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Old May 27, 2015, 03:25 PM
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Thumbs down Disrespectful Windies ditch Chanderpaul

Shiv Chanderpaul appears set to be dropped for the Test series against Australia after he was left out of West Indies' 12-member group for a pre-series training camp in Barbados.

Chanderpaul could still make it to the Test squad when the final team is decided on May 29, 2015 after the conclusion of the practice match between the Australians and the Board President's XI. The chairman of selectors, Clive Lloyd, however indicated West Indies were keen on looking ahead.

"This was a tough decision for the selection panel to make," Lloyd said. "We recognise the significant contribution Chanderpaul has made to the West Indies teams over the last two decades, but we want to take this opportunity to introduce a number of young, promising players into the squad."

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Old May 27, 2015, 03:26 PM
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In the end it was as simple as this. The West Indies selectors decided their team were a greater chance of beating Australia without Shiv Chanderpaul than with him.

That realisation arrived in discussions following the drawn series against England, but also as a result of broader examinations of Chanderpaul's record, which had recently begun to trend drastically down from his illustrious record.

For Clive Lloyd, a fellow Guyanese, the decision to jettison a player as respected as Chanderpaul was a difficult one, but ultimately a matter of cricketing logic. In the loose collective of islands that make up the Caribbean it was bound to have created plenty of debate in circles both sporting and political, but Lloyd and the coach Phil Simmons were able to present a united and uncompromising front when explaining their choice of players to face Australia.

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Old May 27, 2015, 03:26 PM
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Brian Lara has berated the West Indies selectors and the WICB for seeking to deny Shivnarine Chanderpaul the chance of a final Test series against Australia, demanding that his former teammate be reinstated for a farewell along the lines of that given to Sachin Tendulkar by the BCCI.

Chanderpaul, 40, was omitted from the West Indies training squad ahead of their two Tests against Australia following a significant downturn in his run-making during his two most recent series, where his average dipped to little more than 16 over six matches.

However, Lara said that Chanderpaul's contribution to the game, which left him narrowly short of surpassing Lara as the most prolific Test batsman in the history of the Caribbean region, merited a more respectful farewell than the one ultimately decided on by convenor of selectors Clive Lloyd and coach Phil Simmons.

"This has absolutely nothing to do with runs or numbers," Lara told the Trinidad and Tobago Guardian. "It has to do with respect and Chanderpaul has earned the right to say goodbye in an acceptable way. In fact, he should be allowed to do it in his own way.

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Old May 27, 2015, 03:31 PM
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He was Windies' rock during their decline. I agree with Lara, he deserves to bow out with honour for all the years of service he has given West Indies. He should get a farewell series and play his last match in Guyana. WICB have been disrespectful in the manner they've discarded him. They didn't even tell him that the England series could be his last.
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Old May 27, 2015, 03:35 PM
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I think this is on Chanders. Not the selectors. Chanders should have realized during the last Test series that he no longer has it. Instead of hanging on, he should have announced that last Test against England to be his final match and gone out a winner. There is no room for sentimentality or passengers in Test cricket and I believe the fact that Phil and Clive made this call is a positive for Windies; perhaps professionalism is finally coming to my favorite 2nd team.
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Old May 27, 2015, 03:36 PM
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It's not the selector's job to tell you whether something is last or not. They can only go by performance. As a player you should know how to leave when they still want you.
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Old May 27, 2015, 05:21 PM
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Considering Shivnarine has probably been their most loyal player in the past decade, unlike the t20 renegades that WI is made up of, and their biggest performer in the test version, he should be at least be given a farewell match. Chanderpaul is the last remaining great in the team, and probably the last remaining one from the 90s (has been there since the early 90s), it will be an end of an era for them.

Good news for BD though, he was WI Sangakarra equivalent against us
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He should have announced his retirement in advance, so the selectors would have considered him for a last test in Aus series. Or how would the selectors know?

He's 40 and he should have been retired by now
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Chanderpaul should do us all genuine cricket lovers a favor - retire asap. Most painful batsman to watch on the telly.
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I'm a cricket lover (I don't know what makes someone a genuine lover or a formalin injected one) and I enjoyed the way Chanders, in his prime made bowlers bowl to his plan.
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Chanderpaul should do us all genuine cricket lovers a favor - retire asap. Most painful batsman to watch on the telly.
That's his plan, to make people like you suffer in pain.
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Old May 28, 2015, 12:16 PM
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Michael Holding, the former West Indies fast bowler, has backed the chairman of selectors Clive Lloyd's logic of jettisoning Shivnarine Chanderpaul for the Australia series. Holding said that Chanderpaul, who has managed 183 runs in his last 11 innings at 16.64, was no longer good enough to be picked for West Indies.

"I don't believe that cricketers should just get a series for getting a series sake. I don't think Shivnarine Chanderpaul has proven in recent times that he is still a good enough player to be playing for West Indies," Holding told ESPNcricinfo. "He has done yeoman service for over two decades. West Indies should be happy to have had him playing for them for that long. All good things have to come to an end.

"I saw him play against South Africa recently and he certainly did not look like the Shivnarine Chanderpaul that I was accustomed to seeing. He was a little bit slow with his reactions to the fast bowlers and we know what Australia are going to be bringing."

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Tendulkar hung on way too long, probably chasing 200 caps. He should have retired at 170 or so.
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I dont know whats happening to WI cricket.
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Old May 29, 2015, 07:41 AM
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Shivnarine Chanderpaul has been left out of West Indies' 14-member squad to face Australia in the first of two Tests starting June 3. He is 87 runs short of breaking the record for most Test runs by a West Indian, but has hit a trough of poor form and both chairman of selectors Clive Lloyd and coach Phil Simmons had felt he did not have a place in their best XI.

Chanderpaul made only 92 runs at an average of 15.33 in the three Tests against England in April and May. He has had six single-digit scores and only one fifty in his last 10 innings.

Meanwhile, the uncapped duo of Shane Dowrich, who scored twin fifties against the touring Australians, and Rajindra Chandrika find a place in the team.

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Farewell legend. It's a shame you didn't bow out of the game the way you deserved.
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The last cricket legend of West indian cricket.

The first Tiger in cricket for me.

Thanks for the memories...had a lot.

Respect..fellow Guyanese.
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End of an era for WI
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Great player. However he was getting old and the performances weren't coming in. Gave the board no choice.

Also the West Indies board isn't a forgiving one. But I think another board might have given a legend time to bow out of the game more gracefully.
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Great player. However he was getting old and the performances weren't coming in. Gave the board no choice.

Also the West Indies board isn't a forgiving one. But I think another board might have given a legend time to bow out of the game more gracefully.
Pure disrespectful.
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Chanderpaul was forced to retire by WICB. It's clear that the board treats the cricketers like slaves, which isn't possible anymore in this day and age. I cannot see any future in WI cricket unless the board changes its attitude.
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