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Old September 17, 2004, 10:28 AM
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Default How much do the coaches make?

Does any one know how much these coaches make in Bangladesh. I am talking about the non-national coaches. And what is the prospect in Bangladesh of some one with level x coaching certificate?
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Old September 17, 2004, 01:09 PM
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i think sarwar imran makes around 30,000 per month (from the board that is). as for the non-national coaches, i don't think they're very well paid, but there might be a good prospect for coaches once this generation of cricketers retire and take up coaching as a career.
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Old September 17, 2004, 04:22 PM
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Just guessing:
DW must be more than $200,000.00 per anum.
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Old September 17, 2004, 05:13 PM
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the coaches earn 'Dhaal and baat' compared to what football players are earning...and personally i think cricket is becoming more interesting that football.
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Old September 17, 2004, 06:56 PM
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I seem to recall a news item where Dav's salaray was in the 100K range. As benchmark Dudhia's salary is $80K.
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Old September 17, 2004, 07:22 PM
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I remember, Dav makes US$8000 per month while McInnes gets US$5000 per month.
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Old September 17, 2004, 07:30 PM
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the coaches earn 'Dhaal and baat' compared to what football players are earning...and personally i think cricket is becoming more interesting that football.
exactly................football hochhe pura borolokder khela. look what beckham earns and flintoff or trescothick or whatever. pura akash patal....kono tulonai nai.
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Old September 18, 2004, 04:16 AM
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It is really low paid job.

Please don't take it otherwise my wife as well as brother (younger than me) makes more than that. None of them are cricketer.

Coach, crickters should make much more than that, then only they will get more responsibility and commitment. Low paid job, probably one of the reasons of the failure of BD cricket.

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I seem to recall a news item where Dav's salaray was in the 100K range. As benchmark Dudhia's salary is $80K.
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Old September 18, 2004, 04:30 AM
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It is really low paid job.

Please don't take it otherwise my wife as well as brother (younger than me) makes more than that. None of them are cricketer.

Coach, crickters should make much more than that, then only they will get more responsibility and commitment. Low paid job, probably one of the reasons of the failure of BD cricket.

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I seem to recall a news item where Dav's salaray was in the 100K range. As benchmark Dudhia's salary is $80K.

You call that a low paid job??? By what standard? You or your family may be born with a silver spoon in your mouth, but a six figure salary for a cricket coach for a 3rd world country sounds reasonable enough to me, even by international standards. I am sorry but I don't know how NOT to take it otherwise. I find your comparison somewhat disturbing.

I also don't agree with having a high-paid coach being a prerequisite for commitment and responsibility. While financial incentives may help, motivation and responsibility are not something money alone can buy. I highly doubt Sandwip Patel (Kenya's coach) was paid as much as Dav Whatmore. Yet the Kenyans performed superbly. You might want to call it a fluke or whatever, but I simply don't buy your logic.
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Old September 18, 2004, 04:40 AM
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Greenidge earned $ 50k per annum. It was increased from $ 30k after the ICC tournament in Malaysia.

The going rate world-wide is not that high. I am sure Gus Logie earned far less than Dav.

Maybe , that's why he comes with the same optimistic bull**** after every debacle. His alternative employment would pay substantially less. The cricket market is really lucrative only in India. As the No.1 sport for the middle-classes and with 200m of them. A very large captive TV audience even with third world purchasing power.
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Old September 18, 2004, 04:48 AM
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Maybe , that's why he comes with the same optimistic bull**** after every debacle. His alternative employment would pay substantially less.
Very interesting point. Hmm, I guess I am at times biased while judging his performance as a coach because I've been a Dav fan ever since SL won the world cup. But then, we are a tough bunch to coach. Coaching BD is much more challenging than coaching SL. I still like to believe his optimistic words, and not just because it gives me a glimmer of hope as a fan to have a high profile coach taking care of us. But then, you do raise a good point there. Only time will tell I guess.
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Old September 18, 2004, 08:23 AM
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Default Ash, Nafees should make 100k

Carte Blanche, I found that your postings are always well judged and very rational. Sorry to know that my comparison is disturbing to you. I compare it because people around me who have health profession degree get starting 100k to 120 k and go for million dollars within couple of years. They are really young too.

