facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Miscellaneous > Forget Cricket

Forget Cricket Talk about anything [within Board Rules, of course :) ]

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #26  
Old June 25, 2013, 09:14 AM
King13 King13 is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: April 9, 2013
Posts: 1,403

Quote:
Originally Posted by Banglatiger84
Is this a joke?
The number of people killed in older days was far more than those killed now, in proportion to total population then and now. For all their evils, it is seen as somewhat wrong to massacre civilians these days, which is why stuff like Srebrenica and Rwanda is seen as so bad, but in "olden days", it was seen as something good by most "warriors".
Often war meant killing soldiers and as many civilians as you can and abusing as many women and children as you can...
I hope we keep to the topic- but I would like to express my opinion on this matter. olden day's and now is completely different. in olden day's it was all about war's and lands if you look at history, most country's can-not say that they were not involved in wars. its wrong to compare the olden day's and now. in the current time/generation, we have European law's, justice etc. which are clearly not followed by some oppressive countries, unlike the olden day's where ruler,commander and leader's had to write law's by themselves, it was the time of establishment of Land's and Law. it was a very tough and testing time for people.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old June 25, 2013, 09:23 AM
sum_1's Avatar
sum_1 sum_1 is offline
First Class Cricketer
 
Join Date: April 17, 2013
Location: City of Joy :)
Favorite Player: Men in Blue
Posts: 471

Sauron (or rather his eye). Almost conquered the whole of middle earth.
__________________
You can be the ripest, juiciest peach in the world, and there will always be someone who hates peaches.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old June 25, 2013, 09:42 AM
Neel Here's Avatar
Neel Here Neel Here is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: March 17, 2009
Favorite Player: Aravinda DeSilva, Lara
Posts: 2,765

king13, hannibal lost the support of the carthiginian senate (petty politics against his father hamilcar barca) which decided not to send him reinforcements. as a general he was as good as any, especially given the rag tag army he was leading, his results were nothing less than spectacular.
he is credited with inventing the tactic of 'double envelopment'.
his campaigns are still taught at military colleges around the world.

as for alexander, without doubt he was a great general but most of his adversaries were large but relatively untrained conscript armies. when he did face a resolute adversary in king porus, he was really pushed to the limits. (he actually lost according to some modern historians. for he ceded some province to the supposedly defeated king)
__________________
Anything can be sacrificed for truth,
nothing is too valuable to sacrifice truth instead.
-- Swami Vivekananda
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old June 25, 2013, 09:58 AM
King13 King13 is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: April 9, 2013
Posts: 1,403

Yes @ Neel Here, He was one of the greatest military field tactician, as reported from this website, that listed "Top 10 Military Field Tactician" and Hannibal was ranked 3rd:http://listverse.com/2011/01/06/top-...ld-tacticians/, I personally think he deserves more credit than Napoleon, but your points are very nice and valid, but surely you can't judge him to be the best or greatest warrior.

Ps: They have ranked Alexander and Napoleon as No.1 and No.2 respectively.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old June 25, 2013, 11:00 AM
zsayeed zsayeed is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 19, 2007
Posts: 4,906

Quote:
Originally Posted by King13
Tamarlane is historically found to be from the lineage of Genghis Khan, I think GK is the main person or founder of the mongol empire, I am not sure if they are muslim's or not, but as per Wikipedia it say's so. their seems to be negative views and positive views about Genghis Khan and The Mongol Empire. Yes, maybe Tamarlane did a lot in term's of the structure and educational system's improvement. I can not agree or say majority agree that his the greatest warrior ever. There are many warrior's who had created dynasty if you look at muslim's warrior, I am looking at overall like what historian say.
He was from the lineage - but he was not backed by them. He did it on his own. In fact he had to fight against the Khans. Read the book - you will be entertained - highly unputdownable. He destroyed so that he may build it again. The Moghuls are from Tamarlane's lineage. It is because of him what Samarkand became. Rumi escaped because of Genghis - Hafez stayed in his home town though - because of Tamarlane.

