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Old March 10, 2016, 06:38 PM
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Default Bangladesh need to score more than 140/150 against Serious teams.

And I don't mean Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
150 may be enough for irealnd and other associates,but Bangladesh need more against tougher opposition.
Imagine setting that against Australia we would get it in the 14/15th over.
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Old March 10, 2016, 10:32 PM
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Agree, but i dont think we are there yet.

This lineup seems to be a 150-160 at best team-that too depends on a good knock and a strong finish.

To be able to score 170-180+, you need 50-60 in the first 6, and another 50-60 in the last 5. In the middle ten play crafty and score at least at 6-6.5

We start as if we are playing a 50 over game. Too much of blocking, leaves. And while i like the consistency of Sabbir, he is too selfish early on trying to play himself in. It wont work if we are 30-35 in power overs.

Also from 7 onwards also you need hitters or innovators who can score quick runs-not blind sloggers. Nasir cant hit. Mashrafee is as good as a tail ender. And 9, 10, 11 for us are as good as number 11's.

We are quite far away from the big scores we see in T20. So our best bet is to restrict teams to 150, or score 150 and bowl well.
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Old March 10, 2016, 10:35 PM
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Agree.

In T20, batting and scoring runs quick enough is our biggest problem. We still waste too many balls ( dot balls) in the name of building innings.

In T20, generally batting wins the game.... and there are a bunch of slow pokes in our lineup.
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Old March 11, 2016, 08:32 AM
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Need 180+ against serious teams on good surfaces.
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Old March 11, 2016, 02:40 PM
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What I last heard is AUS does not take BD seriously - be it bilateral, away or home, or any tournaments.
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Old March 11, 2016, 07:16 PM
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I think we scored 200 only once right? Against NZ
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Old March 11, 2016, 07:28 PM
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140-150 not enough on good batting track against even lesser sides let alone serious sides. Need 160 minimum. Precisely; 175-185 be a good score to defend against batting heavy sides.
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Old March 11, 2016, 07:30 PM
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Quote:
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I think we scored 200 only once right? Against NZ
we never scored 200, our highest score is 190 vs Ireland, won the match by 71 runs, our biggest victory
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Not everyone has a similar strength... We have a stronger bowling attack and no Australia can only dream of scoring 140-150 in 14-15 overs against our bowling attack
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Old March 11, 2016, 11:29 PM
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Not everyone has a similar strength... We have a stronger bowling attack and no Australia can only dream of scoring 140-150 in 14-15 overs against our bowling attack
Umm ... No
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Old March 12, 2016, 12:50 AM
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At home anything is possible.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:03 AM
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If not 14/15,16 or 17 maybe 18.
But we chase down 180 and 200 the other night,and the Saffies' have a good attack.
We bat down to 11,assuming we don't pick Hazelwood.
Faulkner at 7,Hastings 8,Nevill at 9,Nathan Coulter Nile at 10,Zampa at 11,all capable of making 50.
And thats not looking at the top 6.
And yes ,I am lighting a match under the Oz - Bangladesh game,saying what I am saying.
BTW Mustifizur is coming back from a 2-3 week injury.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:10 AM
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I think BD will win against Australia. Just with sheer confidence.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:12 AM
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I like how everyone watching tens of thousands of matches don't fail to see the quiddity of a cricket match. There IS a reason they say cricket is a game of uncertainties. Your textbook syllogism doesn't apply in cricket ie premise 1: If a team doesn't score x it won't happen. 2: Bangladesh didn't score x. Therefore, Bangladesh cannot score x.

If one could reason one's way out then all games would be in ink.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:13 AM
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Ok.
I back Australia we had a 2 close games with India and bt S Africa 2-1,so we are now travelling well.
But you are alowed your opinion,and to why you have that opinion.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:16 AM
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Ok.
I back Australia we had a 2 close games with India and bt S Africa 2-1,so we are now travelling well.
But you are alowed your opinion,and to why you have that opinion.
Generally speaking.

As Heraclitus would say: You cannot step on the same river twice.

Different context, different matches, different variables, different results. New Zealand is EXTREMELY strong. As was South Africa. I am pretty sure BD can give Australia run for their money at home.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:18 AM
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This is not at home tho this is in India,and thats what we are talking about in this world cup.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:20 AM
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Btw, anyone else finds those "tidbits" Key to success: Team Y wins when this this this happens extremely ridiculous? Who the Chuck invented this concept? That pretty much encapsulates what's wrong with extrapolation. Just cuz from a sample size of three matches, if Kohli or so and so scores 50+, then India wins or something of that nature. It's like saying Bangladesh wins everytime a spectator takes catch at stands. Just because it happened twice or some absurd premise.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:26 AM
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Bangladesh will thrash Australia. Oops can't say that. Cuz we simply suck.


Bangladesh will cream Associates.
Oops can't say that even though they suck and here comes those dreaded red ratings.

Bangladesh will have a hard time against all teams.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:28 AM
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Yesterday it was the perfect way to start a T20 game, although they did it because it was a 12 over game. But even in 20 over matches you need to start this way.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:34 AM
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Zeesh can't I offer an opinion without being misquoted.
I said generally 150 is generally Bangladeshes big score,averaging between 130-150.
Yes I went a bit far in 14/15th over,I guess I was being cocky.
150 will bt some teams,but others it won't,is that a radical thing to say looking on Bangladesh' history in T20.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:51 AM
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Needed a couple of Aftab and Ash like players in this line up to think of 180+ totals. We don't have that.
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Old March 12, 2016, 02:04 AM
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Look I will do my the devil bowed his head because he'd been beat speech,if Bangladesh bt us.
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Old March 12, 2016, 02:30 AM
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It does not matter how deep you guys bat. I do not think Australia has the batting power to score 10 an over for 20 overs against a sub continent team in the subcontinent. you make a very valid point about Bangladesh needing to improve their scoring in this format. But you cant really set a bench mark on a "competitive" score because it varies. In Dhaka, 140+ is a winning score regardless of who the opposition is IF you have a good bowling attack. But somewhere in New Zealand even 180 wouldnt be a par score considering the size of the grounds.

Indian grounds also vary a lot. There are grounds that will require minimum 180 to be competitve and there will be grounds that would prove tough to score 100+
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Old March 12, 2016, 02:42 AM
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True I agree with a lot of those things Rinathq.
I recanted getting the score in the 14/15th over.As i said previosuly I got cocky ,its called banter.
But I believe 150 wouldn't be enough to bt OZ,NZ,India and S Africa.

But true Bangladesh played most their T20's in Bangladesh.
India is different,probably should have played more T20's abroad.Would have helped Bangladesh a lot more.

But Bangladesh not got 150 in every game,some they got 120,130,140.
They got a 50/60 % win rate over Zimbabwe and sub con sides.
But they are yet to play those 4 sides I mentioned,who are very good in T20.
I think Australia is 2nd/3rd favourite by the bookies.

But yes we could lose against Bangladesh,would depend on a 150+ score,Taskin,al-amin and Mustifizur doing most the work,I have a worry over Bangladeshis' spinners standing up.
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