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Old December 7, 2012, 03:20 AM
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This kinda sums up the thread.

It is quite ridiculous to judge ANY head coach on results when they are inheriting a set up someone else implemented, good or bad. Law took a wait and see approach, Pybus didn't even wipe his face. The only person who has got to grips with the players has been Jamie Siddons in his 4 year stay. And when it came to it, Jamie Siddons lost his job because the 58 and 78 were too much to take as he was batting coach. The batsmen were just not improving.

I can tell you as a support coach that you have a huge role to play in your specialised department and any coach should be judged on this, as Jamie was.

Shane's time as bowling coach has been terribly disappointing. Even he would acknowledge that. Shane was also in charge of NZ bowling when they lost 4-0 on BD. In the past two seasons the BD pace attack, instead of getting better and being made secure, has just dropped away. In the national team he has virtually no one left to work with.

I like Shane as a bloke. Very nice guy. I can understand why he might be popular with the players as he most likely let's them do what they wish and is probably not allowed to change anything. It would be good to see in 6 months time if has been able to make a difference as interim HC and then assess if he is someone who can be a leader. I suspect Shane isn't leading, though, at this time as he won't have normal HC powers.
We don't need a Wright or dada - a high profile "noban or raja' likle coach

RATHER,
We need a cubsitter, who would have the care, love and passion to take care of the Bagla kids!

Shane has it, you got it and Jamie had it.
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Old December 7, 2012, 03:48 AM
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We don't need a Wright or dada - a high profile "noban or raja' likle coach

RATHER,
We need a cubsitter, who would have the care, love and passion to take care of the Bagla kids!

Shane has it, you got it and Jamie had it.
You also need someone who actually does coaching too, bhai.

Care, love and passion are wonderful. But also required is someone who can get the best from the players and be STRONG when they need to be.

The players like Tamim, Mash and Shakib will eat a 'weak' coach for breakfast. Sometimes a coach is popular because they can be manipulated, don't forget that.
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Old December 7, 2012, 04:53 AM
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A man who can not handle his family properly how can he lead a nation ?
Pace department in dire straits.
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Old December 7, 2012, 04:59 AM
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^exactly my point. What has he done with our fast bowlers?
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Old December 7, 2012, 07:23 AM
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A man who can not handle his family properly how can he lead a nation ?
Pace department in dire straits.
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Old December 7, 2012, 07:57 AM
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Sigh. Problem doesnt seem to be skill, its more about handling pressure. We might us well hire someone from the Navy SEALS
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Old December 7, 2012, 07:57 AM
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I think we should wait till the series ends...
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Old December 7, 2012, 08:05 AM
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Yeah let's make Jurgensen the HC coz he provides tender loving care to our kidz. He must be doing a good job feeding them milk and helping them wear diapers.
Hey, I have a better plan. My cousin had a baby just a few days back. Why doesn't Jurgensen come and be the nanny he was destined to become?
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Old December 7, 2012, 10:19 AM
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Shane Jurgensen should certainly NOT be appointed as head coach
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Old December 7, 2012, 10:39 AM
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Shane is good looking. Enough said!!!
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Old December 7, 2012, 10:45 AM
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Fire Shane. Appoint Saqlain as the head coach and hire a batting and pace bowling coach.
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Old December 8, 2012, 12:51 PM
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I think we should wait till the series ends...
Well, there are scope for a thought here...I am all for a good heart, hard working and a passionate coach rather go for a "high profile" vacation lover!
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Old December 8, 2012, 12:54 PM
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I kind of agree with KP bhai. Shane must not be very high profile but he possesses the ability to motivate the players.

And about making Dada the head coach? Now I dont know whether to laugh or cry. He talks a lot without much sense like many others.
And what I've seen he is very friendly with the boys... Very popular among them..
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Old December 8, 2012, 12:55 PM
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He just booked it! Congrats in advance
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Old December 8, 2012, 12:57 PM
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And what I've seen he is very friendly with the boys... Very popular among them..

makes WONDERS!
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Old December 8, 2012, 01:01 PM
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He is a bowling coach. And he failed in that department.

He couldnt improve any pacers. He couldnt even improve raju.

So a big NO from me.

We need a good pace bowling coach. Shane needs to go.
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Old December 8, 2012, 01:02 PM
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^ Hahahaha the above post by Kalpurush is full of win !
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Old December 8, 2012, 01:04 PM
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He is a bowling coach. And he failed in that department.

He couldnt improve any pacers. He couldnt even improve raju.

So a big NO from me.

We need a good pace bowling coach. Shane needs to go.
Shaf was quite succesful [albeit the sample size is small]. Mash kept his cool even when attacked by Gayle, and came up on top.
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Old December 8, 2012, 01:07 PM
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He is a bowling coach. And he failed in that department.

He couldnt improve any pacers. He couldnt even improve raju.

So a big NO from me.

We need a good pace bowling coach. Shane needs to go.
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Also, Mash did bowl very well. Rubel got one over messed up - but could have happened to anyone.

Anyway, all I am for is a good coach who will bring his heart and soul for the tigers along with his skills ):
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Old December 8, 2012, 01:07 PM
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I am impressed how we dealt with each Windies players, especially how we kept Gayle quiet. Kudos to the coaching staff for coming up with effective strategies. I don't see any reason to make any change with current team management.
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Old December 8, 2012, 01:11 PM
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I am impressed how we dealt with each Windies players, especially how we kept Gayle quiet. Kudos to the coaching staff for coming up with effective strategies. I don't see any reason to make any change with current team management.


I am too impressed how effective and brilliant the team stretegies were in the whole series. Even we have lost both tests, we did well IMHO. Could have won the first test though.
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Old December 8, 2012, 01:12 PM
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Guys dont give the stat for this series.

Hes been with the team for 2 years.
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Kalpurush, that was some deep issh man!
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Old December 8, 2012, 01:13 PM
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I am impressed how we dealt with each Windies players, especially how we kept Gayle quiet. Kudos to the coaching staff for coming up with effective strategies. I don't see any reason to make any change with current team management.
For that saqlain deserves more credit. Its our spinners who troubled him more.
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Old December 8, 2012, 01:15 PM
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I am too impressed how effective and brilliant the team stretegies were in the whole series. Even we have lost both tests, we did well IMHO. Could have won the first test though.
Building a good Test team will take lot more work, you can't expect coaching staff alone to do all. We need to fix our FC league first.
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