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Old April 22, 2017, 07:35 AM
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Default Shakib New T20 Captain

It's official. His our new T20 captain. My opinion - worse decision ever. The guy who warms the bench for Kolkatta becomes our captain? Should have been Mahmudullah. Let's hope he proves me wrong, has a good bowling attack to work with, good luck.
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Old April 22, 2017, 07:40 AM
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Will be interesting, will be interested to see how this affects the players and how they play and their determination/belief.
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Old April 22, 2017, 07:58 AM
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New Zealand's best player(kane) at the moment also warmed the bench for SRH...

So, IPL isn't a good yardstick.
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Old April 22, 2017, 08:05 AM
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The IPL is the best yardstick for cricket in the history of the world. Without the validation of an IPL team you are nobody. Shakib is a nobody. How can he captain the BD team? It MUST be a young rising star like Riyad, who is likely to get an IPL contract soon.
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Old April 22, 2017, 08:27 AM
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It's official. His our new T20 captain. My opinion - worse decision ever. The guy who warms the bench for Kolkatta becomes our captain? Should have been Mahmudullah. Let's hope he proves me wrong, has a good bowling attack to work with, good luck.
Wasn't aware that Mahmudullah was an IPL star.
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Old April 22, 2017, 08:33 AM
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He prefers not to warm the bench in IPL.

Rather he is enjoying T20 cricket in DPL, his last 2 list a match was like with SR 120+

He seems to be in good form going into champions trophy.
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Good choice, he should eventually take over odi too
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Old April 22, 2017, 11:48 AM
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The IPL is the best yardstick for cricket in the history of the world. Without the validation of an IPL team you are nobody. Shakib is a nobody. How can he captain the BD team? It MUST be a young rising star like Riyad, who is likely to get an IPL contract soon.
Couldn't agree more! When he's not warming the bench what value does he add to the team anyway? How difficult is it to be just a stingy wicket taker while winning couple of fat mom awards as he did in 2012? In 2014 he may have been the only all rounder to take 10 wickets and score 200 runs, but don't forget there were 3 other real batsmen who scored faster than his 150 SR. The ignorant fools know who are voting for him in the below link should be duly reminded they're not voting for the All time IPL benchwarmer XI.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/iplxi/co...y/1092517.html
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Couldn't agree more! When he's not warming the bench what value does he add to the team anyway? How difficult is it to be just a stingy wicket taker while winning couple of fat mom awards as he did in 2012? In 2014 he may have been the only all rounder to take 10 wickets and score 200 runs, but don't forget there were 3 other real batsmen who scored faster than his 150 SR. The ignorant fools know who are voting for him in the below link should be duly reminded they're not voting for the All time IPL benchwarmer XI.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/iplxi/co...y/1092517.html
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Couldn't agree more! When he's not warming the bench what value does he add to the team anyway? How difficult is it to be just a stingy wicket taker while winning couple of fat mom awards as he did in 2012? In 2014 he may have been the only all rounder to take 10 wickets and score 200 runs, but don't forget there were 3 other real batsmen who scored faster than his 150 SR. The ignorant fools know who are voting for him in the below link should be duly reminded they're not voting for the All time IPL benchwarmer XI.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/iplxi/co...y/1092517.html

Hilarious.

Shakib definitely has to be the most misused cricketer in IPL history. Barely ever got to bat in his preferred position. And bowling in the powerplay really should be the job of some other pacers.

Some teams would kill to get hold of Shakib. Because he is a "genuine" allrounder. Emphasis on the word genuine.
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Old April 22, 2017, 04:50 PM
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Couldn't agree more! When he's not warming the bench what value does he add to the team anyway? How difficult is it to be just a stingy wicket taker while winning couple of fat mom awards as he did in 2012? In 2014 he may have been the only all rounder to take 10 wickets and score 200 runs, but don't forget there were 3 other real batsmen who scored faster than his 150 SR. The ignorant fools know who are voting for him in the below link should be duly reminded they're not voting for the All time IPL benchwarmer XI.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/iplxi/co...y/1092517.html
Exactly. Anyone who thinks Shakib is a great cricketer needs to buy a new brain. Facts and stats are for losers. Skin color and country of origin are the only true measures of cricketing greatness. The paler your complexion, the higher is your score. The further your city of birth is from Dhaka, the higher is your score. On both those measures Shakib does very poorly. Consequently, KKR are absolutely right in shunning him. At best, he should be the designated water carrier for the team.
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Old April 22, 2017, 09:54 PM
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Then how come no team bids highly for him in auctions. If they wanted him bad enough they would get him. KKR paying him peanuts
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Where did IPL come from?
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Old April 23, 2017, 12:18 PM
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Then how come no team bids highly for him in auctions. If they wanted him bad enough they would get him. KKR paying him peanuts
It has more to do with the roles they're looking to fill and perceived commercial appeal/to an extent certain types alluded to by Shubho. Only time will tell whether KKR can really win a title in the near future without Shak but we can look at what he did during the two title runs.

