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Old January 9, 2013, 01:51 PM
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Dickens is Bd's Graham Hick. In international becomes a chicken. But, I like Faisal Hossain (Dickens) he has been quite an outstanding performer in our FC league. Unfortunately, was from the wrong generation and, therefore, lack of quality coaching and cricket.

Marshall Ayub has been competing during arguably the best BD (professional) cricket generation. Therefore, he should be of different mould.
Dickens is one of the best bd batsman against spin and one of the worst against fast bowling. Grame hick would commit suicide if he gets to know that he is being compared with someone like dickens...
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Old January 9, 2013, 01:53 PM
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2 double in a season can be anything but a fluke. I am really impressed with him. He is much better than Naeem. We can try Marshal at number 3
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Old January 9, 2013, 02:15 PM
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2 double in a season can be anything but a fluke. I am really impressed with him. He is much better than Naeem. We can try Marshal at number 3
Ayub is looking good, but the question is how he will fare when facing international bowling.
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Old January 9, 2013, 02:28 PM
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Dickens is one of the best bd batsman against spin and one of the worst against fast bowling. Grame hick would commit suicide if he gets to know that he is being compared with someone like dickens...
Graeme Has over 100 FC tons! And averages over 50 but in TEST cricket -and after playing plenty -he averages an Ashraful like 30 something. Thats a huge drop in average in REAL cricket. Interestingly, Hicks nickname is Ash, too. I think Ash will throw up if he found out this unflattering similarity!

Dickens not the only chicken in the coop. Mr. Hick is there, too. Like it or not.
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Old January 9, 2013, 02:47 PM
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Need to give this guy a chance at no. 3 in tests. Tired of seeing the endless cycle of Junaid, Nafees and Ash.
same here.
And what is more impressive is that it's not like he scored a double from nowhere but has been consistent for a long time, he is confident, I think he is ready to face atleast an average Srilankan attack.
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Old January 9, 2013, 04:12 PM
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Hope he is not named after "field MARSHAL AYUB khan"... would suck if true...
That's pretty obvious isn't it? Yeah that sucks but it's not his fault.
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Old January 9, 2013, 04:28 PM
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Hope he is not named after "field MARSHAL AYUB khan"... would suck if true...
His parents were fond of Ex cricketer of WI ... Marshal and BD Singer .... Ayub Bachu.... So they named him ... Marshal Ayub....

In shadin Bangladesh you can't have anyone being inspired by the one you mentioned....
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Old January 9, 2013, 04:32 PM
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His parents were fond of Ex cricketer of WI ... Marshal and BD Singer .... Ayub Bachu.... So they named him ... Marshal Ayub....

In shadin Bangladesh you can't have anyone being inspired by the one you mentioned....
If his parents were soo fond of brainless dictators than Bangladesh had many too (zia, Ershad etc)... So why choose someone from another country, that is my only enigma...
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Old January 9, 2013, 04:39 PM
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His grand father named Marshall Ayub according to Prothom Alo interview. But IMO his grand father named him after the name of Field Marshall Ayub Khan.
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If his parents were soo fond of brainless dictators than Bangladesh had many too (zia, Ershad etc)... So why choose someone from another country, that is my only enigma...
Or even Mujib.... But I'm sure it's not that Ayub....because I have seen a few people inspired by that guy, but they kept it along with Khan....

So, I'm pretty confident it's the other one I said. His parents aren't supposed to be that old to have a hangover of Ayub Khan...
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Old January 9, 2013, 06:34 PM
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Perfect time to debut Marshall Ayub. Sri Lanka have an average pace attack. He should be able to handle it since he is in such good form.
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so we have all decided that naeem out ayub in ???? and mehrab to open with tamim in SL tests ???
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Old January 9, 2013, 07:16 PM
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so we have all decided that naeem out ayub in ???? and mehrab to open with tamim in SL tests ???
Accha; BC-er decision ki selector ra porey naki? seriously.
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I am against dropping Naeem in Tests. at least give him a proper run. let's he how he fares in the upcoming tests...
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Old January 9, 2013, 08:04 PM
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so we have all decided that naeem out ayub in ???? and mehrab to open with tamim in SL tests ???
Who have decided?
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Old January 9, 2013, 08:56 PM
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‘দুটি ডাবল সেঞ্চুরি ভাবতেও পারিনি’

