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Old April 6, 2018, 07:54 PM
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Default Similarities Between Bengali and Persian

just saw this video. I dont know if these guys handpicked words that are similar for the sake of the video, but the similarity is uncanny. I always thought Bangla and Hindi both came from Sangskrit thats why these two languages are similar but where did persian came from!

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Old April 6, 2018, 09:53 PM
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Going out on a limb and say it has to do with the Mughal influence and Persian speaking Muslim rulers of the past. Iirc a lot would settle in Bengal
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Old April 6, 2018, 09:56 PM
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Made me Google cause it got me interested and found this link.

http://thoughts-on-islam.blogspot.ca...ngali.html?m=1
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Old April 6, 2018, 11:25 PM
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Made me Google cause it got me interested and found this link.

http://thoughts-on-islam.blogspot.ca...ngali.html?m=1
Wow, this is really interesting.
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Old April 7, 2018, 04:55 AM
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Persian is one of the most beautiful sounding language ever. There are Persian influence due to trade and early Persian settlers. Bangladeshi conglomerate “Ispahani” is one of them. They are originally Persian and from Isfahan so we Bengalis called them Isfahani which became Ispahani.

I watch a lot of Persian films.
With subtitles of course but can pick out many words.

If anyone has time please watch “children of heaven” or as they say in Farsi “baccha i asman”...
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Made me Google cause it got me interested and found this link.

http://thoughts-on-islam.blogspot.ca...ngali.html?m=1
this is really interesting, thanks for the link
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Old April 7, 2018, 10:40 AM
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Made me Google cause it got me interested and found this link.

http://thoughts-on-islam.blogspot.ca...ngali.html?m=1
interesting article. but the writer seems too obsessed on "conspiracy" and downplays the effect of sanskrit. while farsi had a major influence, sanskrit still remains the source and mother language of bangla. noticed it is from religious site and thus trying to discount sanskrit (and hindu) influence. thus I would be wary of his motive.

he claims the very word "bangla" is persian derived. that is up for debate. during the roman empire, this region was known as "vanga" and over the years changed and morphed into bangla (or bangala).

nevertheless, after sanskirt, farsi had the most influence forming bengali.
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Old April 7, 2018, 11:12 AM
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Yeh I agree with the unnecessary down play of Sanskrit influence.
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interesting article. but the writer seems too obsessed on "conspiracy" and downplays the effect of sanskrit. while farsi had a major influence, sanskrit still remains the source and mother language of bangla. noticed it is from religious site and thus trying to discount sanskrit (and hindu) influence. thus I would be wary of his motive.

he claims the very word "bangla" is persian derived. that is up for debate. during the roman empire, this region was known as "vanga" and over the years changed and morphed into bangla (or bangala).

nevertheless, after sanskirt, farsi had the most influence forming bengali.
very good point Mufi. It's embarrassing when a lot of bengalis try to downplay the role of sanskrit because its equated to hinduism. The irony is that the writer of this blog most likely has ancestors who were Hindu converts. You cannot change history just to fit your narrative.

Also, just to add to your point, vanga = banga, from which we get and still use the phrase bangabandhu.
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Old April 7, 2018, 11:35 AM
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Tbh that is a islamic blogpost, what he did was not unexpected. I dont know what these guys feel good on doing these

anyway lets not turn this thread into a religious one please
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why is there a rug on the table? I thought they are supposed to be under the table. Or am i doing it wrong?
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Old April 7, 2018, 11:42 AM
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I have an Iranian friend and they also call vegetables "sabzi", and one of the popular dishes in Iran is sabzi pulao.
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Old April 7, 2018, 11:59 AM
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I found similarities between some Bangla and Arabic words. Off the top of my head I can think of these Arabic words that are very close to what we use in Bangla - Batil, Khabais, Fakir. I came across more in the past, I can’t remember right now.

What’s the link between Farsi and Arabic? Which is older?
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Both languages are khub shundor. Shunte khub bhala sundor lagche.

Hmm..the Bangali girl has a husky voice...which is fine, a lot of famous singers have husky voice, like Lucinda Williams, Gillian Welch, Patty Smith.

I don't think that was a Persian rug...ogular daam onek beshi...pattern-ta dekhe mone hocche BJMC carpet...proudly hand-made in Bangladesh, by Bnagladesh Jute Mills Corporation. Very nice.
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Isnt Paani a farsi word ?
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arabic and farsi are very similar due to just proximity. arabia ends with iraq and persia starts with iran. thats why similar writing script and centuries on social interaction.

bengali has common farsi words but not the grammar. language is more than just few words. the grammar is mostly sanskirt.
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Old April 7, 2018, 12:17 PM
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Isnt Paani a farsi word ?
Yes, Paani is Farsi...Kintoo Paan (jorda) is Bangla - like as in 'Paan theke chun khoshle ekebarey Tele Begune jole uthen dada-babu...'

Also Paani is Farsi, but Pora-paani is Bangal!
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Ohh also Laal-Paani I believe is Bangali too!
Mone koro na je Paani is Farosi, so tumi Tehran-e giya Laal-Paani, laal-pani request korbe, keu bujhte parbe naa ki bolcho.
Tobe, jodi Ayatuollah bujthe pare gow, tobe tumar khobor ache! I mean khobor=kobor!
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^hoat ebout "tabij" ?
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Old April 7, 2018, 12:33 PM
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Very nice find from N.W, BC needs more threads like this, never knew Persian and Bengali vernacular/languages were linked.
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fellas, help me out here. What language is "haash patal" derived from? As in "jor hoice, kome na, haash patal cholo"?
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Yes, Paani is Farsi...Kintoo Paan (jorda) is Bangla - like as in 'Paan theke chun khoshle ekebarey Tele Begune jole uthen dada-babu...'

Also Paani is Farsi, but Pora-paani is Bangal!
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fellas, help me out here. What language is "haash patal" derived from? As in "jor hoice, kome na, haash patal cholo"?
english - hospital.

which is from latin - hospitale meaning shelter.

so hospital got bangla-nized and became hash patal.
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There's no similarity between Bengali and Persian. One is a Sanskriti language and other is Arabic. There are a lot of sims between Urdu and Persian so the Urdu words which are used in Hindi/Bengali are similar
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There's no similarity between Bengali and Persian. One is a Sanskriti language and other is Arabic. There are a lot of sims between Urdu and Persian so the Urdu words which are used in Hindi/Bengali are similar
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