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Old August 24, 2004, 09:18 PM
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A captain for the Champions Trophy will also be named Tuesday. He will be the choice of the BCB president, said BCBs cricket committee chairman Mahbub Anam on Monday.

According to medias, former captain Khaled Mahmud is foremost in the running for the makeshift responsibility. Vice-captain Rajin Saleh and another ex-captain Khaled Mashud were also reportedly in contention.

Two interesting points here. Why the BCB has to rely solely on its president, can't the cricket operations committee make the call? If the decision is so hard, how one person could make it simple?

Anyway, lets try to analyse the situation.

First we need to set a target. To a minimum, we need to stage a respectable show in the Champion's Trophy as well as in the practice matches. Our mission would be fairly accomplished if we manage to win comfortably all of the practice matches and tight games in the trophy. A win against the West Indies is not out of the reach. Any win in the trophy would be a much welcome bonus.

Second point refers to the how we could reach that target. Against the Hong Kong in the recently concluded Asia Cup, we managed to score 221 runs. Even though we ended up winning by a huge margin of 116 runs, officials in the BCB, media and fans were not that satisfied. It went further downhill with the progressive dismal performance with the bat that were to follow in that tournament.

A closer look would reveal that all the dissatisfactions circled around our bating only. No one voiced a single word against our bowling except for a few raised eyebrows about the match against the Lankans.

At this point, it would be fair to say that we are not too unhappy with our current available bowling attack while the batting continues to give us missing heart beats.

It is clear that we need improvements in the batting department more than the attacking one.

Now, lets try to define "respectable show" (winning is the best show, I wouldn't discuss it ) that has the potential to give us much relief even if we end up in the loosing side. Two hypothetical situation may help us visualize the scenario.

In the first example, we score 250+ and end up loosing by any margin. In the second, we score less than 150 and end up loosing by any margin.

Unless it is really close, like a one wicket or just few runs defeat, we can not take much positives from the second example. On the other hand, 250+ would provide much boast to our delight irrespective of the margin of loss.

Here again we see that improved batting is the call of the time. Concomitent improvement in the bowling is desirable but not at the cost of a batting hope.

With the addition of Nazmul, our attack is even better. Too bad, we can't have the service of Razzak at the moment.

Tapash, Aziz, Nazmul, Mahmud, Mushfiq, Rafique and Rana comprise our attack. We need five from the seven in any match. Tapash seems to be a natural choice. One spinner is essential according to the pundits. Both Rafique and Rana are capable of doing their job well with the ball. Rana's remarkable consistency and flexibility with the bat makes him an automatic choice in the final eleven.

Only an expert could say if we need two SLAs in one match. The weather and pitch might also play a role in this regard.

Nazmul enjoyed some recent success in the English condition. Yes it was against the juniors, but managing the ball to swing and to deliver the ball to the right place are functions of ability not of the quality of the opponent. If he don't succumb to major disaster in the practice matches, I believe, he deserves a place in at least one of the matches.

Mushfiq is a true work horse. He works real hard to make things happen. On his day he could give quite a scare to the batsmen. But after tying the knott he seems to have divided concentration. Of course we can't blame him. He is no alrounder, at least not now.

Mahmud. The master of deception in our cricket. He is by far the only pacer who uses his brain more than any of his compatriots while bowling. He also seems to have some tricky variations (deception?) in his bag. Careless batsmen will pay dearly to his magic. But the careful ones will have little mercy on Mahmud, as the history will testify. His batting is comparable to any other bowlers and at times a little high.

Aziz on the other hand is a decent pace bowler. He is dangerous if the pitch shows early movements. But his real worth lies in the slog overs where he proved remarkable talent and cool many a times. With the bat, he can spend quite some time in the crease collecting valuable singles and providing support. I wouldn't hesitate to put my faith on him at the moment.

Since Rana can justify his position as a batsman, Tapash is our best hope and Aziz a close second, that leaves us with two bowlers to choose from four. A rotation among the fours depending upon their performance in the practice match is the way to go. We can even include Aziz in the loop if we want to. So there is no automatic choice beyond Tapash and Rana. And none of the rest can justify his position as a batsman.

