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Old November 3, 2016, 06:02 AM
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Default Do we need a Leg spinner?

Looks like all the test nations except bangladesh has a good quality spinner. Even Afg has a top leg spinner. We are struggling to find a leggy. Why? Probably leg spin is an art and needs tremendous amount of effort and dedication. Besides BCB and clubs dont help em to groom. To be honest we badly need a leggy to encounter different conditions such as aus and nz. Good news atleast we are trying someone "Tanvir Haider" in this series. Hope he fulfills this requirement. All the best and keep hunting for a leggy.


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Old November 3, 2016, 06:36 AM
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Definitely. For some reason leg spinners have the uncanny knack of picking wickets. Perhaps psychologically a batsman perceives a leg spinner to be more dangerous. Yasir Shah, Imran Tahir, Adil Rashid, Mishra, Craemer, Rashid Khan, Zampa. All of these guys pick wickets, make breakthroughs.

Tanveer Haider seems more of an all rounder going by his record. I hope they dont pick a player just because he is a leg spinner.
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Old November 3, 2016, 06:47 AM
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Tanveer Haider can't even be considered an all-rounder, look at his bowling stats in domestics itd nothing impressive. We'd do well with Jubair rather than this guy
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Old November 3, 2016, 07:58 AM
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wait until BPL finishes to declare final squad
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Old November 3, 2016, 08:02 AM
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Nur Hossain Munna, Tanveer Haider and Likhon are the only real leggies in the country.

Our stocks are dry and there is little we can do about it.
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Old November 3, 2016, 09:24 AM
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Did he get any team in bpl?
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Old November 3, 2016, 09:26 AM
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Ashraful can bowl leggies if he wants to.
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Old November 3, 2016, 09:32 AM
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LegSpinners can be deadly on any pitches, especially on flat or nothing pitches, a quality Leg Spinner gives the batsmen the illusion that it is a crumbling pitch with his variations and googlies and wrong'uns. Leg Spinner can be handy against opponents who are rock solid wall. Shakib, Miraz, {Insert_leg_spinner} completes BD spin attack.
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Old November 3, 2016, 12:51 PM
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tanvir hayder will be going to Aus for training camp along with nazmul hossain shanto as report suggests.
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Old November 3, 2016, 01:40 PM
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Ashraful can bowl leggies if he wants to.
The double bounce ones?
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Old November 3, 2016, 01:41 PM
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What happened with all the hype on Jubair?
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Old November 3, 2016, 10:14 PM
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What happened with all the hype on Jubair?
They might have given up hope on him too early.

The kid is inconsistent, doesnt train hard, doesnt practice. But once in a while he ll have a wonderful game in a domestic match and pick 3-4 wickets.

No one, other than Hathurisngha has faith in him. I guess the onus is on Jubair to prove himself at a high profile event like BPL.

Shakib, Mehedi and Jubair. Could be a potent attack in all formats
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Old November 4, 2016, 12:54 AM
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Alok Kapali... the guy who couldve been our leggie allrounder in tests and T20s. But then it was a combination of laziness from him and ignorance from the board and selectors
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Old November 4, 2016, 01:06 AM
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Let's train up Tanvir haider under Shane Warne!!
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Old November 4, 2016, 01:47 AM
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A leg spinner would be quite handy. But it is a difficult art to master. Jubair looked kinda ok but I read he has not improved his bowling.
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Old November 4, 2016, 02:03 AM
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Tanveer Haider can't even be considered an all-rounder, look at his bowling stats in domestics itd nothing impressive. We'd do well with Jubair rather than this guy
Tanvir has the best stats among our three leggies. He is the most experienced one too. Please check the stats of Tanvir, Jubair and Noor once again.
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Old November 4, 2016, 02:33 AM
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Tanvir has the best stats among our three leggies. He is the most experienced one too. Please check the stats of Tanvir, Jubair and Noor once again.
How? I'm comparing their bowling mind you. Look at their List A stats, Jubair as poor as he is at least manages to get wickets, whereas Tanveer has only 14 in 43 matches and Noor has 41 in 40. Clearly Tanveer can't even be compared with other two in the LO format, not to mentiona that is not even all-rounder material and more like a part-timer

In FC cricket only thing Tanveer has going for him is that he has a better average and sr than the other two (just slightly), but he barely even bowls compared to the other two which is quite evident in their wicket tallies. Tanveer has almost twice as many matches as Noor, yet has bowled less deliveries than him. Noor has just as many 4-fers as Tanveer and four 5-fers whereas Tanveer has none yet, not to mention Noor is bagging wickets since has has just as many as Tanveer while playing half the matches. Even Jubair is getting more wickets than Tanveer.
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Haturi is desperately searching for a legspinner in BD. Purely for the upcoming big tournaments such as the Champions trophy and the future world cup. Even to the point where he asked a very high level sydney grade cricketer who is bangladeshi ethnically to come to BD and train for a few months with his leg spin (even though he is actually a top order batsman in sydney grade cricket).

