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Old May 27, 2017, 12:48 PM
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Default Is it so hard to invest in a big hitter down the order.

We have zero. I mean zero finishers who can hit big.

We had Sabbir but now he is a freaking no. 3 batsman with limited skills. We had Zia and co. come here and there.

When are we finally going to realise that these days 6-8 need to be powerful strikers of the ball and not lutuputu players

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Old May 27, 2017, 12:49 PM
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I vote for Khal Drogo to make a return
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Old May 27, 2017, 01:22 PM
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I vote for Khal Drogo to make a return
Bro, this is not time for cheap trolling. No need to put salt on wound
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Old May 27, 2017, 01:25 PM
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Point taken.
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Old May 27, 2017, 01:27 PM
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Vepu is on fire.

Have mercy on aklemp bhai. He is an optimistic supporter of Bangladesh

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Old May 27, 2017, 02:21 PM
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Big hitters doesn't grow on trees. We need to identity and groom them. From the current setup, Mehedi Maruf and Saifuddin seems to be power hitters.
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Old May 27, 2017, 02:23 PM
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Big hitters doesn't grow on trees. We need to identity and groom them. From the current setup, Mehedi Maruf and Saifuddin seems to be power hitters.
No it doesnt. We groomed one and decided to play him at 3 where he avges 20
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Old May 27, 2017, 02:24 PM
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Big hitters doesn't grow on trees. We need to identity and groom them. From the current setup, Mehedi Maruf and Saifuddin seems to be power hitters.
Sabbir?

Liton too seem to be clearing boundary with ease in domestics. Let's rope him in. Even Sohag Gqzi ain't half bad

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Old May 27, 2017, 03:12 PM
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^ gazi is atrocious. Need to see more of litton. Nurul/Nasir aren't that powerful either. We just don't have any specialist big hitters and we will be in trouble if we don't address this soon.

We don't need someone of a class like Dhoni. Even Moeen Ali or Gunaratne type player would be good down the order
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Old May 27, 2017, 04:10 PM
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Sabbir Rahman. End of talk.

Mushy/Kayes at three. Sabbir 6-7!
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Old May 27, 2017, 04:23 PM
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Sabbir Rahman. End of talk.

Mushy/Kayes at three. Sabbir 6-7!
The geniuses have turned Sabbir into a no. 3

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Old May 27, 2017, 05:40 PM
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The geniuses have turned Sabbir into a no. 3

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If moeen ali can bat at 7, sabbir can ****ing do the same.
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Old May 27, 2017, 06:00 PM
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A really good finisher needs very similar skills to a no.3.

Mosa and riyad didn't do badly last match, they just got out, their strike rates were fine.

6 hitting isn't the be all and end all of finishing, mosa played an innings against Sri Lanka batting at 6, 24* strike rate 266.66, he only hit one 6 but that's irrelevant if you can still go at 266. Need to stop thinking that 6 hitting is the most important thing. The most important thing is scoring fast, doesn't matter how you do it.

Finishing isn't just about 6 hitting, there is more to it than that.

Look at the strike rates of moeen and Buttler last match, moeen was at 173 (same as mosa), Buttler was at 122 (riyad was 120). Also neither of them hit a 6. And actually there were only 4 6s hit in the England innings, BD hit 8.
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we scored 342.... i dunno what else are we expecting. Todays game is all about attacking cricket from ball 1. There shouldnt be any batsmen whether its top order, middle order or lower order that should be batting at anything less then a SR of 80+ in any given situation. In most cases any batsmen should be batting at a SR of 100 throughout.

We have good batting depth, our batsmen up the order should look to score faster and take calculated risks.
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Old May 27, 2017, 09:57 PM
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Mosaddek and Mahmudullah are pretty good batsmen with finishing skills. One of them need to play till the end or ideally both in all matches. In the middle order Mushfiq or Sakib will need to bat deep as well. Miraz also has potential as a lower order bat but he may not fit into the XI in england because his bowling probably isn't what the management want. And Mashrafe is a hit and miss batter as are most lower order sloggers.
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e coach and captain had trust in me that I could do the job" : Fahim Ashraf

Fahim Ashraf speaking to the media after the Bangladesh v Pakistan warm-up game

"The Coach and Captain had trust in me that I could do the job"

"Once I went in, I assessed the situation and saw that one boundary was very short my belief was strengthened that we could do it"

"I hope I can play against India. The Match against India is a big one but there isn't much pressure as we will play the game like any other game"

"I see myself as a bowling all-rounder"

"I have played a few innings like these in First-Class cricket but this was the first time I have played that in a One-Day game"

"We were aiming for the shorter boundary but they were bowling away from there so we had no choice but to play straighter as we had belief in ourselves"

"The pressure of playing towards a long boundary was not an issue"

"It is my hope and belief that I can repeat such a performance again"

"I may not have played in PSL but played in domestic and Pakistan A and I have belief in the Almighty that He would help me go forward in my career"

"Lot of people had negative things to say about me but after this performance all that will stop"

"There is no pressure but happiness that I will be making a debut against India and I will try my best to perform like that against India as well"

"We were concerned about the size of the boundary but once we went into the field, the captain and Shoaib Malik gave us confidence in our abilities and it really did not feel as if the boundary from one side of the ground was short"

"Their bowlers got pressure once they were hit for a few and that is why we were able to win.