A captain must ensure his place in the eleven. With this analysis, Mahmud can not replace a batsman and must fight for his place first as a bowler before he can lead the tigers. His contention to the captaincy can not be justified at present.

Khaled Masud has his place writen in stone for a while. His performance is very good. But leadership qualities were absent not too long ago. Under Whatmore and with time, the former skipper had chances to reflect on his weaknesses. The coach, selectors and his close associates would have a better idea. He is a rightful contender of the captaincy.

Rajin Saleh had some bad patches. But towards the end of the Asia Cup, he again showed glimpses of hopes. We still can count on him as long as he is in the crease. With the absence of Bashar, his place in the eleven is firmer than ever. As the current vice captain, he had opportunities to experience closely the rigors of leadership. He can genuinely claim the temporary skippership.

If we can manage to stay above all emotions and look with utmost professionalism for a captain, we can easily rule out Mahmud. With the remaining two, both has weaknesses. But the aurgument of age in case of Rajin is futile. He is young, true, but old enough to play Test cricket, good enough to justify his place in the squad and be a vice captain. But his inexperience as a captain is a negative point. Masud has experience, but a tainted one, with both bowling rotation and behaviour.

Remember Bashar? Our captain? He also didn't have experience as captain. In fact, unless given the opportunity, nobody will have experience. I personally believe and many would agree that, neither Masud nor Rajin will make serious blunder as a temporary captain for the coming few matches.

Now lets break the tie. With Masud being the skipper, we have nothing much to achieve for future captaincy in one hand and denying Rajin an opportunity to gether experience on the other. With Rajin being the skipper, denying Masud will not have any negative effect on him or on the team.

Finally, this will not be the only time we'd face such dillema. If history is of any indication, we will have our regular captain not playing in a match or two for one reason or the other. Do the BCB guys have to scratch their heads and pull whatever hairs left on there every time that happens? We need to think twice before breaking an established protocol once it is made. If we break the protocol now, make no mistake, it will be broken many times. But if we set a professional example now, it wouldn't be easy to break day after tomorrow.
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Old August 24, 2004, 10:37 PM
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I think we could beat South Africa also. Why should we give up on them. And if they play like "club cricketers" as Graeme Smith their captain has said then i beleive we should beat them.
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Old August 24, 2004, 10:41 PM
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If we can post 250+, we have decent chance against anyone Yes, they are beatable.
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Old August 24, 2004, 11:02 PM
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250+ would provide much boast to our delight irrespective of the margin of loss.
I think 250+ is not a realistic target, even against the West Indies. The only times that we managed to get past 250 is against Zimbabwe, and the closest that we had reached nearing 250 was against India (during 2000 when we had our batting line up more improved and experienced) and against Pakistan (last year 2004 when we had our best series batting-wise more recently)
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Old August 24, 2004, 11:03 PM
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250+ would provide much boast to our delight irrespective of the margin of loss.
I think 250+ is not a realistic target, even against the West Indies. The only times that we managed to get past 250 is against Zimbabwe, and the closest that we had reached nearing 250 was against India (during 2000 when we had our batting line up more improved and experienced) and against Pakistan (last year 2004 when we had our best series batting-wise more recently)
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Old August 24, 2004, 11:10 PM
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We need to make improvements and set up the batting line up accordingly. If we don't set a target, how could we reach there? Yes, 250 is a tough target, but we can work hard to reach there. It is not impossible.

