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Old April 20, 2013, 10:10 AM
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Default Post-mortem of first test against ZIM

Murphy's Law was in full force. Everything that could go wrong, did.
  1. We were short one seamer.
  2. We dropped lollies on the first day.
  3. Our batsmen could not curb their attacking instinct in either inning.
  4. Brandon Taylor was un-outable in both inning.
  5. Our batsmen did not learn from their first-inning mistakes.

What to do next?
  1. Play an extra seamer (not named Shahadat).
  2. Bring in Mominul.
  3. Drop SN and Ash.
  4. Drop Riyad from the test team.
  5. Practice, practice, practice. Make them watch the entire Hanif Muhammad inning in its entirety. At least twice.
  6. Warn them that any ultra-aggressive shot will drop them off the team.

It can be only up from here.
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Old April 20, 2013, 10:17 AM
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What did ash do?
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Old April 20, 2013, 10:19 AM
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Mongongo really looked liked he cared. When they were over pitching he was angry and sent a message every time also Grant Flower. While it looked like our management had no say and involvement and just let it be. They have got be strict and we bengalis learn things the hard way.
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Old April 20, 2013, 10:20 AM
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Why did you bowl first? Don't have the balls to bat first??
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Old April 20, 2013, 10:21 AM
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Dude....are u out of your mind. Why on earth you want to drop Ash? He is the only player tried to play the game as it should be.
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Old April 20, 2013, 10:24 AM
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Juttar bari na dawa projonto shikbe na.
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Old April 20, 2013, 10:35 AM
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Zim has been smarter than us in every dept inside or outside the ground.

I will write in details later on. Now going for some amatory walk/jog suggested by doc.
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Old April 20, 2013, 10:48 AM
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Shuzi ma mayne. This performance doesn't deserve a post -portem. Just bury the body, no need for post-portem.

I won't even do a report card because this batting performance doesn't deserve that.
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Old April 20, 2013, 10:49 AM
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It hurts.
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Old April 20, 2013, 11:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shuziburo
Murphy's Law was in full force. Everything that could go wrong, did.
  1. We were short one seamer.
  2. We dropped lollies on the first day.
  3. Our batsmen could not curb their attacking instinct in either inning.
  4. Brandon Taylor was un-outable in both inning.
  5. Our batsmen did not learn from their first-inning mistakes.

What to do next?
  1. Play an extra seamer (not named Shahadat).
  2. Bring in Mominul.
  3. Drop SN and Ash.
  4. Drop Riyad from the test team.
  5. Practice, practice, practice. Make them watch the entire Hanif Muhammad inning in its entirety. At least twice.
  6. Warn them that any ultra-aggressive shot will drop them off the team.

It can be only up from here.

bhai eta ki koilen. ek matro ash e to khelche test, baki ra ki khelche orai jane.
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Old April 20, 2013, 11:06 AM
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ash ke drop korar somoy asenai..finally he is showing some consistency..i would take a 30 avg(from now) ash over any jodu modu
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Old April 20, 2013, 01:26 PM
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Nafees should make way for Tamim, Riyad for Mominul for sure.

Not sure what we should do for the bowlers. Enamul wasn't bad and replacing Gazi will only make our tail longer. Maybe Rubel can make way for Sajidul - though to be fair, Rubel was better in Zim than he was in SL, particularly in the first innings.

Usually it's our openers who fall early and our lower order saves their butts, but this time our openers stuck around and everyone else capitulated. Dunno what we can do if Shakib, Nasir and Mushfiq don't buckle down :/
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Old April 20, 2013, 01:56 PM
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Murphy's law na bujhe proyog kora thik na.

Ash chara oi bouncy pitch-e dara-be ke? Shakib/Mushy? hahah..

In test, you need 6 solid batsman and 4 bowlers based on condition. In this bouncy condition our top 6 batsman would be -

1. Tamim
2. Ash
3. Mominul
4. Nasir
5. Shak
6. Mushi

In this condition, there are some murgi batsman (sorry, ei batting rat jege dekhe matha thik nai):
1. Sahreer Mofiz
2. MUllah
3. Zahurul

In this condition only bowlers we have is Robiul, Take 2 other seamers and Shak to fill-up spin quota.

So, the players to take is -

1. Tamim
2. Ash
3. Mominul
4. Nasir
5. Shak
6. Mushi
7. Robiul
8. Pacer 1 chulbul (Rubel)
9. Pacer 2 chulbul (Sajidul)

We still have 2 item girls or Mofeez to fill up with -
You guys think who to take between 2 Mofeez batsman or one mofez+Gazi mia
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Old April 20, 2013, 02:00 PM
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Murphy's law na bujhe proyog kora thik na.

Ash chara oi bouncy pitch-e dara-be ke? Shakib/Mushy? hahah..

