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Old April 29, 2013, 08:44 AM
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Rahim's weakness is definetely his inability to use his resources properly and iability setting up right fielding based on the bowler's strength and game situation. However he brings value as an "uniter" and a "leader who can lead by example" and is not afraid to speak up as a leader to defend his team.

As a short term I would rather select different captains for different formats and see how it works out and if we really have any alternatives.
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Old April 29, 2013, 10:31 AM
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We all know of Mushfiq's tactical deficiency, but Fazal points out his pluses. He is smart and hopefully will realize his deficiencies and ask better tacticians for advice on the field. (Like Imran used to ask Miandad.)

In the team, Ash appears to be the best tactician, but a captain has to be a no-doubt selection. Perhaps, he could be the T20 captain. That is the format where his rash batting does the least damage.
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Old April 29, 2013, 10:34 AM
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i hope he set up a plan to build the team for test in years to come. Since he is young and might need to lead this team for long time he should have a vision.
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Old April 29, 2013, 11:21 AM
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he is the most brain dead captain i have ever seen in my life, even more brain dead then HaBa
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Old April 29, 2013, 11:23 AM
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Whos vc atm?? Any idea? Ash??
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Old April 29, 2013, 11:26 AM
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he is the most brain dead captain i have ever seen in my life, even more brain dead then HaBa
No, that is going too far. Bashar was much "better."
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Old April 29, 2013, 11:33 AM
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Plus:
  1. Uniter.
  2. Can get everyone on the same page.

Minus:
  1. Horrible tactician, bowling rotation, and field placement.
  2. Has no idea how to manage bowlers' workload.

However, there is no ready replacement for him. Perhaps, someone like Nasir might be better one day. But, for now he is 'it.'
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Old April 29, 2013, 11:40 AM
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he needs a dedicated trainer only for him who can give him lessons of captaincy
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Old April 30, 2013, 11:53 AM
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Isam on Mushy's captaincy:

Mushfiqur too has been too reliant on
whoever does well with the ball. He probably
doesn't believe in short spells, so even the
pace bowlers ended up bowling long spells. It
becomes easier for a batsman to predict
what would come next from a certain angle.
His field placings too have been on the
defensive side, especially when the batsmen
had flirted with danger.
However, Mushfiqur has shown a lot of
courage over the last few months, and not
just on the field. The decision to drop vice-
captain Mahmudullah was the "toughest" in
his captaincy. It sounds easy especially when
a man is out of sorts, but you don't want to
drop your deputy ahead of a crucial game.
That was a signature move for Mushfiqur
from these two Tests: the guts to take the
tough decisions and stand by them.
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Old April 30, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Captains should be awared on a Series by Series Basis
That doesn't work with our culture at all and where it can, even they won't try. Captain has a lot to do even when there isn't any series. Bonding and uniting doesn't happen overnight during a series...
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Old April 30, 2013, 10:34 PM
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ODI te Ki je decision nibe Allahaei Janen especially his field placement and bowler changing decisions
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Old May 1, 2013, 03:28 PM
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Don't worry, he will make up with his batting.

In top of that:
  • He will not have to worry when to take power play.
  • Field restriction will force him to be less defensive.
  • He cannot overuse any bowler.
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Old May 1, 2013, 11:04 PM
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Mushfiq's field setting is ideal for Limited Over cricket but definitely not in Tests.

I think he needs to be guided by the head coach and other coaching staff. I think shane has some role to play on the on-field decisions. You simply cannot put all the blame on Mushy alone
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Old May 1, 2013, 11:12 PM
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I think he needs to be guided by the head coach and other coaching staff. I think shane has some role to play on the on-field decisions. You simply cannot put all the blame on Mushy alone
I wish it is as simple as how Mushy played the translator role for Robiul. A captian need to play his role specially on-field decisions, a coach can only help so much in that aspect ... ball by ball/over by over decisions. other senior players can provide more help than a coach in that aspect.

