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View Poll Results: How many specialist spinners/pacers should be in the bowling department for Bangladesh in ODIs?
1 spinner & 3 pacers 14 60.87%
0 spinners & 4 pacers 1 4.35%
1 spinner & 2 pacers 3 13.04%
0 spinners & 3 pacers 1 4.35%
2 spinners & 2 pacers 4 17.39%
Other (please specify) 0 0%
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Old March 26, 2015, 05:28 PM
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Default 2015 ODI BanglaCricket XI - Specialist Bowling Department

How many specialist spinners/pacers should be in the Bangladesh Cricket Team for ODIs?

This poll is to make sure people agree upon the number of specialists bowlers that are in the team since people may either prefer batsmen all the way down to no. 8 or prefer 4 specialist bowlers.

Specialist spinners/pacers are in the team primarily for bowling (e.g. Mashrafe, Rubel, Taskin, Arafat, Taijul etc.). NOT players such as Shakib, Mahmudullah, Nasir Hossain etc who are allrounders that bowl but are primarily established batsmen.

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Old March 26, 2015, 05:35 PM
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NOTE: if you vote for either 1 spinner & 2 pacers or 0 spinners and 3 pacers you are also ultimately voting for 8 batsmen in the team.
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Old March 26, 2015, 09:23 PM
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it depends on where they play.

if its in BD--2 pacer plus 2 spinners

if its in england.NZ/AUS/SAF-- 3pacer and 1 spinner
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Old March 26, 2015, 09:29 PM
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Well I'd say the general team structure would be 3 pacers with one spinner because shakib isn't being classified as a specialist spinner here but we all know his quality. Do we really need two specialist spinners plus shakib plus riyad? I'd say that wouldn't happen very often and really with these definitions, in some matches we may not pick any specialist spinner...sometimes shakib and riyad will be enough.
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Old March 26, 2015, 09:55 PM
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depends on the condition
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Old March 26, 2015, 10:52 PM
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Depends on the conditions, and also the rules. There is a possibility the 2 new ball and 4 fielder rule will be scrapped.

Provided the ruling is changed, and suppose we play in subcontinental conditions then 2 pacers and 2 specialist spinners (This includes Shakib) is the way to go. We need to utilize more of Soumya Sarkar so that he can fulfill the role of a third seamer if required.
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Either pick Jubair as special spinner or no spinner at all. Nasir,Riyad both are very much capable of providing some good over if needed.
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I want to see Jubair.
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Old March 27, 2015, 01:16 AM
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Either pick Jubair as special spinner or no spinner at all. Nasir,Riyad both are very much capable of providing some good over if needed.
Dont discount Gazi, Taijul yet.
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It depends on the conditions like other people already mentioned but the ideal combination would be 1 specialist spinner and 3 pacers. It is not necessary to have 8 batsman all the time. Like Gazi because he is a specialist spinner but he can also bat. If not him then if we can get any other specialist spinner in some sort of form with the bat then we should be in a good position.
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Dont discount Gazi, Taijul yet.
Taijul never struck me as ODI bowler. I don't think we will see him in ODI squad anytime soon becaue sunny,jubair both are ahead of him in the pecking order plus haturi was really pissed at him after his performance against Nz. Gazi? Let him perform in the domestic league for a season first. Dude was already struggling big time even before the ban.
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The criteria should be 3 pacers and one spinner as shakib will already make the team as middle order bat. So

Taskin
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Mash ( i dont know if hes fit physically)

Jubai (spinner)
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3P/1S or 2P/2S depending on opposition/pitch. Wouldn't even mind 3P/2S but that would just result in a REALLY long tail
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You cant make a team based on votes for different conditions. The best team should be there to play on any conditions. That is why I am saying criteria should be 3 pacers and 1 spinner since Shakib will get the gig as middle order batsman. Also Mullah will be there so- 3 pacers and 1 specialist spinner. 2 pacers along with 2 spinners will really make the team vulnerable outside sub continent. And 3 pacers with 1 specialist spinner including Shak and Mullah will make the team good even in sub C and best outside sub C
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Old March 27, 2015, 03:21 AM
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In form Gazi adds another dimension to our attack. SS should work a bit on his Bolwing and Nasir looks a much better bowler.

Mash
Rubel
Taskin
Gazi
Shakib

Nasir
Riyad
SS
Shabbir

Zubair and Mustafizur should be working with the national team coaches and as net bowlers.
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Taijul never struck me as ODI bowler. I don't think we will see him in ODI squad anytime soon becaue sunny,jubair both are ahead of him in the pecking order plus haturi was really pissed at him after his performance against Nz. Gazi? Let him perform in the domestic league for a season first. Dude was already struggling big time even before the ban.
I dont think we ll axe Taijul after one bad outing. Dont forget he got 4/11 in the previous match. He's new to the circuit and needs a few more games. Expecting someone so inexperienced to fire in those conditions , in such a pressure match is a bit unrealistic. Hathurusingha is not someone who will be angry with someone and carry that anger with him forever, and i am not sure we should buy that story in the first place.

