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Old June 15, 2017, 01:14 PM
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Default Road to World Cup 2019

Ok so let this loss sink in for a moment. Whats gone is gone. Let us look forward to the future. I am making this thread so that we can keep track what has happened since the CT 2017 and how much we improved going towards WC 2019 which is our goal now. I don't mind sacrificing few bilateral series in hope of building a solid team for the WC and experimenting with few keeping the core same.

So who are our core players? Lets be realistic please.

1. Tamim
2. Shakib
3. Mushfiq
4. Mahmudullah
5. Mashrafe

I am keeping Mashrafe in the mix because bar injury its pretty much certain that he will play the WC. You may have different opinion on Mahmudullah but lets face it. He is still one of the best bats we got. So we have 5 players as of now to build around.

Who are the fringe ones who may or may not make it?

1. Soumya
2. Shabbir
3. Mosaddek
4. Taskin
5. Fizz
6. Rubel
7. Mehedi

I am keeping Fizz in the fringe because his performance is below par as of now. He has to work his way up to be certain in next two years. Others have to improve massively.

Who are the others in contention?

1. Nasir
2. Imrul
3. Nazmul
4. Mominul
5. Saifuddin
6. Shafiul
7. Al Amin
8. Nurul
9. Liton
10. Anamul

I am just randomly throwing out names now who can work up their way and have a genuine case. Out of them I believe Saifuddin and Nazmul will go up to 2nd tier soon. Keep throwing out names with good reasons.

So what are your thoughts?
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Old June 15, 2017, 01:26 PM
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2015 WC QF
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Old June 15, 2017, 01:30 PM
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I think nasir will be back in the ODI team. I dont think miraz bowls well in ODI

Mortaza will be retired by then, needs to be replaced by a pacer who can bat.

I want to see ziaur rahman back, if he performs in domestic
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Old June 15, 2017, 01:44 PM
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First we need to solve the number 3 problem. Look at all the teams. Kohli, Root, Williamson, Smith, Babar, Mendis. These guys play at number 3. Who we have got? Its clear that Shabbir is not number 3 material. Its the most important position in the batting line up. I believe we should really groom someone for the spot and give him a long run.
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Old June 15, 2017, 02:13 PM
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Play anamul liton or shanto at 3. Its time you put proper top order batsman at no. 3

Imrul Sabbir won't cut it
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Old June 15, 2017, 03:36 PM
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Roman bhai the 2019 WC will be 10 team in the same group with each playing 9 games. the top 4 will play the semi.

we'll probably be out in the group stages. the format demands 4-5 wins against top teams. one or two wins here and there wont take us to the semi
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Old June 15, 2017, 04:43 PM
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We will be lucky to get to semis. We need a few reliable world class batsman and a good bowling attack. Our bowling has gone down the drain lately with Walsh

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Old June 15, 2017, 04:59 PM
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Roman bhai the 2019 WC will be 10 team in the same group with each playing 9 games. the top 4 will play the semi.

we'll probably be out in the group stages. the format demands 4-5 wins against top teams. one or two wins here and there wont take us to the semi
I know about the world cup structure bro. And I believe in 2 years we will become a formidable side In sha Allah. With Tamim, Riyad Mushy having enough experience under their belts, we can become a tough opponent to beat.

We just need to find a pace bowling alrounder and a genuine fast bowler. Future looks bright
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Old June 15, 2017, 05:03 PM
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Need changes. Get Kumar Sangakarra or Mahela Jayawardena in the team, as batting coach. Get rid of Samawerra and Walsh thanks. Need Heath back.

Sarkar, Sabbir, Kayes, Mossa. Not good enough. Players: Nasir, Liton, Anamul, Ziaur Rahman, Abul Hasan, Mehedi Maruf (for t20s if does well then ODI), Abu Hider, Al Amin, Nafeez. These lot need another set chances.

I get the feeling if Abul Hasan, Subasish Roy or Ziaur Rahman all three whom have big heavy shoulders, if they bowled on these bouncy wicket, would've done well.
If you look at their seam positioning it suits these conditions. Akib Javed himself was impressed by Abuls bowling, shows something our geniuses not figured out yet about Abul. Ziaur, also bowls a heavy ball, banging it into the deck, wicket to wicket could've been much more effective than fizz and Rubel. Subasish has nice seam, is a swing with the new ball type of bowler.

BD has to many old ball bowlers atm (Fizz, Rubel, even Taskin not used or groomed well enough for the new ball), need to get Abul Hasan, Shuvasish Roy into the side for the new ball, both will do a better job with the new ball than the 3 older ball bowlers we have atm.

