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Old November 4, 2013, 02:27 AM
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Shamim does speak good idiomatic English. It's just that people who are not first language speakers or have been brought up on centuries old (colonial legacy) grammatical constructs and idioms tend to have an issue with him. My issue with him is more to do with his being the reigning maharaja of obviousistan and his often vacuous and content free drivel.
+1 to that! Gosh, he can go completely overboard often times
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Old November 4, 2013, 02:37 AM
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It's cringeworthy to listen to his commentary among non bangladeshis... I find it hard to believe that no one in BD has decent cricketing knowledge and can also speak English accurately and without stuttering every 5 seconds.. my word let's not even talk about his biased commentary and lack of cricketing insights and common sense . Rant over

Ur thread some kind of joke to me.... I guess u wanted to popular in bc putting this nonsence thread... Bhua bhua ... Atahar way better than lots of others mate.... Pls do some other work thor baba....
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Old November 4, 2013, 03:22 AM
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There is a reason why this brianlara7 is the least respected in this forum.

Athar is a substandard comm but he is the best we have got and lets appreciate it. Does any of you remember the comm during the t20 against Netherlands? Now that's whats called worst. Biased but his cricket knowledge exceeds that of many of us here. Atleast more than that of me.

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Old November 4, 2013, 03:28 AM
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i have a question..why you guys dont like shamim?, i might be wrong but his English is better then Athar IMHO though Shamim is the Mullah of Commentary
Yes shamim engliah is better but his knowledge about cricket is dreadful. Sometimes he doesn't even recognise our players including Shakib.
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Old November 4, 2013, 03:45 AM
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I like both Atahar and Shamim.
Thank God for them, at least we have two commies in the box who does a decent enough job.

If they weren't good enough, no broadcaster would have consistently employ them.
If there are Richie Benauds on the pipeline, where are they ?
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Old November 4, 2013, 03:50 AM
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agreed
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Old November 4, 2013, 04:27 AM
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I like both Atahar and Shamim.
Thank God for them, at least we have two commies in the box who does a decent enough job.

If they weren't good enough, no broadcaster would have consistently employ them.
If there are Richie Benauds on the pipeline, where are they ?


I don't even know why we have thread like this.
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Old November 4, 2013, 05:15 AM
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Athar Ali is a decent commie....his English is ok and so is his accent. I dont know if you have seen him upfront, but he is also a well dressed person as well. I think personall the OP is being quite harsh on him.

He is biased to some extent, then again you will find all commies are when their national team is playing.

He has represented Bangladesh in international cricket so he doesnt lack cricketing insight. You got it totally wrong on this point.

Even Shamim's English is OK and so is his accent, however what is cringe worthy an embaressing about him is his slap stick jokes.
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Old November 4, 2013, 05:33 AM
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How could anyone not like Athar's commentary? 'TAKE THAT AUSTRALIA!'I am a fan for life.
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Old November 4, 2013, 05:40 AM
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I am happy with our commentators! but I find Athar to be too emotional.
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Old November 4, 2013, 06:10 AM
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I can't imagine bd games without Atha's passion and bias towards BD
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Old November 4, 2013, 06:17 AM
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Off topic. In 2011 when Pakistan toured bang

Rameez was in a bus and the driver was not the best in the business and he tweeted: "The bus driver did not know where his off stump was, just like Bangladeshi batsman"

That was quite an insult coming from one of the best batsman of his era. One should check his batting stats for reference.

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Old November 4, 2013, 06:24 AM
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Don't know why some of us botheted by Athahar! I frankly like his commentry, he sometime seems get bit emotional or sounds so much attached with team performnace but that is very fine to me. He was a player of class himself and very dignified individual.. Thoguh i don't know him personlly, but his act and persona just hints how a well mind person he is.
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Old November 4, 2013, 06:24 AM
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I think this type of threads should be discouraged if we want to have luminaries like him to grace the forum. Just from the perspective of diplomatic liaison. *not to confuse with elision of French grammar. imo
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Old November 4, 2013, 06:28 AM
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i think atahar is not bad commentator but his english is annoying, specially tar proti word er por ekta gear marar ovvash ase, kane betha kore. english take banglar moto sona jay
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Old November 4, 2013, 06:37 AM
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Atahar is a decent enough commentator, but he needs to control his emotions or his excitement sometimes, and his voice tone which goes up & down , his totlami , the use of dots.......are annoying,
Shamim on the other hand has a soothing voice , but Shamim is a super sissy, in either 1st or 2nd ODI during the last five overs we were batiing he said smething like "hit it if it is in your zone "
And Ata needs to stop saying Wise-captain , makes the other captain unwise.

Apart from that he is fine.

BTW, is Shamim the only commie who is not an ex-cricketer ? explains the sissyness.
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Old November 4, 2013, 06:42 AM
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If anything I'm actually embarrassed by the fact that this thread is still hovering at the top and this post of mine doesn't help the cause either. Atahar is from an era when English wasn't as widespread as it is today. In those days hardly any cricketer went to English medium schools. So I never really expected him to be very fluent in English. The next generation of cricketers turned commentators like Tamim, Mushfiq et al. will obviously speak much better when their turn comes. That said, despite Atahar's shortcomings you can always feel the enthusiasm and unbridled passion for BD cricket when he commentates.
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Old November 4, 2013, 06:48 AM
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Hes much much better than Shamim who seems really bias. I remember Shamim continually putting Danny Morrison down in the 3rd ODI v NZ, when Danny started talking about the kiwis and how if one wicket fell then multiple could fall, which is a fair statement.
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Old November 4, 2013, 06:50 AM
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BTW, is Shamim the only commie who is not an ex-cricketer ? explains the sissyness.
Nope. There are few at the moment

Tony Cozier
Harsha Bhogle
Simon Mann (BBC)
Neil Manthorp (Super sports)
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Old November 4, 2013, 07:34 AM
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If anything I'm actually embarrassed by the fact that this thread is still hovering at the top and this post of mine doesn't help the cause either. Atahar is from an era when English wasn't as widespread as it is today. In those days hardly any cricketer went to English medium schools. So I never really expected him to be very fluent in English. The next generation of cricketers turned commentators like Tamim, Mushfiq et al. will obviously speak much better when their turn comes. That said, despite Atahar's shortcomings you can always feel the enthusiasm and unbridled passion for BD cricket when he commentates.
But Athar attended Dhaka University at a time when teaching standards were much higher than they are today and many of his contemporaries at DU's Public Administration department speak excellent English.
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Old November 4, 2013, 07:37 AM
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Did someone say mushy may become a comm?

Yea definitely

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Old November 4, 2013, 07:40 AM
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Athar is from an era where cricketers came from the upper middle class and went to schools, even if they weren't English mediums, where English instruction was superior to the lay schools. For example the Shirazis went to my school.

There is nothing wrong with Athar's English. Yes, he does have a minor speech impediment.
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Old November 4, 2013, 07:49 AM
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Your TV don't have a mute button? I use it a lot. Mostly my kids are asleep during game time.
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Old November 4, 2013, 09:46 AM
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Like it or not Atahar and Shamim are the only 2 "shonar dim" we have. I would rather have them do the commentary than have no BD commentators at all. And they do much better job than some Zim commentators.

We need to Appreciate what we have
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Old November 4, 2013, 09:59 AM
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Athar is certainly not the worst commentator but i prefer Shamim over him .
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