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Old December 24, 2017, 10:28 PM
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I think we should be able to beat them.

But very often hubris gets in our way. Overconfidence, thinking Sri Lanka is a weak side could backfire.

This will be a huge test for Khaled Mahmud to keep the players focused, prepared. I know Shakib, Mash, Mushfiq had said we are ok to play without a coach. But Chacha has a role to play

And very often when a coach who has had issues with dressing room, tension/conflict-leaves, the team rebounds with their newfound freedom. I am hoping for that!
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Old December 25, 2017, 01:11 AM
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That's not the point.
Eclipse, I'm afraid locating the point of a pinhead would require an intellect one or two magnitudes greater than the one you display through your posting record. If its an act, kudos you've got everyone fooled. If not...
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** pee-chow**

Gunslingaaaa

And he has Malinga in his team now
Malinga, who?
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And very often when a coach who has had issues with dressing room, tension/conflict-leaves, the team rebounds with their newfound freedom. I am hoping for that!
I already feel sad for Haturu...now being opponent...he might get a taste of Mash and Shak ...!
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Old December 29, 2017, 09:29 PM
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Another shot fired...

Papon Bhari chalu public.... ekotha ta bollen Hatu.

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Old January 1, 2018, 12:35 PM
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^^ Papon is a chalu public- he is now claiming media twisted what he said, not that he twisted what Hathu said.

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Old January 1, 2018, 06:57 PM
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Eclipse, I'm afraid locating the point of a pinhead would require an intellect one or two magnitudes greater than the one you display through your posting record. If its an act, kudos you've got everyone fooled. If not...
Savage AF, dude..
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Old January 6, 2018, 02:08 PM
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Shots fired - Shakib! It has been a sore point between Shak and Hathu that Hathu pushed him down the batting order. Now Shak wants to stick it to Hathu by promoting himself in the batting order

http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/b...shakib-1515931
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Old January 6, 2018, 02:11 PM
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^^ too much flipping drama
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Old January 6, 2018, 02:21 PM
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^^ Pak, SL, WI are our closest rivals now. We (ie our players) know their players and coaches well. So expect lot of dramas in series involving each of those teams
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I’m having a feelings, sakib will play life of his innings in this series , he was against haturi from day one , now as a opponent between this two... sakib might put his self at allout situation... well whatever helps Bd to bring glory....
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Old January 6, 2018, 03:36 PM
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Savage AF, dude..
I just say it how it is.
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Old January 6, 2018, 03:37 PM
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Shots fired - Shakib! It has been a sore point between Shak and Hathu that Hathu pushed him down the batting order. Now Shak wants to stick it to Hathu by promoting himself in the batting order

http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/b...shakib-1515931
Shakib at 3 is a much better prospect for several reasons:

1) if he gets out cheaply he won't waste many balls plus we have Mushy, Riyad plus Tamim to build an innings

2) if he gets stuck, he will score big runs

3) allows Sabbir to play his natural role down the order. whoever (Hathu??) thought Sabbir was a top order batsman made the dumbest mistake in a while.

But why the F does Imrul keep getting picked?
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Old January 6, 2018, 05:33 PM
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Shakib at 3 is a much better prospect for several reasons:

1) if he gets out cheaply he won't waste many balls plus we have Mushy, Riyad plus Tamim to build an innings

2) if he gets stuck, he will score big runs

3) allows Sabbir to play his natural role down the order. whoever (Hathu??) thought Sabbir was a top order batsman made the dumbest mistake in a while.

But why the F does Imrul keep getting picked?
Batting at 3 is too much to ask from him, can't see him doing well there
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Old January 6, 2018, 05:50 PM
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This series will be critical for him to save his IPL career, as the IPL auction is on Jan 27-28. So, at least, expect him to put his best effort.
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Old January 6, 2018, 05:53 PM
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This series will be critical for him to save his IPL career, as the IPL auction is on Jan 27-28. So, at least, expect him to put his best effort.
I think his going crazy over the IPL deal.
It feels like he will do whatever it takes to get a IPL contract.

