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Old October 10, 2004, 03:32 PM
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Default \'Make or break\' home season: Ali Asghar

'Make or break' home season for Bangladesh

Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) president Ali Asghar has warned that the coming home series' against New Zealand, India and Zimbabwe will be acid tests for the Tigers.

Asghar expressed his views at a meeting where chief selector Faruque Ahmed, coach Dav Whatmore, team operations manager MA Latif Khan, BCB advisor and media committee chairman Reazuddin Al Mamun, captain Habibul Bashar and his deputy Rajin Saleh were present.


"The team's think-tank was told that it was time to give back something to the nation especially since there is a negative campaign going on against Bangladesh internationally. The meeting was arranged to make them realise the seriousness of the situation and how significant the home season is for the team," said Mamun over telephone after the meeting.


Mamun also revealed that coach Dav Whatmore sought some more time for making a mark in international level.


"We identified ODI tournaments as our main problem area and the team management was asked to sort out why we there has been collapses," said Mamun who added that the Board was satisfied with Whatmore's explanation for the failures.


Mamun also disclosed that Saleh, who had led the team in the recently concluded ICC Champions Trophy in England in absence of the injured Bashar, had told the meeting that he found commitment missing in his batsmen during the tournament.

http://thedailystar.net/2004/10/11/d41011040327.htm

Edited on, October 10, 2004, 8:33 PM GMT, by Sam.
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Old October 10, 2004, 08:58 PM
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Dissapointing to seee the commitment missing during the CT. Maybe Bashar is the link to a great series. I hope so. Might just be a coincidence that he is Bangladesh's best ever batsmen as well.
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Old October 10, 2004, 09:28 PM
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well I am glad Lobi has spelt it out for the team. I am confident the team will respond with all their might and all their heart. They hopefully realise that their own livelihood is also on the line. If nothing else that should motivate them! The practise match should give us a good indication about the fight that our boys will be ready to put up.
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Old October 11, 2004, 01:07 PM
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well I am glad Lobi has spelt it out for the team. I am confident the team will respond with all their might and all their heart. They hopefully realise that their own livelihood is also on the line. If nothing else that should motivate them! The practise match should give us a good indication about the fight that our boys will be ready to put up.

Ya, me too.
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Old October 11, 2004, 03:10 PM
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I appreciate the time chosen for this "do or die" reaction by the top cricket adminisrtators.
The focus was made on lack of commitment, what is really true.
Hopefully, cricketers will play cricket this time keeping in mind their commitments to the nation and nation's expectation from them.
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Old October 11, 2004, 03:24 PM
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Hope it does'nt backfire. I don't mind behind the scenes talk to the boys but all these statement in front of the press really does not do anything. BCB always be behind the players. lack of commitment should have been tackled earlier instaed of a few weeks before the tour. So sorry but I feel it is a knee jerk reaction. I want to see the team back to Dave's original plan that is step by step individual improvements. Home in on the areas where individuals faltered.
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Old October 11, 2004, 09:34 PM
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maybe they did do some behind the scenes talking before...i mean you're not supposed to know if it's behind the scenes right?
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Old October 11, 2004, 09:46 PM
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when did BD players' showed committment last time after 1997 world cup? and few test matches(e.g. Pak, Aus)....May be they were just playing to keep their positions intact..after it has been done who cares about the team!!!
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Old October 12, 2004, 03:00 AM
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it was just clikced in my mind. there are lot of reasons to worry, but certainly bangladesh never down to that conditions of some elite nations played recently......may be im finding ways to make excuses!!!!

http://ind.cricinfo.com/link_to_data...15OCT2002.html
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Old October 12, 2004, 03:42 AM
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Thnx sunil, I hope and pray, that we will never down to that extend. Problem is when an elite cricket nation goes down it is an occurance, but when minnows goes down, it is their performance.
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Old October 12, 2004, 05:18 AM
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It's a good sign that BCB has arranged such a meeting to find out the
problems and solutions for our poor performance.
But in my opinion, it will not be helpful if the meeting just end as a discussion.
Because the meeting seemed like a discussion and everybody had his own opinion,
which had not come to a conclusion having everyone's agreement
and common understanding ( Players and Management ).
If not, then problems and solutions will mean different to different people
and will be hard to gain any improvement.

