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Old April 15, 2004, 12:18 PM
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Default BD one-day squad for WI announced: unofficial

Bangladesher Khela has reported that Abdur Rajjak Raj and Foisal Dickens will be in the one-day squad of Bangladesh for the upcoming tour of West Indies.

The 2 players are left out that toured the last Zimbabwe series, they are Al Shahriar Rokon and Monjurul Islam the left arm pacer.
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Old April 15, 2004, 12:30 PM
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Looks like the best possible team. Feel kind of bad for Al-Shahriyar, but can't blame the selectors.
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Old April 15, 2004, 12:32 PM
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I don't know what you guys think, but I think I'm gonna miss Monju, particularly on the conditions of the West Indies.

And, what the heck are selectors doing? Why are they including a 3rd left arm spinner in the side replacing a left arm paceman? Especially, where wickets are not known to be so much turning like in the sub-continent.
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Old April 15, 2004, 12:48 PM
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Default forget about Al-Shahriyar!

He is a fluke. He has given plenty of opportunity in the past, but he hardly shows any consistency with the bat in any top level BD matches. In the minor league, he usually shines, but when it is time for the big game, he always choked out.
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Old April 15, 2004, 12:55 PM
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Agreed. Rokon is completely irresponsible and a total failure at the highest level.
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Old April 15, 2004, 12:58 PM
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good team. left arm spinners are our strong suit, so they are going with that. I have no problem with that. I agree though that we are lacking a bit in the pace dept. we could have included a third seamer instead of shujon.
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Old April 15, 2004, 01:08 PM
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as predicted

no surprises!
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Old April 15, 2004, 01:09 PM
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Tareq Ajij looked potential
(i liked the way he swang the ball but his bowling line was horrible!)
may do a good job in WI
wil he be in the team?
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Old April 15, 2004, 01:34 PM
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I don't know what you guys think, but I think I'm gonna miss Monju, particularly on the conditions of the West Indies.

And, what the heck are selectors doing? Why are they including a 3rd left arm spinner in the side replacing a left arm paceman? Especially, where wickets are not known to be so much turning like in the sub-continent.
WI players are master of playing fast bowlers as they have plenty. monju is a "dudh vaat" for them. our only hope is to attack them using ghurney. oder matha ghuray jabay ato spinner er thalai! if it does not work, i'll go and dump some water on the pitch on the game morning, and then everything will be good.
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Old April 15, 2004, 01:53 PM
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I don't know what you guys think, but I think I'm gonna miss Monju, particularly on the conditions of the West Indies.

And, what the heck are selectors doing? Why are they including a 3rd left arm spinner in the side replacing a left arm paceman? Especially, where wickets are not known to be so much turning like in the sub-continent.
fw has a very valid point here. However, looking at the just finished test series between WI & England, we see that the Englist quickies got good result out of WI conditions, where Lara's fast bowlers did not. I've read that this may be due to the height of the English ones. They were able to pitch hard from a height and got bounce and swing from the pitch. The WI fast bowlers such as Tino or Fidel have been called the "pint sized" ones because of their diminutive physique. They had pace, but they got result when they were able to slide the ball on the hard turf on rare occassions.

Keeping the above in mind, we can't expect Manjural to be effective. Tall paceres like Masri, or even Shahadat can expect better result here. So, I would like to see Shahadat instead of Raj in the ODIs. After all, they are both new. If we are brave enough to try one, why not the one with some logistical advantages?

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by billah]
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Old April 15, 2004, 01:58 PM
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Shahadat needs some more time...he didn't do so good against Zim A
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Old April 15, 2004, 02:01 PM
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Default Shamvabbo Team

Bangladesher khela says its unofficial. but they said that hannan and shahrier will open. in that case how would the team look?

01) Shahrier Hossain/Manjarul Rana
02) Hannan Sarkar
03) Habibul Bashar
04) Alok Kapali
05) Rajin Saleh
06) Mohammad Asharaful
07) Mushfiq Babu/Faisal Hossain/Khaled Mahmud
08) Khaled Masud
09) Mohammad Rafique
10) Tareq Aziz/Rajjak Raj
11) Taposh Baysha

This is i think the positionwise competition among the 15 players team.

