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View Poll Results: Pick your top 5 seamers for next 2 years of Test
Md. Saifuddin (20) 5 27.78%
Abu Haider Rony (21) 6 33.33%
Mustafizur Rahman (22) 17 94.44%
Taskin Ahmed (22) 15 83.33%
Ebadat Hossain (23) 8 44.44%
Abul Hasan (25) 4 22.22%
Kamrul Islam Rabbi (25) 3 16.67%
Al Amin Hossain (27) 2 11.11%
Muktar Ali (27) 1 5.56%
Rubel Hossain (27) 4 22.22%
Shafiul Islam (27) 2 11.11%
Md. Shahid (28) 11 61.11%
Subhasish Roy (28) 11 61.11%
Others (please specify) 1 5.56%
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Old September 8, 2017, 01:35 PM
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Lightbulb Shortlist Test Seamers

I think BAN should shortlist the Test seamers. If we have a pool of 5-6 pacers that are groomed for the longer version, we won't have to pick our 2nd, 3rd seamer randomly after every test.

So, what's your pick? Choose the best 5 for next 2 years. The list is in ascending order of player's current age (in braces).
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Abu Jayed Rahi
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Roy.......
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No ABJ Rahi
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Tried b4 useless
He wasn't even given a international match, his FC stats are pretty good.
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He wasn't even given a international match, his FC stats are pretty good.
He tried in warm game locally n overseas ..smashed big time
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He tried in warm game locally n overseas ..smashed big time
Do you remember the match. As far as I know he is pretty effective bowler.
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Ali Ahmed Manik and Ebadat Hossain look like pretty exciting prospects.
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Do you remember the match. As far as I know he is pretty effective bowler.
He toured in india...was ineffective! Check cricinfo for further research.. def not a test material!
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Tried b4 useless
flat pitch in India proves nothing.
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Personally I'd have

Tier 1

Mustafizur, Roy, Shahid, taskin

Tier 2

Al Amin, Abu Hider, Saifuddin, rabbi
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at current the ones being groomed should be fizz, taskin, saifuddin and hider. Maybe ebadat or rabbi should be the next or another up and coming pacer. That doesn't mean they should all be playing tests now.

Guys like Roy, shahid, shafiul, rubel, al amin who are in their late 20s, I wouldn't group them in the same category, they should be ready now if they're going to offer much in test cricket.
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at current the ones being groomed should be fizz, taskin, saifuddin and hider. Maybe ebadat or rabbi should be the next or another up and coming pacer. That doesn't mean they should all be playing tests now.

Guys like Roy, shahid, shafiul, rubel, al amin who are in their late 20s, I wouldn't group them in the same category, they should be ready now if they're going to offer much in test cricket.
Roy and Al Amin are only 2 years older than Rabbi. I like Al Amin, but not for Tests and he also discipline issues so he's out.

But a guy like Roy is a work horse. I see Roy as a stop gap until the next batch is ready. He's good enough to contribute now but obviously won't improve anymore. But what he can give to the team is good enough to be our second or third option.
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Roy and Al Amin are only 2 years older than Rabbi. I like Al Amin, but not for Tests and he also discipline issues so he's out.

But a guy like Roy is a work horse. I see Roy as a stop gap until the next batch is ready. He's good enough to contribute now but obviously won't improve anymore. But what he can give to the team is good enough to be our second or third option.
Why not pick rabbi over Roy? At 25 rabbi has more chance of improving than Roy being 28 and I don't see much difference in output. I agree about al amin, I don't see him as a viable test option, at this point.

For me averaging in the mid to late 50s isn't good enough to contribute right now, they'll have to fix that...but if I had to i'd pick the younger rabbi.

Btw I appreciate your contribution to this forum, your responses are always respectful to others.
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Why not pick rabbi over Roy? At 25 rabbi has more chance of improving than Roy being 28 and I don't see much difference in output. I agree about al amin, I don't see him as a viable test option, at this point.
Because Roy is better than Rabbi.

If the only justification for Rabbi over Roy is that he's 3 years younger, than thats not a very good reason. At 25, Rabbi's his growth potential has already diminished alot. Players don't drastically improve when they are 25.
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Because Roy is better than Rabbi.

If the only justification for Rabbi over Roy is that he's 3 years younger, than thats not a very good reason. At 25, Rabbi's his growth potential has already diminished alot. Players don't drastically improve when they are 25.
But Roy isn't better than rabbi, they're pretty much the same. And at 25 a player can still improve a lot, at 28 not so much...
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But Roy isn't better than rabbi, they're pretty much the same. And at 25 a player can still improve a lot, at 28 not so much...
Bowling averages Roy
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
3 6 575 347 6 2/53 3/121 57.83 3.62 95.8 0 0 0

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Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
5 8 558 398 7 3/87 3/99 56.85 4.27 79.7 0 0 0

Similar numbers, but Roy has slightly better Econ and only 1 less wicket despite playing 2 fewer innings. I can assure you, you won't get better numbers from Rabbi at age 28. The human body does not work that way.
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Bowling averages Roy
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
3 6 575 347 6 2/53 3/121 57.83 3.62 95.8 0 0 0

Bowling averages Rabbi
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
5 8 558 398 7 3/87 3/99 56.85 4.27 79.7 0 0 0

Similar numbers, but Roy has slightly better Econ and only 1 less wicket despite playing 2 fewer innings. I can assure you, you won't get better numbers from Rabbi at age 28. The human body does not work that way.
I'm not talking about the human body, rabbi has more time to hone his skills, he has a better strike rate, bowls decent line, gets reverse. I just see more upside to rabbi.

If you want a corridor bowler who doesn't give anything away then fizz and rony are probably the two best in the country atm at that particular type of bowling.
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when tried?

he was doing well in last domestic league
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what happened to robiul islam shiplu and sajedul islam

i think mohammed shahid will be back in test squad. he is a good and hard working bowler

i think abu zayed rahi should get a chance
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what happened to robiul islam shiplu and sajedul islam

i think mohammed shahid will be back in test squad. he is a good and hard working bowler

i think abu zayed rahi should get a chance
Robiul keeps getting injured doesn't he? Same with shahid, both have been out for a very long time.
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Subhashis Roy is way better than Taskin in tests, better control and gets wickets too Taskin has none.
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Issue in tests is you have no choice to take wickets if you want to win so you need wicket taking bowlers. It's the coaches job to take a bowler like taskin and teach him to sustain or improve his wicket taking ability but also improve his economy rate, line and length consistency etc.

Atm BD are in position where there aren't many wicket taking pacers at the test level.
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