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Old June 28, 2004, 04:41 AM
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Default Opener Strategy for ASIA CUP

According to the Newspapers here is our opener strategy for the Asia cup:

Reuglar
1. J. Omar (Guard one end with low yet steady runs)
2. Ashraful (expected to do well and score at a higher rate in the first 15 overs)

In case of curtled over matches
1. Rafiq may be brought to open with a high scoring rate.

Backup/Alternatives
1. Rana
2. Faisal
(These two will be considered if the other fail to do the job)

Innings Target
Minumum 225 to 250 Runs per innings.

Best of luck to the team and all the fans!..


[Edited on 28-6-2004 by crickethorizon]
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Old June 28, 2004, 04:46 AM
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targetta kom howe gelo bhai...on a sri lankan pitch, i'd expect them to score 270, if they want to win matches, that is.
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Old June 28, 2004, 04:53 AM
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yes u r right.. 250+ score is always very good and strong one.

225-250 is actually the score Whatmore said he wants his team to make atleast, according to the media.

Lets hope our team does much better in batting in this tournament this time. They look confident!
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Old June 28, 2004, 05:16 AM
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they will do beter than that inshallah
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Old June 28, 2004, 10:52 AM
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I am afraid of practice matches.... don't want to see any defeat in four (ya four including HK) practice matches ... but I know I will .... SL selections are strong and will be real test for us.
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Old June 28, 2004, 11:29 AM
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We are probably making the most elaborate preparations of all the teams in this Asia Cup. The intent of our team is clearly not to leave any stone unturned. No matter what the results are, it won't be because of a lack of application. In fact we are due for an upset of the right kind...i.e.a win against a big team, not a loss against a weak team.
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Old June 28, 2004, 01:18 PM
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Default So..........?

... so, how would our line up look for the asia cup? bring ash for opening opens up space for an extra middle order. does that mean we'll see faisal debuting for odi?

1. Javed: fixed.
2. Asharaful: fixed
3. Suman: fixed
4. Rajin: fixed
5. Faisal: might be changed by alok
6. Rana: probably fixed
7. Mushfiq: fixed as it seems so far
8. pilot: fixed
9. Sujon: fixed
10. Rafique: fixed
11. Tapash: fixed

unless the pitch is really spin friendly, i don't see chance for rajjak, and even few chance for tareq.

[Edited on 29-6-2004 by AgentSmith]
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Old June 28, 2004, 01:20 PM
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Pompous. India also taking rigorous traning, like SL. In international cricket this type of training regime is kind of norm this days. I hope all the best for them.
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Old June 28, 2004, 01:43 PM
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I know! but which team is going to SL 2 weeks early to play practice matches, and reconditioning?! :P But you are abslutely right...Producing results at this level will require rigorous preparations as a norm.


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Pompous. India also taking rigorous traning, like SL. In international cricket this type of training regime is kind of norm this days. I hope all the best for them.
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Old June 28, 2004, 01:43 PM
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The only thing that I am hoping for in this Asia Cup is to beat one of the test playing nations (especially Dan- gully’ team). If we could manage that our mission will be successful no matter what. I would also like to see Faisal in the starting XI instead of Alok.
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Old June 28, 2004, 01:53 PM
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Default About Innings Target - How it looked like

Last 11 matches....

10. West Indies 124 (3 wickets, 24.1 overs)
Bangladesh 118 (7 wickets, 25 overs)

9. West Indies 124 (7 wickets, 25 overs)
Bangladesh 101 (8 wickets, 25 overs)

8. West Indies 145 (9 wickets, 46.4 overs, 190 mins)
Bangladesh 144 (8 wickets, 50 overs, 210 mins)

7. England 185 (3 wickets, 39.3 overs)
Bangladesh 182 (all out, 49.1 overs)

6. England 137 (3 wickets, 27.4 overs)
Bangladesh 134 (9 wickets, 50 overs)

5. England 144 (3 wickets, 25.3 overs)
Bangladesh 143 (all out, 44.4 overs)

4. Zimbabwe 185 (7 wickets, 42.3 overs)
Bangladesh 183 (all out, 48.5 overs)

3. Zimbabwe 242 (8 wickets, 50 overs)
Bangladesh 228 (all out, 49.2 overs)

2. Zimbabwe 230 (9 wickets, 50 overs)
Bangladesh 238 (7 wickets, 50 overs)

1. Pakistan 302 (5 wickets, 50 overs)
Bangladesh 244 (7 wickets, 50 overs)

0. Pakistan 226 (5 wickets, 49.5 overs)
Bangladesh 222 (8 wickets, 50 overs)

So in last 11 matches BD never crossed 250 mark??? No!
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Old June 28, 2004, 03:12 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by AgentSmith
... so, how would our line up look for the asia cup? bring ash for opening opens up space for an extra middle order. does that mean we'll see faisal debuting for odi?