Even if we manage to go anywhere near 250, it is sure to lift our morals irrespective of the result.
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Old August 25, 2004, 03:41 AM
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Second point refers to the how we could reach that target. Against the Hong Kong in the recently concluded Asia Cup, we managed to score 221 runs. Even though we ended up winning by a huge margin of 116 runs, officials in the BCB, media and fans were not that satisfied. It went further downhill with the progressive dismal performance with the bat that were to follow in that tournament.
Looking back I think historians will conclude that the "expectation level" was too high against teams such as India and Pakistan . So let's see the performances in the next few games/series to see if there really is a performance downhill curve that the Asia cup suggested.
Anyway good analysis.
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Old August 25, 2004, 07:10 AM
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. He can genuinely claim the temporary skippership.
not with his current form. just for the sake of experience u cant make just anyone the captain. for someone to be a captain, or to even claim captaincy he himself should be performing . his performance shud be exemplary. and u just cant rule out mashud or mahmud just because they are old or something. I am not saying that you said this but many on this board just care about only one thing. future future future. well, even if rajin is made captain, after 4 or 5 years or so, everyone will be screaming for someother young player to be captain. Why?. Because he needs to gain experience as captain for the future.. When will this future come? well, ok. do think bout the future. let him gain some experience, but that doesn't mean letting young players (with bad form, in case of rajin) lead the team in an important series?. ( i do consider the champions trophy as something important). If a player in a bad form is made captain and is failing persistently, the players in the team wont even have faith in the captain.
Anyways. All i want is mahmud or mashud to be captain. Thats my personal opinion.
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Old August 25, 2004, 07:10 AM
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Very detailed analysis of each player from chinaman, easy to understand for me who don't know much about them.
Yes, we need to set a target first. To get that target, we also need to set each players individual target too ( score and run rate).
We can set the targets in many categories like .... Team target, group target and individual target.
I think you guys have batter idea, In my view it could be something like bellow when we bat.

Team target :
15 overs target : 68runs, loss W 2, RR 4.5
30 overs target : 75runs, loss W 4, RR 5.0
40 overs target : 50runs, loss W 6, RR 5.0
Total target : 60runs, loss W 9or10, RR 6.0
Three 50 from top and mid order
If we set a total target for 250, then we should split that total target to above terms
Group target :
I have no idea what it could be, but based on above total score, it could be as bellow for example.
Top order(1 to 4) target : 30 * 4 = 120 with RR 85% avg.
Mid order(5 to 7) target : 30 * 3 = 90 with RR 85% avg.
Tail order(8 to 11) target : 10 * 4 = 40 with RR 75% avg.
Individual target :
for example,
Each top should set the target 50 with RR 85% avg.
Each mid should set the target 40 with RR 85% avg.
Each Tail should set the target 20 with RR 75% avg.
These target will not be helpful until each score more than his target, because some of them
definitely will be out before get his target.
I know it's not that easy to get, but some kind of target should be set to keep them concentrate in the game.
And it will not bring the result in a over night, but may bring the result some day I hope.
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Old August 25, 2004, 07:16 AM
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If we can manage to stay above all emotions and look with utmost professionalism for a captain, we can easily rule out Mahmud.
Well, the selectors or whoever is in charge, isnt considering mahmud as captain just coz everyone feels pity on him. Atleast i dont think so. His records dont say he is not a good performer. he has good experince in England. Everyone has high respect for him ( i mean everyone in the team, not on this board). So, why shudnt he be chosen as captain?. and what r ur reasons for "easily ruling him out"?
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Old August 25, 2004, 07:25 AM
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Finally, this will not be the only time we'd face such dillema. If history is of any indication, we will have our regular captain not playing in a match or two for one reason or the other. Do the BCB guys have to scratch their heads and pull whatever hairs left on there every time that happens? We need to think twice before breaking an established protocol once it is made. If we break the protocol now, make no mistake, it will be broken many times. But if we set a professional example now, it wouldn't be easy to break day after tomorrow.
Nice analytical presentation.

Following the policy, procedure, and precedence help to avoid much confusion. And decision seems pragmatic when its covers a long term period.
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Old August 25, 2004, 10:39 AM
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and what r ur reasons for "easily ruling him out"?
He just doesn't make it to the 1st eleven in ALL of the matches. He is very useful, depending on a number of situation though.

"exemplary" performer? Honestly, there is none.

Finally, yes Rajin had bad forms. But he showed improvements. Also we have to consider the fact that he was made (forced?) to open where he is not used to. He was clearly uncomfortable there which might have compounded his performance.

I didn't go for a break down of the target simply because I was just trying to concentrate on the captaincy issue with the most relevant factors only.

Thank you.
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Old August 25, 2004, 11:45 AM
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well..its all settled now. Rajin is the captain. best of luck to him..hope he returns to form. congrats to u chinaman bhai.
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