Tanbir Haider was the only legspinner that wasn't tried in the BD set up and hence Haturi experimented with him during the NZ series. Haturi probably didn't rate Haider in the first place but was obliged to test him out. Haturi's is purely eyeing to win a major trophy hence why he has happened to experiment with players such as Haider and Hom and not just suddenly test em out raw during one of the main tournaments.

Haturi has received a lot of criticism but he is correct in the sense that he needs to have high class players filling every position in the team i.e. high class offie (mehedi), high class leggie (n/a), high class SLA (shakib) etc. to take in the squad to the major tournaments. So he is trying to stay ahead of the game.

Not so sure why he axed Nasir but i guess he doesn't see him fulfilling a certain role in the team in the major tournaments.

Freaken Jubair why do you have to mess up everything man. Coulda been the legspinner we needed for the future.
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Old January 30, 2017, 05:51 AM
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Before going on a wild goose chase for a leggie, the question that should be asked is whether we can facilitate a leg spinner in the team?

Whilst it is true that good leggies can take wickets, they can also go for a lot of runs. Historically speaking, teams have benefitted from a leg spinner with their success pinned on what happens at the other end. A legspinner can really wreak havoc if the other bowlers are not leaking runs and building pressure from the other end and so this is something we need to tighten up on first.
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Old January 30, 2017, 09:35 AM
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The wild goose chase must end until we find a definite candidate with proven skills. I dont think we can manufacture a leg spinner out of anyone who bowls wrist spin.
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Old January 30, 2017, 10:02 AM
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leg spin is a very difficult art to master and not everyone can master it, you need at least 3/4 stock deliveries up your sleeve and Jubair Hossain and maybe Noor Hossain are the only ones in Bangladesh who has stock deliveries. (google, wrong'un, flipper, leg break). you can't consistently bowl the same leg break. you will always get hit if you err even slightly and modern T20 cricket is even more unforgiving. I don't think we will ever find a solution to this problem unless Jubair/Noor gets serious about their game or someone pops out of nowhere.
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Old January 30, 2017, 01:47 PM
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I knew Tanbir would suck.

Been looking at Noor's recent stats in domestics and he's been doing poorly too
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I bowl leg spin and I play club cricket in Canada... maybe I should try out
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Wahidul Goni's latest interview on leg spinners. He talks about his career & coaching,his academy, recent spinners hunt etc.

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আমার কাছে কারণটা খুব স্পষ্ট— আমার সময়ে বাংলাদেশের কেউ যেমন লেগ স্পিনটা বোঝেনি, তেমনি এখনো কেউ বোঝে না। লিখনকে (জুবায়ের হোসেন) দিয়ে চেষ্টা হয়েছে। তবে ছেলেটিকে সময়ের আগে জাতীয় দলে খেলিয়ে দেওয়া হয়েছে। আমি এখনো মনে করি, ও অনেক দিন জাতীয় দলে খেলার সামর্থ্য রাখে। এই যে কিছু দিন আগে রবির স্পিন হান্ট কার্যক্রমে আমি প্রধান কোচ ছিলাম। সেখানে বাছাই করা ১০ জনের মধ্যে সাতটি ছেলেই তো লেগ স্পিনার। ওদের ঘষেমেজে তৈরি করতে পারলে ভবিষ্যতে অনেক লেগ স্পিনার দেখবেন।
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Definitely. For some reason leg spinners have the uncanny knack of picking wickets. Perhaps psychologically a batsman perceives a leg spinner to be more dangerous. Yasir Shah, Imran Tahir, Adil Rashid, Mishra, Craemer, Rashid Khan, Zampa. All of these guys pick wickets, make breakthroughs.

Tanveer Haider seems more of an all rounder going by his record. I hope they dont pick a player just because he is a leg spinner.
Only one player from that list has any success in tests
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