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Old December 6, 2017, 05:53 PM
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It's not all Pybus fault. Here.

https://www.dawn.com/news/759280/pyb...ngladesh-coach
He was employed by PCB three different occasions, he left them prematurely every time. With this sort of recurring behavior, it's safe to say it was mostly his fault, not BCB's.
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He was employed by PCB three different occasions, he left them prematurely every time. With this sort of recurring behavior, it's safe to say it was mostly his fault, not BCB's.
Ok. This is worrying

Pybus & Papon dui bhia combo? Hmm..
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Old December 6, 2017, 06:01 PM
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Being a strict coach doesnt necessarily mean get rid of senior players or create a hostile dressing room. It could also mean that he will make sure no single player (doesnt matter how big of a player he is) take his spot in the team for granted, players will give their 100% in nets, in the dressing room and in field.

It will be tough to control few player's if we have someone like Jurgen. We need someone who is strict as well as good tactician. Pybus checks both boxes.

But worried about his employment history. That certainly does not look good. Just hope he doesnt quit right before world cup. That would be a disaster
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Old December 6, 2017, 06:14 PM
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So is he gonna be in BD most of the time as coach or just stick around during a series like he would have last time and what Hathuri did
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Old December 6, 2017, 06:18 PM
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^^ This is what he said after quitting last time -
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"I said I could prepare the team in camps, tour with them and be there for all series, but I needed to get home between tours for my family. If they were happy with that, then I could do the job for them. That was when they agreed that I would be able to go home between tours. Their agreement was never made explicit in the contract they presented to me in Dhaka so I refused to sign it. That is the heart of the matter."

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I am assuming he returned with same demands this time as well.
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Old December 6, 2017, 06:20 PM
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^He will be haturu 2.0 then
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Old December 6, 2017, 06:29 PM
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As per Kaler Kantho, Pybus said his son was young last time, thus he needed to go home frequently. But now, after five years, the need is not so great.

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সেই সঙ্গে তুলে ধরেছেন বর্তমান অবস্থান থেকে বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেটকে আরো সামনে নিয়ে যাওয়ার পরিকল্পনাও। ১৭ মাস পর ওয়ানডে বিশ্বকাপ। আপাতত তাই এটিও বিসিবির অগ্রাধিকার তালিকার শীর্ষে। বাংলাদেশকে বিশ্বকাপ সেমিফাইনালে নিয়ে যাওয়ার লক্ষ্যের কথা পাইবাসও বলেছেন। কোচ হিসেবে সেই লক্ষ্যে পৌঁছে দিতে তিনি কতটা সক্ষম হবেন, তাঁকে করা হয়েছিল সে প্রশ্নও। তাঁর সঙ্গে আলোচনায় উপস্থিত বিসিবি পরিচালকদের একজনই শুনিয়েছেন পাইবাসের জবাবটি, ‘আমি ফল দিতে না পারলে আপনারা আমাকে কেন রাখবেন?’

দীর্ঘ মেয়াদে থাকার জন্য পাইবাস বাংলাদেশকে ওয়ানডে র‌্যাংকিংয়ের সাত থেকে পাঁচ আর টেস্টে নয় থেকে সাতে তুলে আনার লক্ষ্যও নিজের জন্য নির্ধারণ করেছেন বলে খবর। কয়েকজন পেসারের নাম ধরে ধরে যে আলোচনা করেছেন, তাতে বিসিবিও নিশ্চিত যে বাংলাদেশের ক্রিকেট বিষয়ে তাঁর ধারণা বেশ স্বচ্ছ। পাশাপাশি তরুণ প্রতিভা তুলে আনার ক্ষেত্রে পাইবাস ‘রিজিওনাল সেন্টার অব এক্সিলেন্স’ প্রতিষ্ঠার প্রয়োজনীয়তার কথাও বলেছেন। তাঁর সঙ্গে দুই ঘণ্টার আলোচনার পর বিসিবির অন্দরমহলের হাবভাব যা, তাতে মনে হতেই পারে যে হাতুরাসিংহের উত্তরসূরি হওয়ার দৌড়ে এগিয়ে আছেন পাইবাসই।


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Old December 6, 2017, 07:14 PM
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It's not only BCB and PCB, he has a pretty bad track record with other teams as well:
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He coached Border in South Africa before being poached by Pakistan ahead of their 1999 World Cup campaign. But a change of leadership meant he lost his job - he had described the interim chairman, at the time the side's manager, as a "bumbling old idiot" who he had had to treat for old age. He returned to Border but took charge of Pakistan for a second time until after the 2003 World Cup and from 2005 to the end of the 2006-07 season he was with the Titans. He was appointed coach of Middlesex in February 2007 but five months later quit citing personal reasons.