Did not Faisal play ODI in WI?
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Old June 28, 2004, 11:51 PM
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Agent Smith, you forgot a keeper. Pilot will probably play instead of sujon...that would be my choice anyway.

It would seem the lineup will be:
Omar
Ashraful
Habibul
Rajin
Faisal or Alok
Manjural
Mushfiqur
Mashud
Rafique
Tapash
Tareq

Personally im not happy with this opener strategy, i think ash might be better lower and im not a fan of omar. I am a fan of alok, and hannan for that matter, but both have been out of form lately. Faisal did play at least once in WI in odi, he scored 17 off 14 balls i think. BRING BACK TUSHAR as well.

[Edited on 29-6-2004 by blink]
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Old June 29, 2004, 12:05 AM
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i missed 8. pilot
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Old June 29, 2004, 12:10 AM
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twice agent you forgat the most important man! what's going on
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Old June 29, 2004, 12:47 AM
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well i don't want mushfique in the team. chacha's ok, but i'd rather play tareq instead of mushfique; reasons: we need two fast bowlers at least, and tareq's ability to keep his cool in the slog overs.
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Old June 29, 2004, 01:00 AM
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I know they're planning to have Ash as an opener but I'd like to see Ash blast away at the death like against Zimbabwe and Rana has a good opening record.
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Old June 29, 2004, 01:25 PM
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Keeping the performance of the last tour(WI) in mind... the following guys may do very well:

1.Bashar (seems to be in a run hunger)
2.Ashraful
3. Faisal (Looked like an ODI batsman to me)
4.Rajin (Will get our in his 40's again though )
5.Rafiq/Rana/Tapash/Pilot as re-constructors
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Old June 29, 2004, 10:56 PM
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If Bangladesh want to win the match they have to make 250 + regularly
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Old July 2, 2004, 01:41 PM
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I have the BD vs. Canada game at home and I survived the pain of watching the game several times. I just wanted to see what went wrong. Is Canada a better team than BD? Or it was just one very very bad day? My observations (tried to be as un-biased as possible) was technically BD was lot better than Canada in terms of footwork, style and so on. There is no comparison on that. But the thing that was so obvious was the irresponsibility of our batsmen. You could tell from their facial expression that they just did not give any respect to their opponent. Since Canada was bowled out for only 170 (?) some runs BD batsmen thought it would be a piece of cake for them and start playing rash shot from the very first ball. I saw few batsmen (Hannan Sarkar) were smiling even after they almost lost their wickets for playing silly shots. At the end they all paid the price for not being responsible as a batsmen. By the time the tail enders wanted to save the game it was too late.

I really think it was a failure of the coach Mohsin Kamal who couldn't inject the sense or responsibility in our batsmen. That is exactly Whatmore is trying to do. Making them responsible. So for this Asia cup I just hope our batsmen will play with lot of seriousness and responsibility. If they can do that you don't know what they can do but definitely you may expect some pleasant surprise.
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Old July 2, 2004, 03:17 PM
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BD did not respect canada...and canada took em to school for it. that is what happens when u dont respect ur opponent. im glad canada won, they deserved it. im waiting for the day we school ind and pak
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Old July 3, 2004, 11:03 AM
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I think for ODI, every batsman(6 of the team?) should have a terget of 30 runs atleast.
And the indivdual run rate should be around 50% or more.
If the rest of them ( bowler ) can add more 10 to 15 each, we will have a competative score.
Althou it's not that simple.
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Old July 3, 2004, 01:08 PM
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targeting 30's will not lead us to anywhere. see, not everyone will be able to do good in each day. now, say out of 6 batsmen 3 can do good on a given day, other 3 fails. when the 3 that do good target 30s, once they reach that mark, they will think that they have done their job. result 90+some other =~150. well below competitive. all first 4 should target tons when playing and at least 50s for the next two. otherwise, we'll not reach the acceptable total of 250+. i know its too much to ask for, but if we can't do that we can't expect to win.
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Old July 3, 2004, 02:23 PM
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I know cricket pundits say "send your best player early so they have all the time play" but when it comes to BD I'm not too sure. That's why I'm not too confident if I wanna see *** openning, though he's the most talented in our armoury, I'd still like not so valuable player go early and fight with the movement of the new balls.

I wanna see some one like Rana or Faysal to go and hit out and take the shine and moral out of the opponents and then our bests capitulating on that. I know it's defensive, but hey I wanna defend my country's pride by whatever means.
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Old July 3, 2004, 10:58 PM
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Thank you Agentsmith, you are right.
When they score around 40, it seems that they have done their job.
It's happening all the match and we lose all the time.
But the news paper give them high recommendation and some consolation
for the rest who failed, or saying it wasn't their day.
Getting out bellow 10 or 20 should not get an excuse any way for OPENERS,
Habibul, Ash and other TOP ORDER, according to their responsibilities ( In my view ).
Asking 100 for the first 4, seems too much for them as you mentioned ( according to their performance )
But a terget 50 could be reasonable and they have that ability I think.
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