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Old May 28, 2017, 12:10 AM
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Mosaddek and Mahmudullah are pretty good batsmen with finishing skills. One of them need to play till the end or ideally both in all matches. In the middle order Mushfiq or Sakib will need to bat deep as well. Miraz also has potential as a lower order bat but he may not fit into the XI in england because his bowling probably isn't what the management want. And Mashrafe is a hit and miss batter as are most lower order sloggers.
The thing about our middle order is non of them are really batsman with good batswing.

You see the best finishers really muscle the ball hard at the death and our boys don't.

Riad Shakib Mosaddek scored 0 sixes yesterday. That's a massive failure given one side of the ground is what, 40m!

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Old May 28, 2017, 07:43 PM
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It's not all about 6s, even the mighty ms dhoni has 204 sixes from 249 innings meaning he doesn't even hit one 6 every innings and he's one of the greatest finishers of all time.

It's about scoring lots if runs fast, not necessarily muscling it over the boundary.

Really don't get it, I've given stats from the last England match comparing them to the last BD match and you can see BD strike rates were fine and so was the 6/boundary hitting.

If BD doesn't score enough off the last 10, it's because the batsmen get out and don't stay in long enough to push the total up.

Of course if it's left to the bowlers/tail the team won't score as much as it could, that'd be the case with any team.

Mike Hussey another great finisher 80 6s in 157 innings.

More to this era is David miller, solid finisher averaging nearly 40 strike rate over 100, has hit 67 sixes in 85 innings.

So as you can see it's not all about muscling the ball, good finishers are very skilled and they've got to play very positive cricket much like current no.3s. They don't just hit 6s.
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What the Aussies finishers of their golden era did great was run hard and convert singles to twos.

The problem Gowza, we dont have late order batsmen that can muscle the ball over the fence nor can they get find the gaps for those consistent twos.
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I don't understand this. Suddenly one player one day plays gem of an innings against Bangladesh and all supporters think we need one of those? What's about NZ who couldn't score in the death overs in the final against Bangladesh? See this is a kind of hit-or-miss situation. Mosaddek, Mushy and Mamadola are good enough ... even though they all could fail on a certain day.
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Mosaddek, Mushy and Mamadola are good enough ... even though they all could fail on a certain day.
Mushy and Riyad are batting at 3-5, theyre not late order batsmen.

And mossadek Strike rate is just not cutting it.
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I don't understand this. Suddenly one player one day plays gem of an innings against Bangladesh and all supporters think we need one of those? What's about NZ who couldn't score in the death overs in the final against Bangladesh? See this is a kind of hit-or-miss situation. Mosaddek, Mushy and Mamadola are good enough ... even though they all could fail on a certain day.
Honestly, I feel like Mushy and Mahmodola is good for the position they bat in, but I have questions about Mosaddek and Miraz. Eventhough they should be the ones batting in this position for this CT (no replacement available with the team now). Maybe a change in mindset is needed as well for big hitting.
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Mushy and Riyad are batting at 3-5, theyre not late order batsmen.

And mossadek Strike rate is just not cutting it.
Riyad's been batting at 6/7 lately. Mosa strike rate last match was 170+
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Riyad's been batting at 6/7 lately. Mosa strike rate last match was 170+
Yes, Mosaddek was fine. The problem was that he got no support from the other end which was Miraz. Both batsmen needed to be fluent to take the pressure to the bowlers, but Miraz failed spectacularly.
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I don't understand this. Suddenly one player one day plays gem of an innings against Bangladesh and all supporters think we need one of those? What's about NZ who couldn't score in the death overs in the final against Bangladesh? See this is a kind of hit-or-miss situation. Mosaddek, Mushy and Mamadola are good enough ... even though they all could fail on a certain day.
But are the specialized in finishing the game for us? I think not.

Against NZ last match, Riad was exceptional in finding the gaps. Mushy was playing some cute shots here and there. But the target wasn't something spectacular.

However, in the 1st match against NZ, our batsman struggled not only to hit sixes but find the gaps. We bat well once or twice in the death but on most occassions we fail.
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