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Old May 26, 2004, 12:20 PM
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Default 12-man team for 1st Test vs WI St. Lucia

Enamul Haque Junior, Alamgir Kabir and Alok Kapali are out from the 12-man national team for the 1st test.
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Old May 26, 2004, 12:23 PM
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Source: channel I 11 O'clock sports news.

Tareq Aziz is most certainly to play his debut test match in the 1st test.

If the team management decides to play with 6 specialist batsman, then the team line up is like this:

1. Javed Omar
2. Hannan Sarkar
3. Habibul Bashar
4. Rajin Saleh
5. Mohammad Ashraful
6. Foisal Hossain
7. Khaled Mashud
8. Mushfiqur Rahman
9. Mohammad Rafique
10. Tareq Aziz
11. Tapash Baisya

And, if the team management decides to play with an extra bowler, then Monjurul Islam Rana will play in place of Foisal Hossain.
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Old May 26, 2004, 12:24 PM
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The final eleven players will be decided by tonight.
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Old May 26, 2004, 12:24 PM
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Its bad idea to keep rana out of team.
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Old May 26, 2004, 12:30 PM
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The inevitable "doesn't make sense team". so 3 spinners won't happen, we don't even see 2 spinners in FW's team.

Rana can bat as well as Mushfiq, and Mushfiq's pace will not bother WI batsmen. But Rana's spin might. So why don't we play Rana in place of Mushfiq?
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Old May 26, 2004, 12:35 PM
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Rana gets runs practically every time he bats.
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Old May 26, 2004, 01:40 PM
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why don't we change tareq aziz with rana. tareq's pace attack is, at his best, utter useless. there is no point of having tareq and mushfique togather in the team. as someone in other thread said, wi players even will not recognize the difference between tareq and mushfique. but mushfiq can bat better than tareq and thats keep him ahead of tareq. but rana stays a few step ahead of all of them. in fact, i'd exchange rana for any of the following: javed, rajin, mushfiq, aziz.
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:24 PM
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Ok, im confused, why did they take Rana out

its as bad as Replacing Tino Best and Edwards with Sanford and Dillon.
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:33 PM
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you bet rana will play. it will come down between mushfy and tareq.
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:34 PM
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Nobody is taking Rana out. Its just speculation.

RANA is absolutely, surely, definitely, beyond any doubt IN. Unless he is injured I can wager anything that he is playing.

My guess would be Mushfiq or Tarek out. I would pick Mushfiq for his batting. I don't think Tarek can penetrate WI any more than Mushfiq.
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:45 PM
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Rana is THE consistant player in the team, so he plays. Mushfi plays as well but Aziz doesn't. Aziz & Kabir can only bother Zimbo batsmen, not others!

1. Javed Omar
2. Hannan Sarkar
3. Habibul Bashar
4. Rajin Saleh
5. Mohammad Ashraful
6. Foisal Hossain
7. Khaled Mashud
8. Manjarul Islam Rana
9. Mushfiqur Rahman
10. Mohammad Rafique
11. Tapash Baisya

This team shall play.

6 proper batsmen (are they?)
2 allrounders ( ooyeah it counts for BD due to obvious batting collapse)
2 quality SLAs
1.5 quickies
& part-timers here and there.

Even this composition should be enough for a draw.
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:48 PM
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Perhaps it's not about who is scoring more runs..
maybe its Pace vs. Spin decided by pitch.(as fw mentioned)
that makes the choice Rana vs. Tareq
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Old May 26, 2004, 02:49 PM
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forget ranas batting here. he is included by virtue of being a specialist spin bowler. otherwise, enamul won't be sitting out. like i said it will come down between mushfy and tareq. now that faisal is a lock at no6 and rana at no7, all of a sudden the need for mushfies bat has lessened a bit. remember that mushfy played as a no6 batsman before in tests.
if they are extra cautious about batting, they will take mushfy as well, leaving tareq out though he can take wkts sometimes.
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Old May 26, 2004, 03:26 PM
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If Rana didn't know how to bat he would be in the 11 by virtue of his bowling(since Jr. is out).

If Rana didn't know how to ball he would be in the 11 by virtue of his batting (Since no one else is in better form).

He is in either way regardless of the pitch even if we play with tennis balls.

[Edited on 26-5-2004 by pagol-chagol]
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Old May 26, 2004, 03:36 PM
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These factors may work:

1. Faisal's inclusion.. so we can spare Rana's batting

2. Lara/Sarwan/ChandPawl plays spin well.. so Rana may be spared (thoug Rana did well against the later two of them)

or,
Rana will be played if the pitch favors spin
Mushfiq will probably not be dropped in either case.

[Edited on 26-5-2004 by crickethorizon]
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I think either Rana or Tareq Aziz.
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Old May 26, 2004, 03:46 PM
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no matter rana or tareq play all are
same
if ran plays add 30 runs
else if tarek plays add 1 wkt extra
otherwise
no extra 30 runs no extra one wkt
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Old May 26, 2004, 03:49 PM
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TextWhatEver, bangladeshi Batsmans suck ... we are loosing by a huge margin .. even innings defeat is also very much likely ... not being a passimist .. its just dire truth.
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Old May 26, 2004, 03:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by crickethorizon
2. Lara/Sarwan/ChandPawl plays spin well.. so Rana may be spared (thoug Rana did well against the later two of them)

[Edited on 26-5-2004 by crickethorizon]
There is a famuous Bangladeshi KOTHA that seems appropriate here.
"Mushfiq/Tarek will be swept away in Sir Lara's urine."
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Old May 26, 2004, 04:19 PM
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2. Lara/Sarwan/ChandPawl plays spin well.. so Rana may be spared (thoug Rana did well against the later two of them)

[Edited on 26-5-2004 by crickethorizon]
There is a famuous Bangladeshi KOTHA that seems appropriate here.
"Mushfiq/Tarek will be swept away in Sir Lara's urine."
the best would be just to play the best team we have. sir lara can sweep anything away when he gets going. so just play your best and hope for the best.
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Old May 26, 2004, 04:34 PM
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Rafiq wrote The inevitable "doesn't make sense team". so 3 spinners won't happen, we don't even see 2 spinners in FW's team.

Rana can bat as well as Mushfiq, and Mushfiq's pace will not bother WI batsmen. But Rana's spin might. So why don't we play Rana in place of Mushfiq?


I think he is right. we should change Rana in place of Mushfiq. shouldn't we ?
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Old May 26, 2004, 05:56 PM
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Old May 26, 2004, 09:31 PM
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I think it will come down to either Mushfiq or Foisal. Everybody is thinking Foisal is given. But according to Prothom Alo, he's not.
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Old May 26, 2004, 11:47 PM
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this is never ever happened before. we never had TWO inform player in the team at the same time. and now we do: faisal and rana. i can't even imagine how the question of sparing anyone of them comes up. here is what i think:

Javed can be changed by: rana
Hannan can be changed by: rana
Habibul can be changed by: faisal
asharaful can be changed by: none
rajin can be changed by: rana & faisal
mushfiq can be changed by: rana & faisal
pilot can be changed by: none
taposh can be changed by: none
rafique can be changed by: none
tareq can be changed by: whoever

i'll call the dav-faruk-sumon selection board DUMB if they leaves any one of them out as u can see rana can come instead of five players and faisal can come in instead of four players. i'm making this "replacable" on current form of the players, not on so called talent or useless stats. yeah, since consistancy is not a virtue of bd players, stats are useless too.

tell me why even tareq and alamgir are in the team?
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Old May 26, 2004, 11:54 PM
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either Rana or Faisal will play....Tareq Aziz is playing for sure according to the news
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