped and doing well in domestic leagues. Boyosh 27/28 hoye gele ar chance deya hoi na. Ar onno deshe 30 er beshi boyoshe debut kore.

We have no future.
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Old December 8, 2012, 02:54 AM
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Yes We need more to make some people happy.

We never give chance to those who got dropped and doing well in domestic leagues. Boyosh 27/28 hoye gele ar chance deya hoi na. Ar onno deshe 30 er beshi boyoshe debut kore.

We have no future.
It only happens in BD, we throw away experienced players who perform/performed....for struggling new comers....and just hope that they will be better....patience develops with age, you will never see a test team anywhere in the world, packed with teenagers....because its a game of patience.....and experience is essential for that...even ODI batting needs patience.....and we rather promote professional grade impatience by rewarding them....

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Old December 8, 2012, 03:05 AM
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It only happens in BD, we throw away experienced players who perform/performed....for struggling new comers...
I am curious, which experienced performing player did we throw away?
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Old December 8, 2012, 03:41 AM
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NCL is quality first class cricket by any standard. Naturally players who perform there over a single season are more than ready to decimate the G8 in all 3 formats, not including EA and Tea Stall Cricket. So a brand spanking new XI every year is the way to go because we need to assess NCL performance for at least one season. Then again, there are players there who become ready after a single marquee performance.

Furthermore, there's absolutely no need to actually watch any of the NCL matches. There's no need to really understand the game either as long as agile copy/pasting from expert sources makes us appear as one in the process. Improvement is overrated as are grammatically correct sentences composed in unadulterated English.
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Old December 8, 2012, 11:33 AM
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I am curious, which experienced performing player did we throw away?
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Old December 8, 2012, 11:46 AM
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Does BD Cricket team need more Debutant?

The answer is it depends on:
- current team's weakness and need
- new player's quality and readiness.

For example, we used to hear new players are not ready, we need to stick with the same 21 players. Even Siddon have that same policy. Some players in the team under performed and repeatedly made same mistakes and still we stayed with the same player with the excuse we don't have young players to replace them.

Now look ... the selectors have taken some very bold decisions and they were rewarded: Shohag, Anamul, Mominul, Abul... they all showed promise and hope. Plus Nasir is performing in key moments even in his off form.

So My motto is "No Risk no Gain"... you need to take calculative risks .... you cannot wait and wait for perfect situation for new player in the team... if the team needs and if a young player show he is ready, you need to take risk.

btw we are not Australia, so comparing with them is not going to fly... they can wait ... we cannot.
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Old December 8, 2012, 11:50 AM
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next in line

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marshall ayub
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Old December 8, 2012, 12:01 PM
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Motin
Yeah right.. khekz

I was also thinking which experienced player did we leave out
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Old December 8, 2012, 06:54 PM
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It depends! if they're so talented and talked about then you can seriously consider but at the moment, we're over doing it a bit so I'd say keep it down for the moment and the people who just debuted, stick with them for a while even if they perform bad. The only player right now that I will consider using for the national team is Marshall Ayub who bowls very good leg spin, another all-rounder I should say. Just imagine Shakib SLA, Gazi off and Marshall Leg in the same line-up that's variety a captain and coach would want ideally.
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