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Old February 6, 2018, 08:54 PM
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I AM NOT A PAKISTANI! I am an Emirati born and bred.
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Old February 6, 2018, 08:57 PM
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I AM NOT A PAKISTANI! I am an Emirati born and bred.
In that case, what do you think of my idea of West Indies-type Arab team?
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Old February 6, 2018, 08:58 PM
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What is the point of having these "Arab" teams when their players can't even speak Arabic and are yelling at each other in Punjabi?
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Old February 6, 2018, 09:05 PM
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Then just don't play cricket. Face the facts, there isn't enough native interest to sustain cricket. You need to start somewhere. And if you dont want subcontinent origin players, then focus on soccer.
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Old February 6, 2018, 09:15 PM
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Then invest in the country where there is a grass roots system and enough interest rather than the countries which relies on domestic fringes of Pakistan and India. Hasan Raza the youngest player ever to play International cricket was about to represent UAE lol.
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Old February 6, 2018, 09:24 PM
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As far I understand, ICC investing in UAE not such much because of growth of cricket in the country, but because of it's geo-location. Both Afghanistan and Pakistan host matches here, since they can't host in their own countries. England also use UAE from time to time, to prepare for Asian tours.
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Old February 6, 2018, 09:25 PM
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In that case, what do you think of my idea of West Indies-type Arab team?
Much better than the crap its right now but that would limit the teams in ICC and its not like the players have any emotion or pride in the country they are staying. Rohan Mustafa, the current captain of UAE, was thrown out of UAE for absconding from his job. Most of those players don't even have a home in UAE/Oman and live in apartments with their family in their home country.
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Old February 7, 2018, 02:00 AM
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I hate Oman the most. Their players look and behave like rickshaw drivers.
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Old February 7, 2018, 05:06 AM
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Whether somone is from the UAE is their business.
Their is an overseas component to reguler and new posters here.
BTW England is the worst over 80 foreigners playing as locals in county cricket.
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Old February 7, 2018, 05:10 AM
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ICC should do what Australia does to refugees send them on a nice holiday to Christmas/Manu's Island.
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Old February 7, 2018, 06:34 AM
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I hate Oman the most. Their players look and behave like rickshaw drivers.
Do you hate Rickshaw drivers??
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Old February 7, 2018, 06:58 AM
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As long as you’ve born, grew up, hold the passport for more than 5years, it shouldn’t matter where your roots/origin from. You should be allowed to play for that country.


LIKE. Desi origins in UK. Moeen, Rashid and many more represented England.

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Old February 7, 2018, 09:27 AM
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LOL Getting passports for GCC is not that easy. As I have said, most of these players dont even give a f*** about the team they are playing for.

English players like Rashid, Moeen are born and bred there for their whole lives unlike these expats who have been here since 2010s
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Old February 7, 2018, 09:29 AM
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Didn't you get banned on cricwebforum?
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Old February 7, 2018, 10:39 AM
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Yes from all the forums even a wrestling forum.
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Old February 7, 2018, 11:36 AM
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Yes from all the forums even a wrestling forum.
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Old February 7, 2018, 12:01 PM
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Hahaha..executioner and nil dhumrohal those two are two bangladeshi posters from PP

Stop posing as an emrati dude
BTW who is executioner guy? Is he in this forum? Whats his username here?
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Firebreaker bhai saheeb, do you live in Abu Dhabi? My Dulabhai used to live there. His name was Khoka bhai.
I also have a chacchu named Dudhu Miah from Sultanpur who lives there. He works at a Oil refinery. Dudhu uncle said it is very hot there and there is no trees but lots of camels and khejur. Dhu dhu Morubhumi with moricheeka. I think that is the main problem with cricket in the Arabian Peninsula...Morubhumi...no grass on the field. If there is no grass on the field, one should never ever play.
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Old February 7, 2018, 01:31 PM
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Let's not get into the bonafides of Firebreaker. The question he raises is a valid one. How much should a country's national team consist of home-grown vs foreign-raised players. Notice how I've termed this. Not about birth. Andrew Strauss was born in South Africa but he moved to UK as a child and is as English as they come in terms of culture, batting style etc. Kevin Pieterson moved to UK as an adult after having played representative cricket for South Africa. His attitude, style, and affinity is not fully English - which is one of the reasons he never meshed with their setup.