Pybus rejoined the Titans shortly after leaving Middlesex, before stepping down as coach in July 2009. During his tenure, he had overseen his team's success in the MTN Domestic Championship over two seasons and was named the CSA (Cricket South Africa) Coach of the Year. He went on to have a successful two-year spell at Cape Cobras, winning three titles, before resigning in March 2012 due to differences with the franchise management. In May 2012, Pybus was named coach of Bangladesh, taking over from Stuart Law, but that was a short stint, as he resigned in October that year following disagreement over the terms of his contract.

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With this sort of records, I would not even bother to interview him, let alone entertain his 10 years plan
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Old December 6, 2017, 07:25 PM
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^^very worrying. BCB has the money to do better than this guy
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I think BCB should pay more attention to Marsh and Simmons.

But media speculating Pybus is front runner.

Also some rumour about Justin Langer. Not sure if true, but Langer would be the best candidate if he is interested.
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His record is indeed alarming. Too bad coaches like Mahela, Moody, Flower are not interested. So our options are very lomited.
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Old December 6, 2017, 07:39 PM
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Pybus had impressed WICB too with similar grand plans. But in reality, it did not work out. He was accused of not understanding West Indies culture, and trying to implement his out of touch strategies which failed miserably. His last job was a rare occasion he was let go by his employer (replaced by Jimmy Adams, much better liked by everyone), as opposed to him quitting in a rage.

Throwing West Indies cricket under ‘Pybus’

TONY COZIER: Cameron and Pybus need to answer for West Indies' on-field problems
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This is like a guy getting back with his ex. It's going to be nasty and gritty. Anything could happen.
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Do you believe in 2nd chances?
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Do you believe in 2nd chances?
In this guys case. No?

He has too much history with BCB, lets just start fresh with a new coach.
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Oh well, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
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Oh well, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Are you advocating for him? I would sure like to hear your take, since Pybus was a major part of Windies cricket for 3 years.

Who would you pick between him and Simmons?
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Are you advocating for him? I would sure like to hear your take, since Pybus was a major part of Windies cricket for 3 years.

Who would you pick between him and Simmons?


Definitely Simmons; heard he was doing commentary on domestic first class games.

It was actually Philo Wallace I was thinking about. Another hard hitting Windies batsman
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Definitely Simmons; heard he was doing commentary on domestic first class games.
Is he another nice guy like Courtney Walsh? Senior players want him. That's a warning sign.

Which level of coaching experience he have?
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Which level of coaching experience he have?
I guess you don't follow cricket outside anything involving Bangladesh? He was the West Indies coach not so long ago.
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Is he another nice guy like Courtney Walsh? Senior players want him. That's a warning sign.

Which level of coaching experience he have?
Coach of Ireland when Ireland actually had a good team. He was our coach when we won the T20 world cup last year.

Also, he was the batting coach of Afghanistan.

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During that time, Ireland won 11 trophies, qualified for every major ICC event, and achieved victories over Pakistan and Bangladesh at the 2007 World Cup, England at the 2011 World Cup and the West Indies and Zimbabwe at the 2015 World Cup.
He knows about player development. I don't know how he might manage the seniors in BD squad if he ever had the opportunity.
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I guess you don't follow cricket outside anything involving Bangladesh? He was the West Indies coach not so long ago.
You are partially correct. I don't have time to follow all the teams unless it becomes interesting series. And definitely care less about coaches of other teams. Definately don't know who coaches what teams.

There are so many sports in this world (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, college Football, College Basketball, etc, ) and so little time to follow... you know.

So what happened to him? Was he sacked or resigned? What is his performance? What is his strength and weakness?
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Fan's expectation is: we (BCB) have money, why cant we get the best coach.

Yes BCB has money, but that doesn't mean, all the good coaches will lining up for the job. This is not the most desirable job for good and high profile coaches.

The reality is we will end up picking a coach who is either unproven or has some faults but still has some high ceiling.

If we are lucky it will work out, but there is no guarantee that the next coach will be better than the past. And o yah... our old coach was part of the problem that we faced in SA, not the root cause of all the problems that we faced in SA. There were other major culprits for the failure.
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Coach of Ireland when Ireland actually had a good team. He was our coach when we won the T20 world cup last year.

Also, he was the batting coach of Afghanistan.



He knows about player development. I don't know how he might manage the seniors in BD squad if he ever had the opportunity.
May be he will be better suited for our U19 team than managing our national team.
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So now BCB have three finalist Pybus, Simmons, Marsh to choose from.

It reminds me of deshi "sloke":

BCB-er tin pola,
Ekta Bhut
Arekta Audbhut
Jaita Bhala
Baapere koi Shala.



Good luck with the selection.
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