I understand that it will be unrealistic to expect the solution and outcome soon,
but there must be some problems and solutions, like concentration, commitment etc.
which could be taken as common understanding and do some home work before coming series.
Otherwise we have to depend on every players individual understanding and action.
Hope there will be more information regarding this article somewhere.
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Old October 12, 2004, 06:05 AM
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The commitment is clear, clear to everybody, it's clear right from the players to the cheering folk in the stadium.
This meeting was an unscreened communication between the top decision makers and the real performers. So, I believe it was not a meeting to agree with, rather it was a meeting to convey some sort of 'message' to the performers and an assurance to the top administration.
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Old October 12, 2004, 06:28 AM
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This meeting was an unscreened communication between the top decision makers and the real performers. So, I believe it was not a meeting to agree with, rather it was a meeting to convey some sort of 'message' to the performers and an assurance to the top administration.
I feel better now. Thank's for making it clear.
So we can expect some outcome in coming series now.
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Old October 13, 2004, 01:51 AM
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Thanx vv_sunil that is great you have reminded me of a great couple of days by Australia. I havent seen Sultanzz comment on that game yet. No boasting of Pakistan for that.
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Thanx vv_sunil that is great you have reminded me of a great couple of days by Australia. I havent seen Sultanzz comment on that game yet. No boasting of Pakistan for that.
i was thinking that Sultanzz was showing interest in all areas impartially, but realised later that he want to propagate his nations achievements in bangla cricket forum.

i think he will not be back in this forum as he got warning from chinaman

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Old October 13, 2004, 04:07 AM
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Don't feel so good, we've had our shares in the mud, too.

Against the nation that we're playing just a week from now:

77 all out vs NZ during ICC Champions Trophy 2002 in SL
116 vs NZ during 1999 world cup in ENG
Over 300 runs for NZ against our bowling during 1990 Australasia Cup

Against all other teams:

76 all out vs IND during TVS Cup 2003 in Dhaka BNS
76 all out vs SL during 2002 in SL
The Chaminda Vaas Hat-trick during world cup 2003 in SA
87 all out vs Pakistan during 2000 Asia Cup in Dhaka BNS

NOTE, some of those pretty low scores are scored by us AT OUR OWN HOME GROUND - AT THE BNS.
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Old October 13, 2004, 04:09 AM
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87 all out vs WI in 1st test during 2002 in Dhaka (BNS)
90 all out vs SL in SL during 2001 Asian Test Championship
91 all out vs IND inaugural test 2000 in Dhaka (BNS)
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Old October 13, 2004, 05:40 AM
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Here is another interesting game... look at the scores by both teams!
India vs. NZ, 2002/3
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Old October 13, 2004, 06:09 AM
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the interesting part in aus v/s pak match is pakistan failed to score three digit figure in both innings, managed 59 as highest, finished the match within 2 days,

bangladesh never had such a shameful defeat

cool!!!!!!!!
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Old October 13, 2004, 06:16 AM
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crickethorizon that is a very interesting game. The wicket must have just been coming good by the 4th day. odd match.
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Old October 13, 2004, 12:29 PM
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Mamun also disclosed that Saleh, who had led the team in the recently concluded ICC Champions Trophy in England in absence of the injured Bashar, had told the meeting that he found commitment missing in his batsmen during the tournament.

Who is he referring to?

Cannot be Rajin.
Cannot be Bashar, Alok or Hannan as they were not in the team.
Cannot be Aftab or Nafees as they were new members and just joined the team.
Cannot be Rafique, Nazmul, Tapash as they are mainly bowler.
Cannot be Chacha as he may have physical limitation but I doubt he lacks commitment.


That leads to ...
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Old October 14, 2004, 04:01 AM
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Javed Omar, Ash
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Old October 14, 2004, 04:39 AM
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Well it definitely can't be Javed Omar..Hez one guy who'd rather give his life away than his wicket....Trust me...I know him personally....
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Old October 14, 2004, 06:23 AM
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May be it's just in general he told not pointing to anybody.
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Old October 14, 2004, 09:51 AM
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Rajin said it out of inexperience actually..

Even if the captain does feel lack of commitment in his players.. he cant really express that to the press like this.
Rajin, being so young, couldnt really hold his patience I think.. and said something he probably shouldnt have said considering the moral breakdown it might cause for the team.
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