Mushy have enough experience and he should either able to handle that role or give up captaincy.
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he needs a dedicated trainer only for him who can give him lessons of captaincy
He needs a 1 month intense session with Ian Chappell or Mike Brearley. First two weeks of intense lessons and then oral exams with questions re hypothetical situations. Corporeal punishment not allowed after dumb answers!
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^^ He also can't use the word "definitely" at the start of every sentence.
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^^ He also can't use the word "definitely" at the start of every sentence.
Definitely he cannot!
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Old May 2, 2013, 01:51 PM
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Lets see what are the choices other than Mushy -

Ash - An under cooked brain, in between human and ape. Of course, the guy is very talented, his current batting average is due to the overall affect of unbelievable talent and half-cooked brain. He may be a good choice but he may cost the heart (failure) of 50% supporter and rest 50% without any hair.

Shak -Very talented player, smart brain with almost no academics. You will not find a team under him. He is like the first boy in the class who wants to be friend with only second (Tamim) boy and screw up his head. You will hear frequent swearing in microphone and view, some times, middle finger to give proper impression of a national captain. Even a selfless player like Mashrafe can't guarantee a place under him.

Tamim: He will say I am the macho man and all the bowlers are ordinary. Being with SHakib in early age, he also learnt swearing and attitude. In terms of brain, I left it to you all

Mash: A great pacer, humble man, born fighter but most of the time Lula. I wish he is fit and would have been a great ambassador for the country as a captain

Anamul - He will left the team in middle of next mission and call it an 'exam time'. Also, he is hatti hatti pa pa kid, others will take his pant off while playing swimming swimming

Mominul - I think a jabardast maal (in good sense) he will end up in future but he is also a shishu (hatti hatti pa pa)..uporantu ekkebare lajuk lata

Zahurul - He is learning brain stuff from Ash, so I see no future in him

Nafees: Half the time he will be in Taableague and when he will be batting, throw his kodal (bat) in 45 deg for some quick run as if his sathis are calling him for a 3 day chilla. Being in Taableague he is always in Dyaan, so moves very slow and can't put him in slip, cover boundary, so where to hide? He may be a superb captain but you need first find a place on where to hide him during fielding

Shohag - Another shishu but promising, you can see his courage while batting or bowling. He is pure a GAJI-R BETA but only problem he is still a calf with nail and tooth yet to mature. Like Anamul his pant may be stripped off by the team during swiming swiming khela

Rajjak - EI Vatiza test-er shomoy barit boisha muri khai, ODI bowling good, but anytime he bats in crucial situation, it will be like asia cup

Nasir: A great guy, batsman, mature head but you dont wanna spoil such a talent by risking captaincy.
Rabiul: He will made sure any fakibaaz player in the team bowls 50 overs in an innings. So even though the guy is honest, others will be against him
Rubel/Shafiul - Adha lula, adha lengra

Ziaur - To early with his frequent injuries and bad knee

Now you should know..who to call? MUSHYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyy
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I have got a revolutionary idea- how about we implement Buchanan’s four captains theory but with a touch of innovation. We can have 3 on-field captains and 1 off-field captain. Ash, Mush and Shak can be the on-field captains. This way we can make sure when Mushy becomes brain-dead he gets a ‘Thua’ at the back of his head from Shakib and forced to rotate bowlers and set attacking fielders as per Shakib’s instruction. Ash’s main duty will be to cheers the boys up on the field, bowl the number of overs he wants and bat at the position he likes. Mash can be the off-field captain. The difference between the off-field captain and the coach will be that the off-field captain could carry drinks, bats and towels to the players and field as the twelfth man when necessary. The rest of the time he will help practice and give pep talk to the batsmen/bowlers waiting to take the field. He will also take part in the off-field planning and preparation. We need a pace bowling coach/mentor anyway. Since he won’t have to bowl and bat he will stay injury-free as well. Don’t you like my idea!
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Shane warne, Mcgragh used to joke about Buchanan..now I know why..he later became the coach of knight riders and as usual he screwed up..because he didn't have mcgrah and warne..Buchanan beta asholei pagol..
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He needs a 1 month intense session with Ian Chappell or Mike Brearley. First two weeks of intense lessons and then oral exams with questions re hypothetical situations. Corporeal punishment not allowed after dumb answers!
Or he can read Sun Tzu or watch Red Cliff, or brush up on our 1971 history, how we actually fought.
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Old May 3, 2013, 12:27 AM
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Strip Mushfiqur?

Chee chee chee.
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Strip Mushfiqur?

Chee chee chee.
lol thread title says captaincy not clothes!!
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Choto bacchaderke nengta korate khub ekta problem nai
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