In 2012, Shak was randomly picked 6 times throughout the regular season, hardly getting any chance to find rhythm. Here's the list of performances in chronological order:
4 (4) and 21/2
16 (10) and 17/3 (MOM)
4 (8) and 26/1
27/1
13 (12), 25/1
42 (30), 18/2 (MOM)
First qualifier: 1(3), 36/1, took key wicket of David Warner cheaply to put Delhi on the backfoot from which they never recovered.
Final: 25/1, 11*(7), was there till the end to complete the chase.

Now compare this to most of the Stoinis', Grandhommes, or even Woakes of the world and you'll get the picture.


In 2014, he didn't win any awards but he could've easily won for any of these performances:

Match 19
MOM: James Faulkner - 2*, 11/3
Shak - 29* (18), 23/1, only one to put up a fight in a losing cause

Match 25
MOM: Praveen Tambe - 26/3,
Shak - 21*(14), 25/1, again ran out of partners in losing cause

Match 43
MOM: Umesh Yadav 26/3
Shak 22/2, squeezed the runs in the pivotal middle overs

Match 47
Robin Uthapa 67 (39)
Shak 30/0, 46* (21), chased down target

Match 49
Robin Uthapa 83* (51)
Shak 60 (38), 27/0
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Then how come no team bids highly for him in auctions. If they wanted him bad enough they would get him. KKR paying him peanuts
It's because of the fact that there r lots of players in ipl who r way way better than him.

He's a bangladeshi great but in ipl he has to compete with players who perhaps r 10 times more suitable to do the job for their respective franchise than shakib. Even in the last match when he played for kkr he got tonked apart.

Nevertheless he's a bangladeshi great and there's hardly anybody in Bangladesh who's a better t20 player than him. So, BCB did a pretty good job by making him our future t20 captain.
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It's because of the fact that there r lots of players in ipl who r way way better than him.

He's a bangladeshi great but in ipl he has to compete with players who perhaps r 10 times more suitable to do the job for their respective franchise than shakib. Even in the last match when he played for kkr he got tonked apart.

Nevertheless he's a bangladeshi great and there's hardly anybody in Bangladesh who's a better t20 player than him. So, BCB did a pretty good job by making him our future t20 captain.
What are you talking about? He's not even a Bangladeshi great. Forehead Razor so much better than him.
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It's because of the fact that there r lots of players in ipl who r way way better than him.

He's a bangladeshi great but in ipl he has to compete with players who perhaps r 10 times more suitable to do the job for their respective franchise than shakib. Even in the last match when he played for kkr he got tonked apart.

Nevertheless he's a bangladeshi great and there's hardly anybody in Bangladesh who's a better t20 player than him. So, BCB did a pretty good job by making him our future t20 captain.
Not so true. In the last BPL.

Mahmudullah was the second highest run scorer, after Tamim Iqbal.
14 match, 396 runs, average of 33, SR of 118. Shakib was 20th in most runs list.
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Shakib took 13 wickets from 14 match. Mahmudullah took 10 wickets from 14 match.

Clearly Shakib bowls better in T20 than Mahmudullah.
But Mahmudullah bats better than Shakib as evidenced by BPL. Also his recent improvement in T20I.

It was just a poor choice of making Shakib captain.
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It's because of the fact that there r lots of players in ipl who r way way better than him.

He's a bangladeshi great but in ipl he has to compete with players who perhaps r 10 times more suitable to do the job for their respective franchise than shakib. Even in the last match when he played for kkr he got tonked apart.

Nevertheless he's a bangladeshi great and there's hardly anybody in Bangladesh who's a better t20 player than him. So, BCB did a pretty good job by making him our future t20 captain.
Lots of players better than Shakib?

Then tell me why Shakib has been the number one allrounder in the world in T20s and has seldom been rivalled. So international cricket doesn't have better players but IPL somehow does?
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tar upor, ek ta dol odhinaiok'er "persona" nei. Amra ki chabo amader dol omerudondi prani'r moto hok? kokkhonoi na.
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Not so true. In the last BPL.

Mahmudullah was the second highest run scorer, after Tamim Iqbal.
14 match, 396 runs, average of 33, SR of 118. Shakib was 20th in most runs list.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/bangla...ype=tournament

Shakib took 13 wickets from 14 match. Mahmudullah took 10 wickets from 14 match.

Clearly Shakib bowls better in T20 than Mahmudullah.
But Mahmudullah bats better than Shakib as evidenced by BPL. Also his recent improvement in T20I.

It was just a poor choice of making Shakib captain.
If only I could show you our last ball of batting innings in last T20 against Sl
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tar upor, ek ta dol odhinaiok'er "persona" nei. Amra ki chabo amader dol omerudondi prani'r moto hok? kokkhonoi na.
Ji ji...shetai...

Tar upor, Amar keno jani shob shomoye Mahmudullah-er picture dekhle money hoi, o shokaley ghum thekey uthey mookh haat dhoi nai...shudhu bathroom sherei, mookh haat naa dhuiyei jeno o paratha/deem-er omlet nastaa khaitey boshchey! Oki diye captainship kemney hobey?
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Probably Shakib will also be front runner for other formats in the coming years.

Riyad will be kicking himself. Not too long ago, he was a preferred candidate for captaincy. Let himself down through poor form.
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