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Old March 16, 2016, 06:01 PM
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Default Potential T20 batsmen outside of national squad

Even though our t20 squad starts playing well since couple of months, however, half of our batters are not suited in this format. Such as Mushi, Mithun, Nasir etc. We have almost same set of batsmen are playing every format fficeffice" /> . We don’t have any power hitter. Our stand by T20 batsmen are Imrul and Hom both sucks in this format.

Don’t we have any other batsman in our domestic circuit who are capable to play in this format? What we have got from this BPL? I put up some name as potential

Big Z
Jahrul
Liton (?)
Zia (?)

*Sorry I am struggling to remember anyone else….may be anamul

In a nutshell, we need to find at least 2 stroke makers to make our squad strong. We cannot afford to play with these non t20 batsmen.
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Old March 16, 2016, 06:08 PM
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We have a pace hunter program, why not open up a 'Hack Hunt Program'

Prepare the flattest pitch possible and get some bowlers from the national team to bowl and see which players can slog and hoick the ball over the place. Find the big hitters, regardless of technique as long as they can take advantage of a damn flat pitch to score 4s and 6s
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Old March 16, 2016, 06:30 PM
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I support quick fire 20/25 than struggling 30 runs innings. The problem is selectors are stereotype they don't think out of the box.
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Old March 16, 2016, 07:04 PM
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What is the criteria to be considered?
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Old March 16, 2016, 10:50 PM
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Sorry but we dont have anyone outside the national squad. And even if some of them do end up performing in BPL, they will struggle in international cricket.

Anamul, Liton, Mominul etc all had the opportunity to prove themselves in BPL but didnt.

Even in the NT, except Shabbir, Tamim, Shakib and maybe Riyad none of the others are quite worthy of the T20 format.
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Old March 16, 2016, 11:14 PM
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Who is the Kapali?
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Old March 16, 2016, 11:16 PM
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Mohammed Ashraful Matin - Tailor made for T20 batting.
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Old March 16, 2016, 11:36 PM
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Anamul,Anamul,Anamul

The man should be in the squad already. One injury, and subsequently the selectors have forgotten about him. Btw, he can come good in ODI also.

Give Anamul a chance.

Also, I see you dismissed Kayes very quickly. Don't. Deserves more chances, he is acually one of our better 6 hitters in the team. I mean you give cons like Mushy chances after chances, can't hurt to give Kayes a run as well. Also Kayes has proper technique , not a hack job like Mithun or Zia.

Btw, remove the myth from your mind that hacks are suited to T20. Hacks are not suited to any format. We need players who have technique first, but then who also are ultra aggressive, who watch the ball closely and want to clear the boundary as many times as possible in their innings.
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Old March 16, 2016, 11:50 PM
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We have a batsman who has a excellent average by our standards in T20Is and T20s in general, one of the performers in 2012 and 2013 edition, a better keeper than Mushfiq and if needed is a very agile fielder.

Big Z sucks.

Liton has a lot of potential because he has some muscles but he has a mental block.

We need to have another T20 tournament barring the BPL and that tournament should be short and no international players needed
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Old March 17, 2016, 12:27 AM
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I would bring back Big Z .
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Old March 17, 2016, 12:45 AM
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I miss asha in this format.. Big Z is not a bad choice.
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Old March 17, 2016, 01:10 AM
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Anamul,Anamul,Anamul

The man should be in the squad already. One injury, and subsequently the selectors have forgotten about him. Btw, he can come good in ODI also.

Give Anamul a chance.

Also, I see you dismissed Kayes very quickly. Don't. Deserves more chances, he is acually one of our better 6 hitters in the team. I mean you give cons like Mushy chances after chances, can't hurt to give Kayes a run as well. Also Kayes has proper technique , not a hack job like Mithun or Zia.

Btw, remove the myth from your mind that hacks are suited to T20. Hacks are not suited to any format. We need players who have technique first, but then who also are ultra aggressive, who watch the ball closely and want to clear the boundary as many times as possible in their innings.

Imrul's technique is ideal for slip-catching practice. His clueless pokes and wafts against the new ball is truly cringe-worthy. Whether you have him there, or some "hack" like Mithun or Zia, you will acquire the same result - a single digit score and a subsequent early wicket.

Anamul's footwork is similarly cringe-worthy. But I concede that he is very much suited to only the shortest format and a far better performer than the current bunch.
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Old March 17, 2016, 01:54 AM
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Mushy is just out of form now. When in form, he's a world-class ODI batsman and an OK T20 one. He's our best WK-batsman.

#2 and #7 are the key weaknesses in the batting lineup. Hopefully, one of Soumya and Anamul will come good. Both have potential. #7 is a bigger worry. Currently, there's no good power-hitting batsman on the horizon.

This is probably the best T20 team we can field now:

Tamim
Anamul
Sabbir
Shakib
Mushfiq
Mahmudullah
Soumya
Mashrafe (unless he's retiring)
Taijul/Al-Amin (selection based on pitch/conditions)
Taskin
Mustafiz

That's where Soumya plays in Tests. He shouldn't be playing Tests, but he could do a decent job there in the T20 format.