জাতীয় লিগে করেছিলেন ডাবল সেঞ্চুরি। কাল বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট লিগে বগুড়ায় দিন শেষে অপরাজিত ২৫১ রানে। প্রথম শ্রেণীর ক্রিকেটে পঞ্চম উইকেটে বাংলাদেশের সবচেয়ে বেশি রানের জুটির রেকর্ড গড়ার পর এখন হাতছানি বিশ্ব রেকর্ডের। এই ম্যাচ, দারুণ কাটানো এই মৌসুম ও ভবিষ্যৎ ভাবনা নিয়ে কাল মুঠোফোনে কথা বললেন মার্শাল আইয়ুব
 রেকর্ডের কথা জানেন?
মার্শাল আইয়ুব: বাংলাদেশের রেকর্ডের কথা আগেই জানতাম। আমিই তো ছিলাম ওই রেকর্ডে, আশরাফুল ভাইয়ের সঙ্গে (৪২০)। বিশ্ব রেকর্ডের এত কাছে চলেছি এসেছি জানতাম না। মেহরাব ভাইয়ের কাছ থেকেই শুনলাম।
 মানে, মাঠেই জানতেন রেকর্ড গড়েছেন?
মার্শাল: রেকর্ডটা আমার ছিল, এ জন্যই হয়তো আমার মাথায় আসলে সেভাবে ছিল না। মেহরাব ভাই মনে করিয়ে দিলেন। এর আগে ওনার সঙ্গে আমার একটা জুটি ছিল ৩৭০ রানের মতো। ওটা পার হয়ে যাওয়ার পরই মেহরাব ভাই এসে বলল রেকর্ডটা ভাঙার কথা। এরপর আমরা চেষ্টা করেছি আর কোনো ঝুঁকি না নিতে। এক-এক করে খেলে রেকর্ডটা ভেঙেছি।
 বিশ্ব রেকর্ড, নিজের ট্রিপল সেঞ্চুরি, অনেক কিছুর হাতছানি। চাপ না রোমাঞ্চ, কোনটা বেশি?
মার্শাল: বাংলাদেশের একমাত্র ট্রিপল সেঞ্চুরিয়ান (রকিবুল হাসান) আমাদের দলেই আছে, দলের বাকি সবাইও বলছেন, ‘তিন শ হয়ে যাবে।’ যত যা-ই বলি, চাপ তো কিছু থাকবেই। রোমাঞ্চও আছে। তবে আমি ওসব নিয়ে খুব ভাবছি না। কালকে (আজ) যতক্ষণ পারা যায় ব্যাটিং করার চেষ্টা করব। উইকেট খুবই ভালো, শুধু সকালে ৫-৬ ওভার টিকে থাকতে পারলে সমস্যা হওয়ার কথা নয়। দলের দিক থেকেও কোনো তাড়া নেই।
 মেহরাবের সঙ্গে অনেক বড় বড় জুটি গড়েছেন। এটার রহস্য কী?
মার্শাল: আমাদের দুজনের মধ্যে আসলে অনেক প্রতিদ্বন্দ্বিতা দুজনে পাল্লা দিয়ে রান করি। দুজনেই চাই আরেকজনের চেয়ে বেশি রান করতে। উনিও এবার খুব ভালো ফর্মে আছেন। আমি চারে ব্যাট করি, উনি পাঁচে। এ জন্যই এত জুটি হয়েছে। ব্যাটিং করতে করতেই বোঝাপড়া ভালো হয়ে গেছে।
 ২৫০ করে ফেলেছেন, নিজের কাছে অবিশ্বাস্য লাগছে না?
মার্শাল: ঠিক অবিশ্বাস্য নয়...প্রথম ডাবল সেঞ্চুরিটার সময় অনেক বেশি রোমাঞ্চিত ছিলাম। দুই শ করার স্বপ্ন ছিল অনেক দিনের। এবারও ভালো লেগেছে, তিন শ করতে পারলে হয়তো আরও বেশি ভালো লাগবে।
 ২০০ করার স্বপ্ন ছিল, এবার এক মৌসুমেই দুটি ডাবল সেঞ্চুরি হয়ে গেল!
মার্শাল: দুটো ডাবল সেঞ্চুরি আসলে ভাবতেও পারিনি। এই মৌসুমটাই খুব ভালো যাচ্ছে। জাতীয় লিগে রান পেয়েছি, এই টুর্নামেন্টটাও ভালো যাচ্ছে।
 গত কয়েক মৌসুমের পারফরম্যান্স বিবেচনা করলে এই মৌসুমে আপনার পারফরম্যান্স তো অবিশ্বাস্য। এভাবে ঘুরে দাঁড়ানোর রহস্য কী?
মার্শাল: রহস্য কিছু নেই। আগে খুব বেশি শট খেলতাম। এখন শুরুতে গিয়েই শট না খেলে সেট হওয়ার চেষ্টা করি। শট খেলা কমিয়ে দেওয়া শুধু শুরুতেই নয়, পরেও। আগে যত শট পারি, সব খেলার চেষ্টা করতাম। কিন্তু এখন ম্যাচিউরড হয়েছি। বুঝি যে চাইলেও সব শট খেলা যায় না, খেলা ঠিকও নয়।
 ব্যাটিং নিয়ে আলাদা কোনো কাজ করেছেন?
মার্শাল: সেভাবে কিছু নয়। ‘এ’ দলের ক্যাম্পে তিন মাস বাড়তি খেটেছি। অনেকগুলো ড্রিল শিখেছি সে সময়, যেগুলো এখন নিজে নিজেই করি। আমার মনে হয়, ব্যাটিংয়ে আমার মনোযোগটা আগের চেয়ে অনেক বেড়েছে। এখন অনেক বেশি ফোকাসড।
 অনূর্ধ্ব-১৯ পর্যায়ে আপনার সমসাময়িক খেলোয়াড়েরা আজ জাতীয় দলে দাপটে খেলছেন, খেলেছেন। আপনি এখনো সুযোগই পেলেন না....
মার্শাল: খারাপ তো লাগেই, মাঝেমধ্যে খুব কষ্ট লাগে। আমি কখনোই খুব ধারাবাহিক হতে পারিনি। একটা-দুটো বড় ইনিংস হয়তো মাঝেমধ্যে খেলেছি, কিন্তু ধারাবাহিকভাবে বড় ইনিংস ছিল না। এ জন্যই এবার লক্ষ্য ছিল জাতীয় লিগে সর্বোচ্চ রান করা। সেটা হয়েছে। এখানেও ভালো করছি। আশা করছি, সামনে সুযোগ আসবে। দুটি ডাবল সেঞ্চুরি করেছি, নির্বাচকেরা নিশ্চয়ই দেখবেন এটা।
 শেষ প্রশ্ন, আপনার নাম নিয়ে সবারই অনেক কৌতূহল। এমন নামের উৎস কী?
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Old January 9, 2013, 09:00 PM
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It's sure good to hear he finally learnt he has to be selective with his shots!
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Old January 9, 2013, 09:06 PM
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Don't see any merit behind the call for his inclusion in the national team as one down though. He always played as a middle order batsman. All those tons of runs in domestic leagues only says he may be a decent player against spin, we still have no idea how he will fare against quality pace.
Only place up for grab I see, for him, is that of Mominul.
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Old January 9, 2013, 10:42 PM
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Can we change his name? This is the name of the infamous Pakistani dictator of the 60s . To give a child this name in Bangladesh is an insult to our history. It will be disgraceful if a player by this name represents Bangladesh.
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Old January 9, 2013, 10:47 PM
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in an interview, long long ago, his father clarified it!
he named his son after west indian great Malcom Marshall & Indian off-spinner Arshad Ayub.
Pure BS by the father...