Amway, my points is that sportsmen makes lot of money than any other profession. For example, young guy who playes university level basket ball or other sports in any north American university makes huge amount of money. Then, why not our cricketing community? For the long run, if cricket is highly paid job the talented kids will come in this path. I will be more than happy if player like Ash, Nafees and other make at least 100k (USD).

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It is really low paid job.

Coach, crickters should make much more than that, then only they will get more responsibility and commitment. Low paid job, probably one of the reasons of the failure of BD cricket.

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I seem to recall a news item where Dav's salaray was in the 100K range. As benchmark Dudhia's salary is $80K.

You call that a low paid job??? By what standard? You or your family may be born with a silver spoon in your mouth, but a six figure salary for a cricket coach for a 3rd world country sounds reasonable enough to me, even by international standards. I am sorry but I don't know how NOT to take it otherwise. I find your comparison somewhat disturbing.

I also don't agree with having a high-paid coach being a prerequisite for commitment and responsibility. While financial incentives may help, motivation and responsibility are not something money alone can buy. I highly doubt Sandwip Patel (Kenya's coach) was paid as much as Dav Whatmore. Yet the Kenyans performed superbly. You might want to call it a fluke or whatever, but I simply don't buy your logic.
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Old September 18, 2004, 08:45 AM
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I compare it because people around me who have health profession degree get starting 100k to 120 k and go for million dollars within couple of years. They are really young too.
Erm, Sorry to shove my nose here. Here in England a highly qualified specialist doc (NHS) get starting £50-£65K p.a. i.e. 80-100k USD which is almost on per with more social democratic countries like Norway, Sweden etc (before EU common policy). But most of those 'specialist docs' are in their 40's atleast as they have to sort out their MRCS, FRCS blah blah blah. A normal MBBS get starting about £17-£20K.

I always thought European contries spend more money on health sector than Americans. 'Cause we're not ruthless capitalist, infact we've a human face. I seem to remember poverty ridden outskirt NY. Ah, Americans!

Edited on, September 18, 2004, 2:18 PM GMT, by Zephaniah.
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Old September 18, 2004, 09:01 AM
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Ibrahim, I agree with you. They do make less by US standard. Otherwise, it's reasonably good. Like someone mentioned, cricket doesn't generate that much money....

Now you should be comparing Bangladeshi doctors' salary w/ Bangladeshi sports coach Hopefully that will make much sense.
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Old September 18, 2004, 12:35 PM
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The BD national players should be earning more than what our club level cricketers earn. That should be the standard.

If you compare US's basket ball/base ball players' salary with the Bangladeshi cricketers, then you have to compare the successes rates between those two category of players too. After all, doesn't more success brings more money?
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Old September 18, 2004, 12:50 PM
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When it comes to earning, I wouldn’t use basketball or baseball or even football in the same sentence as how much cricketer earn. All three sports that that I have mentioned their salary is simply outrageous. Maybe just one basketball players earn more than all cricketers combine together.
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Old September 18, 2004, 01:05 PM
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At the end of the day it is what the market is prepared to pay for you is what you will get.

Recently, Veiera of Arsenal was almost signing for Real Madrid when a last-minute glitch derailed the negotiations. It transpired that Veiera was not going to be amongst the main "Galacticos" i.e like Ronaldo, Zidane, Beckham etc. He was not best pleased.

Too many people right now, Veiera is a far more influential player currently than Beckham or maybe, even Zidane. But he does not sell as many shirts ! Real got back almost all their Beckham investment from a single Far East trip. The Japanese are simply Beckham [and Owen ] crazy for whatever reason. Having a failed pop star wife presumably helps !

