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Old March 4, 2014, 11:16 AM
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This attack would have easily defended this total. Kick him out for life. But my question is wtf is Zias role? No over or batting.

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Old March 4, 2014, 11:18 AM
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Al Amin actually bowled really well I thought.
probably best death bowling from us..

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Old March 4, 2014, 11:23 AM
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T-20 WC squad e ki asey? please tell me no.
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:28 AM
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Do you think replacing Razzak with another spinner, and then asking him to bowl massive hitters like Afridi at the death will bring us better results? I highly doubt that. Only Ajmal and Narine can consistently bowl at the death without getting smashed all around the park.
Umm In case you haven't noticed, Razzak didn't have to bowl at Afridi even once. And he still gave away 72 from 9 overs. Case closed.
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:28 AM
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What's wrong with him? Why doesn't he feel excited? He looks so depressed and lost jeno bou palaiya gese.

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Old March 4, 2014, 11:32 AM
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Signed. Good bye Lalla, Ijjoth takte pala!!!
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:34 AM
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Razzak is no unsung hero, he is the VILLAIN.
for todays match?, yeah no doubt..but you can not deny his contributions..for example go and look at the scorecards of 07 wc win vs IND and SA

Having said that the past is past..he is past his prime and needs to go. Period
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:34 AM
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What's wrong with him? Why doesn't he feel excited? He looks so depressed and lost jeno bou palaiya gese.
You said it like you have experienced it.
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:36 AM
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He just doesn't seem to be motivated for some reason. I kind of wonder if he has been like this after his mother passed away some year ago.

I know its unfortunate but you need to look at the future. Think about the Afghanistan. They have had so many thing snatched away from them but they still give a huge amount of effort.
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:38 AM
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You said it like you have experienced it.
Mufir ager Gf afridi er sathe palay gese
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:39 AM
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Why should he (retire)?

If the captain picking him in the team, he have every right milking that opportunity.

The selectors should stop selecting him in the team so the captain cannot select him in the playing 11 anymore.
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:41 AM
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for todays match?, yeah no doubt..but you can not deny his contributions..for example go and look at the scorecards of 07 wc win vs IND and SA

Having said that the past is past..he is past his prime and needs to go. Period
Well yes. He was useful once upon a time. But for a while now, he has been absolutely worthless. Villain is a strong word but it's hard for me to swallow as a fan when our team loses a crucial match after scoring 326 because of our most experienced bowler deciding to bowl like a novice. And he did it against Afghanistan as well.
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:43 AM
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I fully agree the time has come for Abdur Razzak to retire from international cricket. He has become much more clumsier in his bowling and fielding than before. Arafat Sunny is the natural replacement for Lalla. He is atheletic and extremely good with his line and length and will have great econ rate. Very rarely he bowls those pressure releasing boundary balls every over.

Thanks for your service, Lalla. But, the time has come to do the honourable thing.
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:45 AM
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You said it like you have experienced it.
lol maybe. but i guess razzak can't 'perform' anywhere. inject some steroids or viagra, or have him drink lots of energy juice crap. otherwise this guy is done. no future in bd team and also no future in general. rag lage dekhle ei buira tare. man he is only 31!! togbog korbe jouboner jalay ar na kemon menda menda bhab.
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:46 AM
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Why are you people not questioning why Mushy bowled two spinners in the death overs against power-hitters? We could have bowled three tight overs of pace with Al-Amin and (cough, cough) Shafiul. Or Zia. Rajjak was disappearing for 7-8 an over well before the slog overs, so why was he bowled at the death?
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:55 AM
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Razzak, He is an idiot
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:56 AM
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I can see why captain is picking him since he is in T20, mushi wants him to get back his form. So please don't blame mushi for every thing. Its the selector who decided to ignore the signs and pick him over a better bowler like sunny. As soon as i heard he was picked i tweeted to MO isam about him and he replied Razzak has more experienced and he agrees. Since then after every match i am reminding him about that. this was a big blunder by Faruk and he did not consult the captain who i think would have not selected him
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Old March 4, 2014, 12:01 PM
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Thanks for the memories. Quit whining about how you're forced to play despite your heart not being in it, and just Q-U-I-T already.
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He has to retire ASAP. When an experienced players folds under pressure like that and gives runs away so easily then whats the harm in not playing someone like Arafat Sunny at most he would learn from the situation but this chaagol just does the same crap again and again!!!
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Default Razzak, you have arrived at that point ...

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Why should he (retire)? If the captain picking him in the team, he have every right milking that opportunity.The selectors should stop selecting him in the team so the captain cannot select him in the playing 11 anymore.
Typical deshi thinking.

Graeme Smith would have been kept captain by the Saffer selectors. He felt he was not meeting his high standards any more and retired. Gilchrist dropped a few catches, felt he was not as nimble as he needed to be and retired. Andrew Strauss - retired voluntarily. That your captain or selector keeps selecting you does NOT absolve one of his responsibility to his country and more important to his self!

That is one of the reason so many people lost respect for Sachin Tendulkar. That he couldn't make the decision that the selectors were clearly too chicken to make. Razzak can set a better example.

Razzak has been a great servant for BD cricket. I read some of the disrespectful statements above with dismay - yes he bowled poorly today, as he has all through the tournament. But that does not negate the great job he has done over the years. His ODI economy and wicket rate are outstanding by BD standards and pretty decent by international norms. His T20 economy is world-class.

Still, his time has come. The hammie injury in the Chittagong test should have been a clue. He is clearly older than the official age of 31 and it's beginning to show. Never the best of fielders, he is positively geriatric on the green these days. His hit and miss batting surely reached it's zenith in that slogathon he unleashed against Zim in the last tour. Most important, his bowling has lost the zip and skid that made him so effective. He is now the purveyor of slow-medium lollipops that even the likes of Fawad Alam can dispatch.

So to Abdur Razzak I urge, retire. Go with the dignity you deserve and don't let the selectors force the issue. If he retires today, the selectors can name a replacement for him in the T20 tournament.

To Arafat Sunny, Taijul, Shohrowardy, Roubel and others - time for you to step up and replace a legendary player.
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Having met the guy a few times, I can say that he's a genuinely nice person - which is probably not a good thing if you're in your country's national cricket team!

Like many of our players, he is very soft natured and very shy.

But as many people have already stated, we can't deny his contributions to the team over the last few years.
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Old March 4, 2014, 12:10 PM
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T-20 WC squad e ki asey? please tell me no.
Yes he is in the T-20 squad. and as we named the players we can't make change in the squad unless there is an injury..

But we have only one sla except shakib and mominul.. i.e we dont have any other specialist sla except razzak and it is quite evident that he will be playing in all the matches.

So how to get rid of him- for the sake of Bangladesh..
-> Gazi is probably injured we should pick A. sunny in replace of him
-> however razzak can also come out of the squad showing dummy excuses for the sake of his country. I think he is at least that smart to understand what he has done for his country recently.
-> or best he should at least retire from the T20 squad
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Typical deshi thinking.

Graeme Smith would have been kept captain by the Saffer selectors. He felt he was not meeting his high standards any more and retired. Gilchrist dropped a few catches, felt he was not as nimble as he needed to be and retired. Andrew Strauss - retired voluntarily. That your captain or selector keeps selecting you does NOT absolve one of his responsibility to his country and more important to his self!

That is one of the reason so many people lost respect for Sachin Tendulkar. That he couldn't make the decision that the selectors were clearly too chicken to make. Razzak can set a better example.

Razzak has been a great servant for BD cricket. I read some of the disrespectful statements above with dismay - yes he bowled poorly today, as he has all through the tournament. But that does not negate the great job he has done over the years. His ODI economy and wicket rate are outstanding by BD standards and pretty decent by international norms. His T20 economy is world-class.

Still, his time has come. The hammie injury in the Chittagong test should have been a clue. He is clearly older than the official age of 31 and it's beginning to show. Never the best of fielders, he is positively geriatric on the green these days. His hit and miss batting surely reached it's zenith in that slogathon he unleashed against Zim in the last tour. Most important, his bowling has lost the zip and skid that made him so effective. He is now the purveyor of slow-medium lollipops that even the likes of Fawad Alam can dispatch.

So to Abdur Razzak I urge, retire. Go with the dignity you deserve and don't let the selectors force the issue. If he retires today, the selectors can name a replacement for him in the T20 tournament.

To Arafat Sunny, Taijul, Shohrowardy, Roubel and others - time for you to step up and replace a legendary player.
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Old March 4, 2014, 12:21 PM
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After all this we could still won the match if Razzaq did not ball that over. I clearly don't see the reason behind the decision bringing Razzaq that last over. After all the writing last couple of days he should have not been picked for today's game and in no circumstance he should have ball that final over. He is clearly not the bowler he was as he lost the confidence in last few matches. I am absolutely shocked that we keep finding ways to loss the game when have it. I am disgusted after today. What a way to loss the match.
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Typical deshi thinking.

Graeme Smith would have been kept captain by the Saffer selectors. He felt he was not meeting his high standards any more and retired. Gilchrist dropped a few catches, felt he was not as nimble as he needed to be and retired. Andrew Strauss - retired voluntarily. That your captain or selector keeps selecting you does NOT absolve one of his responsibility to his country and more important to his self!

That is one of the reason so many people lost respect for Sachin Tendulkar. That he couldn't make the decision that the selectors were clearly too chicken to make. Razzak can set a better example.

Razzak has been a great servant for BD cricket. I read some of the disrespectful statements above with dismay - yes he bowled poorly today, as he has all through the tournament. But that does not negate the great job he has done over the years. His ODI economy and wicket rate are outstanding by BD standards and pretty decent by international norms. His T20 economy is world-class.

Still, his time has come. The hammie injury in the Chittagong test should have been a clue. He is clearly older than the official age of 31 and it's beginning to show. Never the best of fielders, he is positively geriatric on the green these days. His hit and miss batting surely reached it's zenith in that slogathon he unleashed against Zim in the last tour. Most important, his bowling has lost the zip and skid that made him so effective. He is now the purveyor of slow-medium lollipops that even the likes of Fawad Alam can dispatch.

So to Abdur Razzak I urge, retire. Go with the dignity you deserve and don't let the selectors force the issue. If he retires today, the selectors can name a replacement for him in the T20 tournament.

To Arafat Sunny, Taijul, Shohrowardy, Roubel and others - time for you to step up and replace a legendary player.
Actually you are wrong. Its not deshi thinking, its american way of thinking.

Just see how the professional superstars end up their career here in USA. NFL, NBA, MLB. the superstars when their days are over, will not quit as long as teams give them opportunity to play. And they retire only when they get the signal that the team will not retain them and no other team will give them another contract. There are exceptions, but they are few.

This is a player's profession, its their livelihood, why should he retire if he see that he can squeeze more money at the end of his career? And why should I blame him for that?

On the other hand the management has the job to make the hard choice, they have to make a choice that will benefit the team and that's what they are supposed to make.


And oh please don't compare Razzak with Smith or Tendulkar. They have already earned enough fame, money and public influence. Razzak was good to us, but he is nowhere near close to them and I am not sure he is as financially solvent as Sakib or Tamim or Mushfiq. So why should I expect that he would voluntarily retire?

Actually your way of sentimental thinking is more in line with Deshi thinking.
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