(good luck to the kid anyway!)
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Old January 9, 2013, 10:50 PM
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Can we change his name? This is the name of the infamous Pakistani dictator of the 60s . To give a child this name in Bangladesh is an insult to our history. It will be disgraceful if a player by this name represents Bangladesh.
Naam diye ki hoy, kaje manusher porichoy.

Should he prove himself in t20 to get included in test team. He might need to do that according to bc policy.we have tendency to select player for wrong format.
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Ayub is looking good, but the question is how he will fare when facing international bowling.
Thats why he need to face them
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Scoring a double or a triple hundred is always meaningful. It is a testament to the batsman's temperament and particularly in Bangladesh, the rare ability to sustain focus.

That being said, we must put these scores in qualitative context. The difference in quality between our FCs and those of other test playing nations is quite substantial. The less said about the difference between our domestic and the highest level, the better. In other words, just because someone puts up big numbers in our domestics when more established of our international cricketers cannot, does NOT mean they're good enough to succeed or sustain success at the highest level.

Ability to correctly respond to a variety of quality attacks in genuinely competitive situations matters and without actually witnessing these matches or thanks to our pontificating and underachieving journos who merely summarize match statistics, it is impossible to assess such ability. The fact that many allegedly passionate cricket fans and copy/pasting (from CI) BS ("balling-stamping") experts (who don't really read what they copy/paste) don't really recognize ability because they don't fully understand what's going on in front of their eyes also doesn't help. We need foreign, professional scouts and reporters to go to these matches and put these numbers in context.
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Old January 10, 2013, 12:49 AM
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Looks like that is a very grassy wicket they're playing on. Looks a green top fa show.
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