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Old March 12, 2016, 01:03 AM
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Default You gotta feel for Ireland, Netherland, Scotland.

Man this is such a cruel tournament even for Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. But no way, this should be called a world cup. This is total discrimination from ICC. These teams deserve better.

ICC, you couldnt take 2 teams from 2 groups? India were gonna lose so much money if 2 more associate teams got to play? Man have some conscience. Shame on ICC. Shame on you.

Please, Dutch captain, do not be disappointed with BD. We had no choice but to qualify. However, you have every right to be mad at ICC, What ICC is doing to all the associate country by providing this format is beyond injustice.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:22 AM
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Yeah... this is going to demoralize and kill cricket at associate level. These teams are good and they can compete. Totally ridiculous from ICC. Its a crime not to have at least a reserve day.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:33 AM
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I dont know how ICC is being so quiet after all the comments from the associates teams. I guess because they associates #ShameonICC
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:36 AM
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Bhogle has come and said if your poor thats your fault,get used to if I can misquote him.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:42 AM
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Qualifiers. Aint World cup fo shur.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:45 AM
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Should be 2 groups of 8 teams. 7 games or everyone plus semis and final. Tourney can still be played in 20 days.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:53 AM
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ICC doesnt want these teams beating their so called elite teams. Otherwise, they might hv to give them test status. Which means less money for big 3. Its all about the money lebowski.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:59 AM
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No its India,Australia,S Africa and England,don't want to be knocked out by a minnow.
Its just Zimbabwe and Bangladesh are the fall guys who have to prove themselves worthy of promotion.
The Associates they are treated as nothing.
Ireland and Afghanistan may have one day status but the 9 top sides won't play them.
Really found Bhogles' comments distatesful.
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Old March 12, 2016, 01:59 AM
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Should be 2 groups of 8 teams. 7 games or everyone plus semis and final. Tourney can still be played in 20 days.
This is not feasible. You have to give time for teams and FANS to travel unless only two venues are used for group matches.

14 teams should be fine. 4 teams from Associates should satisfy all members. 6 games + Semis and Finals.

Heck at this point I'd take 12 teams without much fuss. This qualifiers sucks. This is not WC.
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Old March 12, 2016, 02:01 AM
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This is his tweet,BCCI employee.
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Old March 12, 2016, 02:03 AM
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they have made the most of what they have in previous WCs, someone show Mr.bhogle Ireland's and Ned's matches ve England
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Old March 12, 2016, 03:20 AM
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spor...2e9c1d2915b105
Gideon Haigh on the Issue.
Associates getting good press.
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Old March 12, 2016, 03:25 AM
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No its India,Australia,S Africa and England,don't want to be knocked out by a minnow.
Its just Zimbabwe and Bangladesh are the fall guys who have to prove themselves worthy of promotion.
The Associates they are treated as nothing.
Ireland and Afghanistan may have one day status but the 9 top sides won't play them.
Really found Bhogles' comments distatesful.
Welcome to the club. That guy manages to say so much disrespectful and insulting things with a sweet smile on his face, it is remarkable. Never liked that guy.
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Old March 12, 2016, 08:02 AM
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If more teams come in and cricket is globalized, ICC could possibly triple their profit over the next three or so decades. But ICC is more concerned about the short term profit, and splitting of its revenue which mainly comes from India, Australia, England and South Africa. Many former cricket stars, including Sachin Tendulker himself was disappointed at ICC shutting the doors of the CWC to associate members. ESPNCricinfo, Associate cricket players, former cricketers of test playing nations have all raised their voices about this, but it only lands in deaf ears of ICC, who doesn't even respond.

ICC is silently, but actively killing off Associate Teams, by minimizing and limiting their cricket matches against stronger opponents, by making it nearly impossible for them to play in the main stage of any international cricket competition and by continuously cutting their funding.

No other international sporting bodies have this level of discrimination between full and associate members. According to ICC rule, even if an associate member is ranked in top 8 in T20s, they don't qualify for the main event, they still need to play qualifiers to get into the world T20.

If a game is only fully played by 9 teams in the world (4 of them from South Asia), please don't bother calling it a World Cup. ICC should rename it to Austral-South Asia cup (plus 3 guests).
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Old March 12, 2016, 08:14 AM
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Netherlands are a very good fighting team, gave Bangladesh a real scare for their money...yeah, very disappointing from ICC.
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12 teams would be ideal and less cruel as a result the remaining games would not be dead rubber at all...we fans would have something to watch but now other than Bangladesh and Oman game it's pretty much all meaningless
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Old March 12, 2016, 08:30 AM
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Habib I used to like Bhogle till he said that,what he just said was mean spiritted.
Thats like saying your poor you deserve it,you deserve what you get.
Or saying to a woman you deserved to be raped because you we're wearing a short skirt.
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Old March 12, 2016, 08:32 AM
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If it were 12 teams, then Ireland/Netharlands would bank on BD/Oman thrashing the other opponent and they would have to fight for the second spot using net run rate, that would make things very very very interesting.

T20 rankings mean very little compared to current form: anybody can beat anybody when momentum is seized. Associate teams causing upsets will make things really interesting for everybody and good for advertising cricket.
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Old March 12, 2016, 09:22 AM
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If more teams come in and cricket is globalized, ICC could possibly triple their profit over the next three or so decades. But ICC is more concerned about the short term profit, and splitting of its revenue which mainly comes from India, Australia, England and South Africa. Many former cricket stars, including Sachin Tendulker himself was disappointed at ICC shutting the doors of the CWC to associate members. ESPNCricinfo, Associate cricket players, former cricketers of test playing nations have all raised their voices about this, but it only lands in deaf ears of ICC, who doesn't even respond.

ICC is silently, but actively killing off Associate Teams, by minimizing and limiting their cricket matches against stronger opponents, by making it nearly impossible for them to play in the main stage of any international cricket competition and by continuously cutting their funding.

No other international sporting bodies have this level of discrimination between full and associate members. According to ICC rule, even if an associate member is ranked in top 8 in T20s, they don't qualify for the main event, they still need to play qualifiers to get into the world T20.

If a game is only fully played by 9 teams in the world (4 of them from South Asia), please don't bother calling it a World Cup. ICC should rename it to Austral-South Asia cup (plus 3 guests).
Well said. At this rate cricket will become another baseball or American Football.
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Old March 12, 2016, 09:25 AM
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This is his tweet,BCCI employee.
Pathetic! What did Kenya get when it made the most of it? If they didn't get anything, why would others be motivated to replicate success?
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Old March 12, 2016, 09:49 AM
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Yes kenya is an example. Ireland too aren't getting much incentive either.
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Old March 12, 2016, 09:54 AM
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Not sure what Harsha is saying, is he talking about the number of games? or is he pointing out the revenue received by those associate boards? Sometime, board officials are busy spending money for their own activities, rather then looking for more activities for team.

Cant just believe he said something like this in such a time and context.
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Old March 12, 2016, 09:56 AM
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Harsha has a way of saying nasty things with a geeky smile. As if he meant no harm.
He has said somethings on commiebox in BD games which could have been avoided.
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Old March 12, 2016, 10:32 AM
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We aren't invited by Aus, SA, Ind and England for last 6/7 years. And not even upcoming few years... No one feel for us...
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Old March 12, 2016, 12:30 PM
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We have it bad as well. We hv a fake test status where we rarely fet to play tests. Man I wish there were a different cricket organization
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