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Old February 5, 2018, 09:08 PM
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Lets try and avoid the craving for instant gratification and let guys like afif develop and mature a bit more before bringing them in. These kids have plenty of time left to play for Bangladesh.
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Old February 6, 2018, 02:32 AM
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instead of sabbir they could have picked tushar imran, junaed, anamul (good for longer version),naeem islam--these guys are in form or uncapped mahedi (who is a good offspinner too)

why picked tanbir haider/ sabbir/ rabbi/ sanjamul/naeem jr/ even razzaq in longer format?
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Old February 6, 2018, 02:33 AM
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our batting was ok in the first test but bowling was toothless
so picked batsman instead of bowler?

if sabbir is picked, i guess he will replace mosaddek, only spot. doesnt make sense
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Old February 6, 2018, 02:35 AM
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Lets try and avoid the craving for instant gratification and let guys like afif develop and mature a bit more before bringing them in. These kids have plenty of time left to play for Bangladesh.
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afif is extremely talented. he should be groomed like shakib.

i dont want early inclusion, fail in one or 2 match, then drop them rapidly and never bring them back. our selectors and fans hates discarded.
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Old February 6, 2018, 02:47 AM
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Default It's a good decision

I think it's a good decision. Anyway, our players should be given enough chance to prove themselves.
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Old February 6, 2018, 02:55 AM
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I think it is just a foxing move to include Sabbir, nothing else . I'm very much sure he will not make into the best eleven in Dhaka test.
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Old February 6, 2018, 03:05 AM
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rightfully dropped after only playing 1 game? Alright bro.
Yes because there is no space for him in the team
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Old February 6, 2018, 04:28 AM
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Lets try and avoid the craving for instant gratification and let guys like afif develop and mature a bit more before bringing them in. These kids have plenty of time left to play for Bangladesh.
The problem with BCB is that these players are tested out in the wrong format. For example, we could always test someone like Afif or Ariful in T20Is but we know we are going to persist with Mushy and Imrul again. Instead what BCB does is pick Nayeem Hasan in the freaking test squad.

I don't really think its important to let players develop and mature if they have already shown ability to perform in the big league. At the same time, I believe some players will not mature much from international cricket.

However, I believe that we need to groom some youngsters like Afif, Miraz, Shanto, Shadman, Zakir, Yasir Ali. Yasir can be a good lower order option, same goes to ariful. Afif as a middle order bat who will bowl a bit. There is no use going back to Imrul again and again.
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Old February 6, 2018, 04:45 AM
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afif is extremely talented. he should be groomed like shakib.

i dont want early inclusion, fail in one or 2 match, then drop them rapidly and never bring them back. our selectors and fans hates discarded.
Shakib wasn't groomed, he was playing international cricket at about the age afif is now. Afif does remind me a lot of shakib, can hit big and play some really good innings, but he doesn't have e greatest technique. He also seems to perform, especially with the bat, when the team really needs something, much like shakib. He's obviously got some bowling ability to, and like shakib his batting is seen as his main suit but in fact his bowling may end up being more than handy as he develops (that is obviously yet to be seen).
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Old February 6, 2018, 04:50 AM
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The problem with BCB is that these players are tested out in the wrong format. For example, we could always test someone like Afif or Ariful in T20Is but we know we are going to persist with Mushy and Imrul again. Instead what BCB does is pick Nayeem Hasan in the freaking test squad.

I don't really think its important to let players develop and mature if they have already shown ability to perform in the big league. At the same time, I believe some players will not mature much from international cricket.

However, I believe that we need to groom some youngsters like Afif, Miraz, Shanto, Shadman, Zakir, Yasir Ali. Yasir can be a good lower order option, same goes to ariful. Afif as a middle order bat who will bowl a bit. There is no use going back to Imrul again and again.
I think now is the right time to introduce some of these players, shanto has been taking it all in his stride, he needs to be at least around the national team if not getting some game time. Zakir is having a breakout year so it might be a good time to bring him into the system.

Shadman seems to of regressed a bit so keep him in domestics until he picks himself back up again. Afif is pretty young so if anything play him in t20s but nothing more at this point.

Haven't seen yasir so no idea about him. Miraz is heavily in the system already so no need to comment on him.