1) Since we have too much player in middle order and its quite sure this time that alok will play, we can only have rana or shahrier. Rana stays ahead. or rana shahrier plays, hannan watches.

3) to 6) fixed.
7) Biggest chance that chacha stays leaving mushfiq and faisal. but in that case tareq is a must, as a opener bowler. i can't think mushfiq staying out, but don't know how he'll play.
8-9-11) fixed.
10) tareq or faisal, mainly depending on the pitch or whether mushfiq plays or not. if tarez does not play, mushfiq has to open.

this whole calculation will be much easier if i could keep sujon out, but i can't.

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by Tokai : le]
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Old April 15, 2004, 02:06 PM
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Masrafee ke khub dorkar chilo WI-e
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Old April 15, 2004, 02:13 PM
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Shahadat needs some more time...he didn't do so good against Zim A
i don't think he played against ZIM A
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Old April 15, 2004, 02:21 PM
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it will be much easier if shujon is left out. I can't see how one can drop mushfiq. have you seen his bowling record in the middle of the innings? he concedes runs around thirties and always lick up a wkt or two. indispenseble in my mind. with bat he is better than shujon anyday..
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Old April 15, 2004, 02:24 PM
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Shahadat needs some more time...he didn't do so good against Zim A
i don't think he played against ZIM A

Oh...yes...but I remember somebody on this board saying that he didn't do very well...so...
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Old April 15, 2004, 02:25 PM
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Tokai, good team! But I will put mushfique in place of Alok. Faisal will fight with Mahmud. Alok will only come in if one of the batsmen fail in the first two one-dayers!

And those rooting for pacers......I guess even Mashrafee is slower than Flintoff (the slowest of English quatret; Jones, Harmison, Hoggard is certainly faster than Mashraffe). So the success of English bowlers mean little for our pacers.

The one thing that bothers me is the fact that most of the WI top order batsmen are lefties. Slow left arm bowlers will have less of an advantage against them.

[Edited on 15-4-2004 by Optimist]
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Old April 15, 2004, 02:26 PM
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I'd prefer Mushfique over the other two for number 7....
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Old April 15, 2004, 02:30 PM
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Default we have to try Alok first!

I think Alok has been part of every ODI since his debut against Sri Lanka. He had a good performance against West Indies in our home series. He is familiar with West Indian pacers pretty well. So my point is we ought to try him first rather than put inexperience new comer. If he fails than he could be replace anytime.

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Old April 15, 2004, 02:44 PM
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Shahdat played against Zimbabwe A in the 4 day match. Here is the score card

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Alamgir kabir bowled better than him. I can't remember whether he played in any of the one-dayers though!
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optimist
your assesement of our pacers are correct. We need not feel quotas with pacers, for the sake of it ,because WI pitches are conducive to pace bowling. You need the goods for that and we clearly don't have it. Spinners are our wkt taking bowlers and strong suit. The west Indies of eighties packed four fast bowlers in their squad even while touring places like India because they were their strong suit. About your comment about their top order being lefty heavy, I agree thats a bit of a disadvantage for us. Since, we don't have any quality offspiners, I am afraid we have no other option.
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Old April 15, 2004, 03:33 PM
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Shahadat needs some more time...he didn't do so good against Zim A
On a slow, dusty, subcontinental type pitch, that is.
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Shahadat played 4 day match and atleast 2 one dayers where he had little or no impact. He didn't take any wicket nor was he economical. I think we really need to groom him well ( he's certainly not ready at this stage) for future , specially keeping WC2007 in mind. Like i said in my recent posts before he is THE one who'll compliment Masrafee best. He can be a bowler of Steve Harmison's mould - tall young fast bowler extracting bounce to cause havoc.

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Old April 15, 2004, 06:46 PM
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There you go billah and rassel...
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Default who are dropped

Is anybody tracking from the Zimbabwe touring squad, who are losing places in the squad to Abdul Rajjak Raj and Faisal Dickence? I appreciate your reply.
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