In the book - it says how he increased the chess board from 8X8 to 16X16 - he was a master strategist.
__________________
I Want to Believe

Last edited by zsayeed; June 25, 2013 at 11:45 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old June 25, 2013, 07:27 PM
BengaliPagol's Avatar
BengaliPagol BengaliPagol is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: February 4, 2012
Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW
Favorite Player: Luka Modric
Posts: 5,335

It was seen by many that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was a great Warrior Prophet.

Warrior doesn't necessarily have to be all about killing right? A brave soldier would be a better term.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old June 26, 2013, 08:15 AM
King13 King13 is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: April 9, 2013
Posts: 1,403

Quote:
Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
It was seen by many that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was a great Warrior Prophet.

Warrior doesn't necessarily have to be all about killing right? A brave soldier would be a better term.
I think the fundamental of being a Muslim is to believe that Muhammad (SAW) is the last prophet. Before that of course the oneness of Allah. let's not confuse our self's with prophet's and warrior's, no prophet was known as a warrior.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old June 26, 2013, 08:32 AM
Gladiators Gladiators is offline
First Class Cricketer
 
Join Date: February 9, 2013
Posts: 432

Quote:
Originally Posted by King13
He is a prophet not a warrior. he came to spread islam not conquer lands.
But he conquered lands nevertheless - he went to war, he expanded 'muslim' land. I'd say he was a warrior - maybe a reluctant warrior, but a warrior.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old June 26, 2013, 12:50 PM
al Furqaan's Avatar
al Furqaan al Furqaan is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: February 18, 2004
Location: New York City
Favorite Player: Mominul, Nasir, Taskin
Posts: 20,319

No mention of Asoka? How about the Sikh Guru who created the Khalsa?

How about Lucy Lawless as Xena, the warrior princess?
__________________
Bangladesh is a stronger team with Shakib al Hasan.
Bangladesh is a stronger team without Shakib al Hasan.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old June 26, 2013, 06:45 PM
BengaliPagol's Avatar
BengaliPagol BengaliPagol is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: February 4, 2012
Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW
Favorite Player: Luka Modric
Posts: 5,335

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiators
But he conquered lands nevertheless - he went to war, he expanded 'muslim' land. I'd say he was a warrior - maybe a reluctant warrior, but a warrior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_100

This was the reason why Michael H. Hart put Prophet Muhammad (SAW) #1 on his list.

Quote:
My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.
Also Reverend Bosworth Smith sums it up very nicely

Quote:
… he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar. Without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue, if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by a right Divine, it was Mohammed; for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old July 3, 2013, 05:27 AM
Roey Haque's Avatar
Roey Haque Roey Haque is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: March 26, 2012
Favorite Player: Shakib Al Hassan
Posts: 1,778

Tipu Sultan. Hands down. Not even close.

He fought alongside his soldiers. And iced a vastly superior British force, not 1,not 2, but 3 times! And would have iced them for the 4th time as well, if it wasn't for the turncoats.

Tipu was a baaaad dude.
__________________
His excellency, Shere Bangla, descendent of Tipu Sultan, the Uniter of the Two Bengals, the Wily Bengali, the prince of all things cool, I present you Roey Haque the 1st.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old July 3, 2013, 10:05 AM
Rifat's Avatar
Rifat Rifat is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: March 30, 2007
Location: Connecticut
Favorite Player: Hashim Amla
Posts: 10,528

Khalid Ibn Waleed(May Allah be pleased with him), he should be up there too....name me one battle he partook in in which his party lost?
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old July 3, 2013, 02:05 PM
NoName's Avatar
NoName NoName is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 9, 2011
Location: Sauga
Posts: 2,652

Miyamoto Musashi can also be considered one.
__________________
"Life is a dream from which we all must wake."
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket