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Old August 23, 2014, 03:53 AM
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Default Taijul Islam and Shuvagata Hom set for Test call-ups

Taijul, Hom, Robiul and Shafiul will be replacing Mash, Taskin, Mithun and Razzak for the test series.

Taijul will also be available for the T20 INT. I want Hom to replace Nasir and Riyad in test too. can't do any worse.


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As Faruque suggested, Shuvagata could find himself in the middle-order and expected to bowl a fair share of the overs. But it is more likely that Taijul, if he remains fit, will make his Test debut in the Caribbean
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Old August 23, 2014, 05:35 AM
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Some very queer decisions by selectors. Shafiul Islam hasnt done much to earn a call up has he? Hom also selected more as all rounder than batsman, although its the batting we are having trouble with.

Finally Taijul Islam could be a harmful move. True the guy has impressed. But this was his first successful season. He wasnt great with Bangladesh A either. I guess sheer desperation.
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Old August 23, 2014, 07:53 AM
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shafiul is an interesting decision, he hasn't done much recently or in tests so far but at the same time we don't really have any decent fast bowlers anyway.

taijul, i'm more than happy trying out other spinners considering how razzak and gazi are performing atm.

shuvagata, interesting that they are looking at him as an all rounder but i hope they'll also consider playing him as a batsman if they don't think he should play an all rounder role.
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Old August 23, 2014, 09:12 AM
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and then one of these two will have a brilliant d├ębut and after a few matches will become BD standard.
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taskin should stay in west indies for the test series
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Some very queer decisions by selectors. Shafiul Islam hasnt done much to earn a call up has he? Hom also selected more as all rounder than batsman, although its the batting we are having trouble with.

Finally Taijul Islam could be a harmful move. True the guy has impressed. But this was his first successful season. He wasnt great with Bangladesh A either. I guess sheer desperation.
Taijul had 9 wickets in the 2 first class matches. Not terrible. Deserved call up. Anyone but Razzak. Shafiul is still better than Shahadat. Hom I guess somewhat earned his call in light of his decent Intl performance a few years back.
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Old August 23, 2014, 03:42 PM
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Apart from Robiul, the selectors have got it all wrong
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Picking Hom ahead of Marshal and Naeem for tests? Question mark
Picking Taijul to debut in away conditions? Question mark

not terrible decisions though... so meh
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Old August 23, 2014, 06:46 PM
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Picking Hom ahead of Marshal and Naeem for tests? Question mark
Picking Taijul to debut in away conditions? Question mark

not terrible decisions though... so meh
aside from marshall's one brilliant domestic season hom has been more consistent in FC domestic cricket, i'm talking on a season to season basis as well not just overall. shuvagata gets centuries and half centuries more consistently than marshall does. now as far as naeem there is more of a point but at the same time the view could be that he's been tried and tested and doesn't offer what is wanted or needed for the team...even people on here say he is a limited talent.

picking taijul in away conditions, yeah that's a bit risky but look at the options, they're all horrible anyway and if you're positive you'll see this as a youngster playing in away conditions against one of the weaker test sides so he has a lot of opportunity to learn in tougher conditions and against good quality opposition but not quite top flight opponents.
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Old August 23, 2014, 09:21 PM
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Regarding Tajiul, this is how we often mess players up. Dropping them in the middle of the ocean, when they are merely learning to swim in a pond. True we dont have alternatives, but this is where one must take difficult decisions. Only a good first class season and a mere A Team tour should never be enough.
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Old August 23, 2014, 09:26 PM
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I will wait till another thead stating Tajiul and Hom excluded from the next test series...stop this nonsense BCB and selectors fix the real problem!!
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Old August 23, 2014, 11:27 PM
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Regarding Tajiul, this is how we often mess players up. Dropping them in the middle of the ocean, when they are merely learning to swim in a pond. True we dont have alternatives, but this is where one must take difficult decisions. Only a good first class season and a mere A Team tour should never be enough.
he was pretty good in that A team tour though and it was in WI. that along with his incredible domestic run is probably what got him selected, he at least has some experience in WI and good memories from it so he should go into the series on with a positive attitude and that makes a big difference in sport.

i agree the selectors don't always go about selections properly, actually they do it quite poorly most of the time and then they realise what they should have done and implement it at a more difficult time. razzak and gazi have been bad for awhile, selectors should have got taijul into the team earlier but they didn't, still doesn't change that he's our best option atm.

the other thing is A team tours for BD are so few and far between players don't get the opportunity to get enough A team experience before being needed for the national team. again it comes down to structure, the domestic and A team structure is poor and it affects the national team.
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Old August 23, 2014, 11:39 PM
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Our selectors are like kids who love to take their new toys out of the packing. While there is no doubt we dont have much choice, we could have opted for Enamul Jnr (Who was the third higest wicket taker; and has been doing it season after season) and shielded Taijul for a couple more seasons. They have all the tolerance in the world for guys like Razzak, but Enamul has one bad game, and shove him out for 2-3 years.

Thing about pushing youngsters out so early is, international cricket hits em like a brick wall. Once confidence is dented, they have a hard time recovering. Also it gives younger players an illusion its very easy to get into the team and stay there.

But i sincerely hope Taijul takes a different path from Gazi, the Sunny's etc.
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it's also that the domestic system isn't strong enough to develop them to a high enough standard. the problem is even if a kid has the talent to make it at the international level, they may not do it straight away and may need to go back to domestic cricket, but if they domestic cricket is a horrible standard then it's not going to develop them very much and that makes it tough for them to get better and get back into the team and be successful long term.

you have a point though, look at gazi, he had a couple of seasons, got into the team and started great but has now been struggling a lot for quite a few months now.
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Old August 23, 2014, 11:50 PM
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Not just Gazi, note the performance of Elias Sunny in domestic cricket. Slowly going off the grid! They come to international cricket, get spoiled, stop working hard. Some get such a reality check, they lose all their confidence.
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Not just Gazi, note the performance of Elias Sunny in domestic cricket. Slowly going off the grid! They come to international cricket, get spoiled, stop working hard. Some get such a reality check, they lose all their confidence.
which again is part of cricket culture. mathew hayden and damien martyn made the aussie team at a young age, both were dropped and both came back to be tremendous players, culture and domestic quality, players need to work hard but also need to be playing in competitive competitions.
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7 first class matches a year is never going to be enough. And also the standard of the competition, nature of wickets dont make these 7 games count either.

Home and away is must, which exposes players to different playing surfaces. That would also mean 14 games a year, not 7.

I think BCB wants to convert first class into franchise format, but doesnt have the corporate/sponsor support. This is essential. There will be more money, more motivation. And we need to have at least 2-3 foreign players per first class team will expose the cricketers to the quality they dont get to face in domestic cricket.
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The Hom that I've seen play is more of an ODI player. He likes to settle-in by rotating the strike right away, and then punctuates his busy play with fairly high percentage shots. He has stated on many occasions that ODIs more than any other format, is what he feels to be his game.

He becomes antsy when unable to rotate the strike, and begins to hurry his shots trying to break free. Most of those are low percentage shots that get him out. Test batting favors the bowlers because there are no fielding restrictions. A bowler can bowl at a field set for him all day. Batting is a lot harder when that happens, and it's a lot easier to bog a batsman down. So I'm not sure how well he'll do in tests.

Having said that, he's both athletic and smart, and it's possible that he can elevate his game to overcome the weakness I'm talking about. I know that being unfairly dropped from the ODI squad shattered his confidence and caused a major loss of form for a while. Then he managed to pick himself back up, work very hard, and regained a lot of the form which got him into the National Team in the first place. He has been given another chance, albeit not in his favorite format, and he better be hungry to make this one count.
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every team bloods youngsters in foreign conditions at some point though, sanju samson is in india's one-day squad in england, he hasn't played much domestic cricket (bar t20 stuff) or A team cricket but they've got him in the squad to play in some of the toughest conditions, in a place where all of their best talents just failed in a 5 match test match series.
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PS: I don't think either Nayeem or Ayub can survive decent wickets outside Bangladesh.
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PS: I don't think either Nayeem or Ayub can survive decent wickets outside Bangladesh.
I don't think they can either.
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So can we take total of 10 wickets? Five in each game?
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Send Gazi home too, he needs to sort out his bowling action, among other things.
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