We can't just forget some players based on one or two bad performances on dead, slow low mirpur tracks!! Some players are much better suited to some conditions and some of the names I've mentioned there are the right tools to be used abroad in Eng,Aus,NZ,SA conditions!

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Old June 15, 2017, 05:11 PM
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^ Mahela is all set to join our HP squad. Things looking promising already. And if we somehow can manage Sanga and Streak/Vaas, we will be in good hands
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Old June 15, 2017, 05:44 PM
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Default The team moving forward? (WC19)

CT was a big tournament for Bangladesh cricket, the semi-final loss was heartbreaking but let's not forget it was a new step for BD cricket, this team, the team so many of us tearing apart are what got the team to the semi-final. With that said what should be the team moving forward?

As far as batting tamim, mushy, riyad and shakib are safe so there are 3 questionable spots of which are soumya, sabbir and mosaddek.

As far as bowling I think aside from giving some more experience to saifuddin, hider rony and maybe even Jubair there isn't much we should change I think taskin, fizz, Rubel and mehedi are the best we have to offer.

Question is do we stick with the CT team that made it to the semis or should changes be made? And if changes are to be made what changes should they be?
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Old June 15, 2017, 05:47 PM
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^^ and that is a good sign.

Developing the players on the fringe. Build their technique, critical thinking when they have bat in hand. Play ball on merit, rather than gut.

More A-team tours...look at the way Mosaddek lost his wicket against Bumrah, the short ball cramped him. And Mossaddek is a top class first class batsman.

The system needs an overhaul. I do hope Jayawardene adds his vast experience to good avail.
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Old June 15, 2017, 06:29 PM
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What's our tours looking like? We need to play more away games because WC19 is taking place in England again.
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Old June 15, 2017, 06:41 PM
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I believe we have a tour in South Africa in September. Don't know what else we have this year.
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Old June 15, 2017, 06:56 PM
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I largely agree with you. I feel that number three needs to be settled, whether that is mushy, or a new batsmen such as Liton, it cant be sabbir, who I feel is best suited at six. The batting order needs change, riyad needs to come up at four.

I feel we need to prepare a replacement for mortaza eventually, a pace all rounder who can bat a bit.

The bowlers I feel are as good as we have, they just need a bit of coaching and improve fitness regime.
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Old June 15, 2017, 07:34 PM
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Which means we will lose final going by the pattern
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Old June 15, 2017, 08:07 PM
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2015 WC QF
2017 CT Semi
2019 WC Final


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2015 WC QF vs India = Lost
2017 CT Semi vs India = Lost

Going by that

2019 WC Final vs India =
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Old June 15, 2017, 08:16 PM
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Wouldn't hurt to groom another lower or bat for the last 10 overs not sure other than sabbir and nasir who there currently is, maybe groom saifuddin or I'm still keeping an eye on afif as he may be ready in a couple of years.

Not sure who else there is for lower order.

Definitely think shanto and liton need to be tested as well as hider and saifuddin.

Either way soumya and sabbir are too talented to be forgotten, coaches need to work hard on them.
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Old June 15, 2017, 08:37 PM
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2015 WC QF vs India = Lost
2017 CT Semi vs India = Lost

Going by that

2019 WC Final vs India =
I would not be able to handle another elimination by India lol
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Old June 15, 2017, 09:36 PM
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Core players are not the problem and have performed well in this tournament. I am worried about our young players and their ever diminishing returns. I know away tours can be tough and i hope that is what it is but still Soumya disappointed me extremely. What was that shot he played so full of nerves? What is he so worried about? it is not like we reached the semis on the back of his performances!

At least Shabbir tried to fight back and had the courage even though it looked amateurish against a Test bowler. What Shabbir needs is a really good batting coach like Siddons. Mosaddek did not impress either but he is still young. I will give him some time. I really liked Shanto's approach last tour. He looks like an innings builder but needs more technical improvements
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we need to start going with this lineup from now on and be patient:

Tamim
Soumya
Mushfiq
Shakib
Mahmudullah
Shabbir
Saifuddin
Mortaza
Rubel/Mehedi
Taskin
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Old June 15, 2017, 10:25 PM
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Come up with a good number 3 batsman technically correct. This is a MUST if we want to success. Plus groom a fast bowling all rounder this can be saifuddin.
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Old June 15, 2017, 10:26 PM
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Plus find an effective wrist spinner.
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Old June 15, 2017, 10:40 PM
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I really think the team management needs to consider Anamul, Mominul, Liton, Shahriar Nafees.

Not saying any of the current lot need to be ditched. But we need to keep options.
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There is an Asia Cup before the World cup, we should prepare for that. Oh ya and it going to be in India.
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