In the sub-continent you may have noticed more advertisement time was taken up by Tendulkar than even Shahrukh Khan. Not so recently. In my last two trips I have noticed Dravid is now No.1 followed closely by Irfan Pathan ! Double centuries do talk and pay !! Irfan probably gets the teen market. I will have to ask my nieces for the latest betting news.
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Old September 19, 2004, 12:21 AM
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When it comes to earning, I wouldn’t use basketball or baseball or even football in the same sentence as how much cricketer earn. All three sports that that I have mentioned their salary is simply outrageous. Maybe just one basketball players earn more than all cricketers combine together.

yeap..............akta nba player hoite parle ar dekha lage na. pura life set...
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Old September 19, 2004, 01:04 AM
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Australian cricketers earn a lot of money. I think Shane Warne gets 500K a year. What are the Bangladeshi player salaries. Hopefully not that much.
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Old September 19, 2004, 07:35 AM
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Well as far as I remember , Dav doesnt have to spend a single taka while in Bangladesh.
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Old September 19, 2004, 10:46 PM
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wild speculation is always fun. a few comments on this thread sounded a bit off (sorry can't be bothered to get quote and color correct for this one)

1. US college basketball players will be shown the door if they accepted money. It's against the rules. Maybe Ibrahim meant NBA players? NBA or european football salaries should not be compared to BD cricketer/coach salaries because the economics are not the same, right?

2. Canadian doctors go from 100-120K in the first year to a million in 2 years? That sounds like a bit too much for 2 years. And if they are young, how young? Certain specialties (like cardiac surgeons) can do that but those people spend half their adult lives in training. I think it's a bit of a frivolous comment frankly (you guys know which one if you read the thread). I'm intimate with what doctors make and where their total business model needs to be before they make anywhere close to a million bucks. If it were this easy we would all study medicine and move to Canada.

And besides, what exactly is the correlation between a medical professional in North American and the BD cricket coach?

3. Dav and other foreign coaches may get tax breaks, housing allowances, etc on top of their salaries. But I am sure they have spent more than a "single taka" while in BD. So this unfortuntaley sounds like a flippant comment as well. And the salary issue has nothing to do with how well the team is doing.

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Old September 22, 2004, 08:59 AM
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someone already posted a response about the 'us college players' comment

Edited on, September 22, 2004, 2:01 PM GMT, by bhobishshot.

Edited on, September 22, 2004, 2:01 PM GMT, by bhobishshot.
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Old September 22, 2004, 09:40 AM
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I feel like I should explain why I was asking about the salaries of the coaches. It was not to judge the teams performance based on the salary of the coach. I was more interested in the prospect of a coach in Bangladesh. I have read comments from many involved with Bangladesh cricket that there are not a lot of qualified coaches in the country. if someone who has a lot of passion for Bangladesh cricket and its development wanted to contribute to the development of the game in Bangladesh, coaching would be one way of doing it. Occasionally, this thought has crossed my mind and the first question that came to mind was how much would a coach make? Other questions that I came accross was:

Can some one like me who does not have any professional cricket experience become a coach?
What does it take to become a level 1,2,.. (I don't know how many levels there are) coach?
What is the current demand for level 1,2,.. coaches in BD?

Reading some of the comments about how much Sarwar Imran (if I am not mistaken, he would be the highest paying Bangladeshi coach) makes, I don't think I am ready to quit my job just yet. But, who knows, if miracle happens, and I become a millionaire, I could give it a serious thought. Or, may be someone, studying MBA or Computer Science in Australia or England, will suddenly be overwhelmed by passion for cricket in Bangladesh and switch their major and go for a coaching training program. Better yet, some well stablished Bangladeshi professional in some country might say: you know what, I know this place where I can take this level x training course in weekend or night. I don't have to quit my job. I am gonna try it out and see if I could make a difference. I don't know about you guys, but I have always felt that there was a desire in my heart to go back to Bangladesh and do something that will have a positive impact. And how good that would be if that was CRICKET!! ... (the outlook reminder chimes and he comes back to reality) Damn, I am late for the meeting...
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Old September 22, 2004, 11:44 AM
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I don't know if anyone's interested - Gordon Greenidge used to be paid 3 Lacs Taka in the beginning for coaching Bangladesh, which probably ended at 5 Lacs by the time Greenidge's coaching tenure for BD was over.
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Oh - my source is some of old issues of Kriralok.
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