As far as bowling is concerned, would like to see Taijul given a chance as our spin option in Arafat's stead. And Mash should bowl 2-3 overs and give Mahmudullah 1-2.
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Old March 17, 2016, 02:12 AM
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I believe Bangladesh as a whole is a very amateur and subpar T20 side. There aint anyone specialist waiting on the sidelines. But that just means, the two option is to A) Stick with a set of players and back them to perform or B)keep trying new players and cash in on those once in a while performances. Plan A hasnt been working for us in this format. So its high time we switch to plan B. T20 is a game of nerves and thats probably why you see so many young talents failing to convert their Test and ODI performance onto T20 but you see a lot of these Veterans being the stars of the format. BCB has always ignored our list veterans so that tells why we are behind.

Based on what I saw in the last 5-6 years, my list of players that has a good chance of performing are, (note: they are not all veterans)

Shahriar Nafees
Shamsur Rahman
Alok Kapali
Junayed Siddique
Mosharraf Hossain
Saqlain Sajib
Taijul Islam
Jahirul Islam
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Old March 17, 2016, 02:28 AM
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Based on what I saw in the last 5-6 years, my list of players that has a good chance of performing are, (note: they are not all veterans)

Shahriar Nafees
Shamsur Rahman

Alok Kapali
Junayed Siddique
Mosharraf Hossain
Saqlain Sajib
Taijul Islam
Jahirul Islam
They were all poor in BPL 3, and it was clear that they don't belong in the NT setup.

Can't comment on Kapali because he hardly got the chance to bat even when he started because he had Zaidi, who played well in most games, in front of him.

Taijul and Mosharraf were decent. (Definitely better than Arafat in BPL 3.) My pick is Taijul.
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Old March 17, 2016, 02:35 AM
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They were all poor in BPL 3, and it was clear that they don't belong in the NT setup.
Yeah Mushy doesn't belong in the NT setup aswell then.
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Old March 17, 2016, 02:38 AM
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They were all poor in BPL 3, and it was clear that they don't belong in the NT setup.

Can't comment on Kapali because he hardly got the chance to bat even when he started because he had Zaidi, who played well in most games, in front of him.

Taijul and Mosharraf were decent. (Definitely better than Arafat in BPL 3.) My pick is Taijul.
For the record, Jahirul, Nafees, Alok performed better then Soumya, Mushy, Nasir, Mithun.... So i guess they dont belong either
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Old March 17, 2016, 02:45 AM
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Yeah Mushy doesn't belong in the NT setup aswell then.
Mushy currently is out of form. Before he went out of form he was averaging 50+ in ODIs and was decent in T20s.

Nafees, Shamsur, Junayed, and Jahurul were never good (Nafees served his purpose against the Zimbabwes a long time ago.).

And even when Mushy is out of form, the difference in technique between him and those batsmen is apparent.
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Old March 17, 2016, 02:49 AM
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I'm a fan of Big Z specially in the T20 format. He can get that quick 25 in a destructive fearless fashion.

I was in the ground in Nottingham for that World T20 knock against India in 2009. All the Indian fans around me were so worried seeing what he was doing to their bowlers. If he had stayed in another 15 balls we would have won that game.
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Old March 17, 2016, 02:49 AM
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For the record, Jahirul, Nafees, Alok performed better then Soumya, Mushy, Nasir, Mithun.... So i guess they dont belong either
They didn't perform better than Nasir. Nasir scored a few run a ball 30s. Nafees and Jahurul were completely useless, and Alok barely got a chance to bat.

Soumya is yet to look good in the T20 format. Mithun is yet to look good as a cricketer.
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I don't know if there are many outside of the national team, maybe junaid if he's improved... Maybe kapali, I think shamsur could get more chances, otherwise I think we need to look at youngsters but most have been given a bit of a run already e.g. liton.

There really isn't anyone ready outside the national team imo, it's going to require work to get any of them up to standard. Also it's not like mushy and others currently in the team don't have the ability, they just are making poor decisions when out in the middle, not focusing etc. mushy has all the capability to be a really good t20 batsman, he's showed that ability in other formats.
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Where is our "Chokka Naeem" ? We had so much hope on Chokka Naeem, now he is totally out of focus.

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I don't know if there are many outside of the national team, maybe junaid if he's improved... Maybe kapali, I hunk shamsur could get more chances, otherwise I think we need to look at youngsters but most have been given a bit of a run already e.g. liton.

There really isn't anyone ready outside the national team imo, it's going to require work to get any of them up to standard. Also it's not like mushy and others currently in the team don't have the ability, they just are making poor decisions when out in the middle, not focusing etc. mushy has all the capability to be a really good t20 batsman, he's showed that ability in other formats.
Unfortunately Kapali looks overweight so his fitness won't be up to the mark.
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Unfortunately Kapali looks overweight so his fitness won't be up to the mark.
bhai, that is not issue. look at the pakistani bastman like Sharjeel or Imad they are very chubby looking, the thing is we need a batsman who can score, and his fitness that can be bring back by caoching stuff. It is not only imply to Kapali i mean in gneral for any batsman who can score few runs for us. Kapali has experince of playing international level. So what worse will happen if he can come in place of Mithun. Look at Soaib malik after many years not selected in team, and now rightly picked he is showing his value in the team. It not like that Malik immidiately started scoring runs after his return, he struugled a bit at the begining but selectors showed the confidance and now paying off.
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They didn't perform better than Nasir. Nasir scored a few run a ball 30s. Nafees and Jahurul were completely useless, and Alok barely got a chance to bat.

Soumya is yet to look good in the T20 format. Mithun is yet to look good as a cricketer.
Check the stats... Watch the highlights. Nasir was the worst of the lot!
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