Promoting himself to no.3? What next?
If it clicks, he will do well.. if it doesn’t heavy criticism awaits.
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Old January 6, 2018, 06:23 PM
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I think he is betting on his T20I stats at one-down. He is a way better batsman than Imrul or Sabbir, so I think this trial is totally worth it.

Conventional wisdom also says one of the best batsmen of the team should be at one-down. Hathu went against that wisdom, and could not work it out. Don't see why Sujon or Shakib should be criticized in their attempt to rectify that mistake.
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Old January 6, 2018, 07:50 PM
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Yeah never liked shakib at 3 but if it happens hope he can make it work.
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Old January 6, 2018, 08:37 PM
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Ideally, Momin should have been persisted with as our ODI #3. Hathuru created quite a bit of instability with our batting order by keep moving around other batsmen when he got rid off Momin.

Here is batting stats for #3 in last five years: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

As you can see, every other option Hathu tried (Sabbir, Liton, Riyad, Imrul) except few matches Soumya played at #3, did worse than Momin. If Hathu tried to help Momin to improve, instead of keep trying to sabotage his career, most likely we would have a settled ODI batting order by now.
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Old January 6, 2018, 11:05 PM
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Now that Haturu is gone....

- Will Sakib take a little bit more responsibility as he will be batting #3?

- Will Mosadek get more chance? And will he be successful? If not, how long we will stick with him?

- Will Momin will get more chance in ODI and Test? And will he be successful? If not (in ODI), how long we will stick with him?

- How long BCB will give free pass to SS and Sabbir if they are still inconsistent?

-As he is getting old, Which Mashrafee, the bowler, will show up? The one in T20 or the one in 1st warm up match? And if things doesn't work out for a series or two, does the current management has the balls to make a bold decision?

- If Riyad again fails to produce, what BCB management will do? Stick with him longer or give him multiple series?

- if Mustafiz continue to be ineffective and expensive, what will the BCB management do with him? give him a rest and try Rony or Abul or continue to play him in all formats?

- What to do with Imrul? Is he a permanent piece of the team or a stop gap player?

We are competitive team, but we will not be able to win games with too many out-of-form players in the team.

Talk is cheap, and useless unless its followed by positive result. Good or bad, Haturu is not here any longer to take the heat any longer. Senior players need to take responsibility and set presence by example; senior player/manager need to make hard choices in the series for the teams over friendship, BCB need to make sure that right decisions are made about team selection, team strategy and player dedications.

If things work out fine, great. That's what I hope as a fan. But if things goes wrong, who will take tha blame and who will be the scapegoat.... unfortunately Haturu will not be there as our ideal scapegoat.

Good or bad, these are all hard choices and not very popular, and need some guts to make those choices. I am afraid the current make shift management doesn't have that guts.
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I'm not in favour of Shakib at 3 but statistically this guy is our best ever ODI batsman and knows how to rotate the strike

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Captain, # 1 bowling option, and batting #3? That's too much.
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Old January 6, 2018, 11:57 PM
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^^ Not the ODI captain yet. He is far from our best bowler against SL (their batting order is dominated by lefties, plus they know him well). Don't know about future plan, but I think he is doing the right thing by focusing on his batting this series.
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Ideally, Momin should have been persisted with as our ODI #3. Hathuru created quite a bit of instability with our batting order by keep moving around other batsmen when he got rid off Momin.

Here is batting stats for #3 in last five years: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

As you can see, every other option Hathu tried (Sabbir, Liton, Riyad, Imrul) except few matches Soumya played at #3, did worse than Momin. If Hathu tried to help Momin to improve, instead of keep trying to sabotage his career, most likely we would have a settled ODI batting order by now.
This i agree with. Mominul needs more confidence. his confidence was dented due to

1) Haturasinghe axing him from ODI

2) lack of test matches played -> less playing time -> lack of quality cricket -> loss of from
-> vicious cycle.

What I would do for someone of Mominul's batting calibre is give him another extended run in the Test XI for another 2-3 series...if he does well, gradually put him back in the ODI XI. his fielding gotta improve though. He needs to get back his confidence.
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Captain, # 1 bowling option, and batting #3? That's too much.
And coach lol
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