In test, you need 6 solid batsman and 4 bowlers based on condition. In this bouncy condition our top 6 batsman would be -

1. Tamim
2. Ash
3. Mominul
4. Nasir
5. Shak
6. Mushi

In this condition, there are some murgi batsman (sorry, ei batting rat jege dekhe matha thik nai):
1. Sahreer Mofiz
2. MUllah
3. Zahurul

In this condition only bowlers we have is Robiul, Take 2 other seamers and Shak to fill-up spin quota.

So, the players to take is -

1. Tamim
2. Ash
3. Mominul
4. Nasir
5. Shak
6. Mushi
7. Robiul
8. Pacer 1 chulbul (Rubel)
9. Pacer 2 chulbul (Sajidul)

We still have 2 item girls or Mofeez to fill up with -
You guys think who to take between 2 Mofeez batsman or one mofez+Gazi mia
pura masala team
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Old April 20, 2013, 02:31 PM
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SN --> Tamim
Riyad --> Mominul
Rubel --> Sajidul

No other changes.
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Old April 20, 2013, 02:38 PM
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SN --> Tamim
Riyad --> Mominul
Rubel --> Sajidul

No other changes.
I would go with the exact combo as well....
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Old April 20, 2013, 02:58 PM
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we are playing on the same field , so a similar pitch will be there. then why play only two seam bowler? we can drop gazi or enam and play extra seamer. since zim have very few lefty, we can drop gazi. shak will be full fit for bowling in next match. so no need of an extra spinner.
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Old April 20, 2013, 03:23 PM
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Since this is a post mortem, I apoligize to OP for going off topic and posting my changes to the XI. The result does not warrant a nice pretty article so I'll just jot my thoughts down brainstorm format.

Player Grades

Robiul - A+, Steyn or Philander could NOT have bowled better than what he did. He was on another level compared even to Jarvis.
Ashraful - C, only other player who looked anywhere near competant...ecstatic that he's been sensible for 4 innings on the trot now.
Jaharul - C, I like him as a temporary long term solution, not good enough at this level, yet miles better than Junaid, Imrul, SN so he stays.
Gazi - D+, underutilized and maybe the pitch didn't help him, not entirely worrisome
Nafees - D, no opinion
Nasir - D, way more is expected from him and he can be trusted to deliver
Rubel - D-, I think he should be a permanent Test drop, has never averaged under 70
Shakib - F, rare failure from Superman, no need to worry yet
Mushfiq - F, didn't do anything right, captaincy was as bad as his batting
Riyad - F-, the worst of a terrible bunch, his dismissals boggled the mind, should not play again

Other thoughts:

- captaincy was horrible
- Rubel and Riyad have played long enough, its time for them to join Shahadat in receiving the Ashraful perma-drop therapy.
- SN is still better than Kayes, but Junaid is probably better
- Mominul should be given an extended run now
- Sajidul, Nazmul, Mashrafee, and Taskin should all compete/rotate for the other seamer spots behind Robiul
- Robiul bowled almost 60 overs, what a work horse...pray for his longevity and continue improvement.
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Old April 20, 2013, 03:29 PM
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we are playing on the same field , so a similar pitch will be there. then why play only two seam bowler? we can drop gazi or enam and play extra seamer. since zim have very few lefty, we can drop gazi. shak will be full fit for bowling in next match. so no need of an extra spinner.
I don't think 2 Tests have ever been played back to back at the same ground or even in the same series.

The match will almost certainly be played on a different strip, meaning that strip was was probably worn out from batsman running on it and bowlers' follow throughs for 4 days. Can they fix that in 4 days before the next match?

I have a feeling we may see a unfit pitch due to these reasons. Lets see what happens.
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Old April 20, 2013, 04:07 PM
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Af, the comment about Robiul, ektu beshi hoye gelo na?
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Old April 20, 2013, 05:23 PM
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What did ash do?


Yeah - same here - what did Ash do?
All of a sudden out of no where this?
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Old April 20, 2013, 05:31 PM
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Yeh Ash was our highest run scorer this test match, and the only one out of the bunch that seems to be able to play in a bouncy pitch.
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I don't think 2 Tests have ever been played back to back at the same ground or even in the same series.

The match will almost certainly be played on a different strip, meaning that strip was was probably worn out from batsman running on it and bowlers' follow throughs for 4 days. Can they fix that in 4 days before the next match?

I have a feeling we may see a unfit pitch due to these reasons. Lets see what happens.
Exactly, the commentators were discussing this and they were trying to identity which pitch may be used next game. they concluded most of the pitches looks damaged, and even the best one will have more problems than this one, if not prepared well. SO THEY WERE ANTICIPATING ANOTHER EASY WIN FOR ZIMS
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I think even Firdose Moonda implied that Mahmudullah will be dropped for the next game. Mind boggles me how we were trailing by 390 and he decides to hit boundaries by smashing the ball over mid wicket. Stupidity
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Af, the comment about Robiul, ektu beshi hoye gelo na?
yeah, I would give him an A.
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