I do believe we need to tread carefully with talents and as always it's a player by player basis but I think sometimes it's better keeping a talent around the team even if they aren't performing, I do feel that anamul had a good start to his international career with a couple of centuries, sure he had issues but if he was persisted with and if he was around the national team over the period where he was dropped then he'd probably be a better player today than he is right now. Then again you just don't know because Sabbir has been persisted with and no real improvement, but anamul actually got some really good results when he started out so it's a different situation.
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Old February 6, 2018, 05:10 AM
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I think Shabbir in for Imrul in the opening.. Imrul is of no good with the field lately and also a walking wicket with bouncers.. shabbir will atleaast boost that sector.
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Old February 6, 2018, 06:06 AM
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I think Shabbir in for Imrul in the opening.. Imrul is of no good with the field lately and also a walking wicket with bouncers.. shabbir will atleaast boost that sector.
Lol, Shabbir opening. We will be 0-1 in the first over.
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Old February 6, 2018, 06:33 AM
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I think now is the right time to introduce some of these players, shanto has been taking it all in his stride, he needs to be at least around the national team if not getting some game time. Zakir is having a breakout year so it might be a good time to bring him into the system.

Shadman seems to of regressed a bit so keep him in domestics until he picks himself back up again. Afif is pretty young so if anything play him in t20s but nothing more at this point.

Haven't seen yasir so no idea about him. Miraz is heavily in the system already so no need to comment on him.

I do believe we need to tread carefully with talents and as always it's a player by player basis but I think sometimes it's better keeping a talent around the team even if they aren't performing, I do feel that anamul had a good start to his international career with a couple of centuries, sure he had issues but if he was persisted with and if he was around the national team over the period where he was dropped then he'd probably be a better player today than he is right now. Then again you just don't know because Sabbir has been persisted with and no real improvement, but anamul actually got some really good results when he started out so it's a different situation.
Looks like we both feel that Anamul would have benefited from International cricket. Anamul was really doing well in LOIs, he was our best bat between 2013-2014 and he played some good innings under pressure. But later after injury he was sent back to our substandard domestics where he regressed.

BTW, I don't think BCB has anyone new in their plans for the world cup. I feel someone like Taskin and rubel will be a part of our XI for the WC. Saifuddin is medium pace and doesn't swing the ball much. Good death bowler but we have fizz and rubel already.

I hope litton and mini makes it back to ODI squad too while also giving anamul a chance. Imrul no more
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Old February 6, 2018, 11:35 AM
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Lol, Shabbir opening. We will be 0-1 in the first over.
If I am not wrong, shabbir was playing one down in test.. maybe I am wrong. But I wanted a better fielder at sips than Imrul, those crucial catches could save more runs than Imrul would make before taking on a bouncer.
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Old February 6, 2018, 05:14 PM
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Yes because there is no space for him in the team
well there clearly was space when he was picked to make his debut lmao
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If I am not wrong, shabbir was playing one down in test.. maybe I am wrong. But I wanted a better fielder at sips than Imrul, those crucial catches could save more runs than Imrul would make before taking on a bouncer.
Opening position is a specialist position just like a keeper. You dont just throw in random guys to open in a test match
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Opening position is a specialist position just like a keeper. You dont just throw in random guys to open in a test match
Unless he's Tillekaratne Dilshan
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Prothom Alo is predicting that Sir Sabbir will take place of Mosaddek. Looks like we will see Sir Sabbir scoring tripple hundreds in both innings.
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Old February 7, 2018, 10:24 AM
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Sabbir rahman let us see his recent performances - failed in Tri series

scored a duck in FC cricket.
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Old February 7, 2018, 12:48 PM
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This is why we need a strong coach to keep the seniority culture in check. Mosaddek may pay for one brainfart and be replaced by a bolod like Sabbir with no brain whatsoever!
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Lmao so Sabbir vs Mossadek is considered a dilemma
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Seniority-er ki kono daam nai?

In all governance place promotion are mainly given on seniority. Why not in cricket?

I say it time to bring back Alok and Tushar.
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Lmao so Sabbir vs Mossadek is considered a dilemma
Strange isnt it?
Difference between the two is that Sub-bir is a proven failure and Mosad is yet to be.
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Mossadekk better player of spin. I don’t think Sabbir would’ve lasted much last match 2nd innings. No comparison, mossa temperamentally, overall much better player at test format. Sabbir cant play spin with good patience.
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Seniority-er ki kono daam nai?

In all governance place promotion are mainly given on seniority. Why not in cricket?

I say it time to bring back Alok and Tushar.
Why stop there? Let's recall Bashar, Nannu, Akram Khan, or our beloved Chacha! Any of them prolly will score more runs than Sabbir anyway!
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