I think it's important for this discussion to acknowledge that Ethnicity is irrelevant. Nasser Hussain, Jeetan Patel, Owais Shah or Hashim Amla may be South Asian in their ethnicity, Andrew Symonds might be a Windian in his ethnicity but they are Brit, Kiwi, Oz, Saffer and Oz indubitably. Colin Grandhome or Imran Tahir or Robert Wagner or Sikandar Reza or Xavier Marshall - not so much. They moved to their representative country for monetary or personal reasons. It is this group I think that Firebreaker highlights.

My position on this question is that it is all relative. Countries such as Australia, NZ, South Africa or Australia or England _may_ have players that were raised in other countries, and who emigrated to these countries for monetary/political reasons. However these players do NOT constitute the majority of the squad. There is a valid domestic cricket scene, youth cricket pipeline, etc. Countries such as Kenya, Fiji, while weak nations meet that description. I believe this is OK and to be expected in a global economy. Especially if the players concerned have put down roots ala Imran in South Africa or Ben Stokes for England.

Then there are other squads where the majority of players are emigres. Now if these emigres are putting down roots, I can kinda accept it but most of them retain a much stronger affinity to the country of their birth. If the cricket team of your country is constituted of players of this nature then you should reinvest your funds in grass-roots cricket because your national team is not really representative.
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Firebreaker bhai saheeb, do you live in Abu Dhabi? My Dulabhai used to live there. His name was Khoka bhai.
I also have a chacchu named Dudhu Miah from Sultanpur who lives there. He works at a Oil refinery. Dudhu uncle said it is very hot there and there is no trees but lots of camels and khejur. Dhu dhu Morubhumi with moricheeka. I think that is the main problem with cricket in the Arabian Peninsula...Morubhumi...no grass on the field. If there is no grass on the field, one should never ever play.
Grass can be produced in middle east and they should play.

Grass in Dubai


Meanwhile uncle Dudhu Mia and his family

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Old February 7, 2018, 01:51 PM
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I AM NOT A PAKISTANI! I am an Emirati born and bred.
What's your nationality then? Don't tell me Emirati. Because I'm born and bred in Gulf too, but have no rights to call myself an Arab.
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Old February 7, 2018, 01:51 PM
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As far I understand, ICC investing in UAE not such much because of growth of cricket in the country, but because of it's geo-location. Both Afghanistan and Pakistan host matches here, since they can't host in their own countries. England also use UAE from time to time, to prepare for Asian tours.
Its not just that, UAE is the next Hong Kong - pending usual middle east security related logistical constraints. ICC headquarters were in London for ages and makes sense. Why would they move their HQ to Dubai circa 2005? Even Delhi or Mumbai or Bangalore makes way more sense.

Dubai is prime real estate. The Emiratis are the wisened Arabs. The Saudis, and others also got rich off fossil fuels but they are [largely] too foolish and lazy to diversify their economies and too selfish to think 50, 100, 1000 years into the future. The UAE did that and started promoting finance, tourism, and whatever else requires excessive bling bling opulence. In fact, notable props recently came from Daniel Pipes, the middle east expert who wrote in 2009 that UAE's extravagence was empty, hollow, and fake and that it would all come crashing down. But he penned a 2017 update in which he said his initial assessment was wrong and that perhaps the UAE is a Islamic model of how a repressive, authoritarian, yet extremely captalistic country could achieve stability. It now appears that KSA under MbS is following or attempting to follow the same model, albeit 15 years later. My guess would that Oman, Qatar, and Bahrain already follow the so-called UAE model.
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Old February 7, 2018, 02:02 PM
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What's your nationality then? Don't tell me Emirati. Because I'm born and bred in Gulf too, but have no rights to call myself an Arab.
My dad is an Emirati and my Mother is American citizen hence I am Emirati.
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Old February 7, 2018, 02:03 PM
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Firebreaker bhai saheeb, do you live in Abu Dhabi? My Dulabhai used to live there. His name was Khoka bhai.
I also have a chacchu named Dudhu Miah from Sultanpur who lives there. He works at a Oil refinery. Dudhu uncle said it is very hot there and there is no trees but lots of camels and khejur. Dhu dhu Morubhumi with moricheeka. I think that is the main problem with cricket in the Arabian Peninsula...Morubhumi...no grass on the field. If there is no grass on the field, one should never ever play.
I live in Za'abeel in Dubai.
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