Also there is a distinct difference between Taijul and Sunny which was pointed out by the selectors. Taijul bowls with a lot more flight and air, which makes his bowling more attacking. And after this WC we all know an economy rate approach is not good enough, wicket taking is essential to win games.

Gazi was struggling true, but in his better days he was a valuable contributor. He also adds a bit of depth with the bat. Mash at 8 means the tail pretty much starts there. At least with Gazi we have someone who can score a few.
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I dont think we ll axe Taijul after one bad outing. Dont forget he got 4/11 in the previous match. He's new to the circuit and needs a few more games. Expecting someone so inexperienced to fire in those conditions , in such a pressure match is a bit unrealistic. Hathurusingha is not someone who will be angry with someone and carry that anger with him forever, and i am not sure we should buy that story in the first place.

Also there is a distinct difference between Taijul and Sunny which was pointed out by the selectors. Taijul bowls with a lot more flight and air, which makes his bowling more attacking. And after this WC we all know an economy rate approach is not good enough, wicket taking is essential to win games.

Gazi was struggling true, but in his better days he was a valuable contributor. He also adds a bit of depth with the bat. Mash at 8 means the tail pretty much starts there. At least with Gazi we have someone who can score a few.
Its not whether he is new to the circuit or not we all knew the only reason he made the squad in the first place because our selectors ignored jubair who is clearly coach favorite. And from the time he is being here with us its clear he isn't a big fan of picking bunch of SLAs just for the sake of it. Unless,our selectors wants to start a war with haturi jubair's place in squad is sure thing (at least for few series). That leaves only one more spot for spinners. And because of the past experience Sunny gonna get the nod before taijul imo.

Gazi was good for first few series after his debut after that he regressed. Tbh, i don't see him making the squad anytime soon unless he does something extra ordinary in the domestic circuit.

And yeah haturi was pissed at taijul after Nz match. See this

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Whats this paper Ahnaf?

I am not saying its wrong. Couple of newspapers even said Shakib threw the match to face India. Sometimes these newspapers will say crazy things to sell.

Chandika Hathurusingha is a very straightforward candid character. He wont sugarcoat. It wasnt the brightest idea to pick 3 SLA's in the squad, he expressed his views abt it. But he is too professional a person to single out an individual for defeat. If Khaled Mahmud said it, i wouldnt have doubted.

These are all young guys with many years ahead of them. Hope we are patient with them, and give them enough opportunity.
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2-2. Since all our matches are in the subcontinent in 2015. Correct?
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Whats this paper Ahnaf?

I am not saying its wrong. Couple of newspapers even said Shakib threw the match to face India. Sometimes these newspapers will say crazy things to sell.

Chandika Hathurusingha is a very straightforward candid character. He wont sugarcoat. It wasnt the brightest idea to pick 3 SLA's in the squad, he expressed his views abt it. But he is too professional a person to single out an individual for defeat. If Khaled Mahmud said it, i wouldnt have doubted.

These are all young guys with many years ahead of them. Hope we are patient with them, and give them enough opportunity.
Prothom alo.

They may be sugarcoated the conversion no doubt but i think haturi was truly disappoint.

I like taijul a lot but i don't think he is a ODI material. With more matches he can prove me wrong but with jubair and sunny ahead of him i don't see him getting matches anytime soon.
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Taijul should be nowhere near the odi team. I dont care if he picked up a hattrick against mediocre opponent. His bowling doesnt suit odis
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It depends where we are playing: In Bangladesh, Australia or in the Moon.
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khaise... matro 5 din-er khamba?

Maanlam na.... I boycott this poll.
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You cant make a team based on votes for different conditions. The best team should be there to play on any conditions. That is why I am saying criteria should be 3 pacers and 1 spinner since Shakib will get the gig as middle order batsman. Also Mullah will be there so- 3 pacers and 1 specialist spinner. 2 pacers along with 2 spinners will really make the team vulnerable outside sub continent. And 3 pacers with 1 specialist spinner including Shak and Mullah will make the team good even in sub C and best outside sub C
Couldn't agree more!! You just reflect my thought.
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khaise... matro 5 din-er khamba?

Maanlam na.... I boycott this poll.
baki asey matro char din.
taratari bhaijan'ra ashun, boshun ebong ek cup cha khan.
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